Hull KR beat Leeds and what do we get? Hull FC fans argueing with Leeds fans. I love RL

When we beat KR in the cup final last year, Hull FC fans celebrated the result more than any victory of theirs they've had in the last 10 years......it was truely sad how much they celebrated as if they actually achieved something.

Yep, also conditioners aren't just the guys who look after the gyms or tell the players to do a few more laps anymore either. The lead conditioner at a club is an integral part of the coaching team and is effectively an assistant coach since conditioning affects every aspect of training.

Oh hang on I did find it......



Let's see you backtrack out of that bullsh*t "in the loop" info that you dropped on us.

You hear rumours just like plenty of us.....the major difference is that you're just more gullible to believe every single one you hear and post it in your desperate need to look 'in the know'.

Where is Joe Westerman playing?

I would suggest most of what happens at Leeds is posted on here well before it happens - Falloon coming was posted on here a good 2 months before the club said anything.

I am glad you pulled that up, I wanted you to be the one just to prove my point exactly.

So I never said Clark needed Westerman, like you posted. I said it clearly what it was, and what happened, and what is happening. We pulled out of a deal for both Clark and Westerman. Clark wanted to be back over here, and hence his desire to make the move to Leeds, and why Wire were a willing seller. We didn't see it through and Wire making other arrangements. Westerman was told the deal was done with Leeds, but Leeds wouldn't agree Hulls fee. My exact post at the time was (and before the papers and others) was that Leeds had gone back on the deal as they believe the Burgess deal is a goer. The same Burgess confirmed we were still in for by our CEO weeks after. I also said at the time on a post after the one you pulled up, as people got stupid (like you) that the chauffeur line was taken too literally. Wire paid the full fee for Westerman has it totally fit for them, in that Clark had a lift from his mate, and could locate where he wanted. I made it clear on that second post that of course they didn't just sign for a lift.

Please don't tell us you do know but keep quite. For gods sake you have only been going during the bandwagon days, and even then you seem to attend no more than a third of games. You know nothing outside of the club and below the professional game. Only last year you tried to make out you knew what Morgsn Smith was on, got a bit loose there with those lips, but as usual was totally wrong. Then you had the cheek to tell us Ward had a bad game at Hull KR last year, just because I said he was very good, because you didn't hear his name on the radio.

For your information, talking about things is not loose lips. Rugby League unlike football, is a community sport. And involving yourself in community clubs, something I doubt you have ever been involved in, conversations always take place whilst a lot of time is spent there. I personally, regardless of you, will continue to repeat what is discussed, unless anyone tells me specifically not to. And for your information I have been told specifically not to on two current dels for next year, but they dont involve Leeds. However, there are people who post on here who are a lot closer to any info than the likes of me,

Your complete lack of been in any loop sees you have a go at people continuously. You have already been picked up this year on Frosties. You deflect this in to then accusing two posters of been the same. You are not on a good run, with your barrel of excuses deteriating rapidly. If I were you I would keep to your own advice, and keep quite and a little less presence. Stop the jealous bitching all the time and maybe you can learn something, and who knows pretend you are in a loop instead.

Of course this constant deflection does work to your advantage in terms of the current plight of the club, which is far more important than your little bitch rants all the time. If you took some time to move away from the end of last season, and start to concentrate on what has been happening for weeks now in the current season, someone might actually take you seriously.

As you always want the last word, I have no doubt you will want to respond, but can you do it to PM so it does not deflect from what the board is about, and bore everyone with the bitching. I will even let you have that last word, promise.

So.......other than the above its all going rather well

This forum's heading in the same direction as the first team at the minute. It's either petty squabbling like the above, the usual troll accounts that recycle the same old crap over and over or posts like 'X will never make a Super League player, I've said it all along'. There's zero interesting discussion.

What other topics do you think need to be discussed that aren't getting discussed?

This is nothing. There's been a civil war ongoing between the "boo boys" and the "apologists" for years on the Hull forum, every other post is either an insult or someone trying to bait someone else. There does seem to be a bit of a ceasefire currently though.

Ah well it's the same here, winning or losing. At least we have consistency

I would like to point out that to be a supporter of a club you don't have to have supported since you were 6 years old, been born or live in the correct post code or any other such as stupid criteria. All are welcome to support and voice their opinions, just because you have been supporting for a century doesn't make your opinion any more valid than anyone elses.
We complain that RL isn't growing and due to some of the attitudes I see on hear it comes as no surprise.
Some of our more senior supporters need to grow up and stop acting like spoilt brats

[uTranslation[/u: I'm a SL-era Rhinos fan, I'm young and I'm not from LS6.

Think you might be wrong on at least one of those statements (although that might depend on how you define 'young')

born and bred in Leeds, lived in Leeds all my life (50) and supported Leeds through thin and thinner since being 12 years old

I'm a SL-era Rhinos fan, I'm not from LS6 neither do I live there. I pay my money and get to as many Rhino's games as I can. As LeedsLurch mentioned, I feel I'm entitled to an opinion and it shouldn't make my opinion any less valued.

Cripes!

Folk getting all tetchy and defensive on here.

I blame Leeds current dire performances and ladder position for that.

I'll make sure I utilise a smiley wink or two next time

I thought we were bad when we lost Briers, Morley & Carvell at the end of 2013, but this Leeds side is something else! At least you'll get a Leeds v Bradford match this year.

Sandow's not looking like such a "waste of money" for us now is he?

The Falloon signing.....after people said we were signing Haughton or Clark or Farah or McIlorum or Lunt or several other hookers who were mentioned on here before Falloon's name popped up, yeah getting it right at the 10th attempt is really good evidence of knowledge

..........and I think we all knew for a while Falloon was coming providing the outcome of his drugs issue back in Australia as he was the only hooker left at that time not signed up for next year.

at least we have several SL titles to console ourselves with

You made a BS claim about Westerman giving Clark lifts over to Warrington. You meant it and it was shown up to be nonsense and since have backtrack claiming you didn't really mean it. You did mean it you just got shown up for the BS that it was and that's always your excuse when one of your rumours gets shown up....."oh I didn't mean that"



I love the feeble attempt to portray me as a SL era glory bandwagon fan......no I didn't follow the club pre SL but considering I was only born in the late 80's I'm not sure how I can be faulted for not supporting earlier than 1997.

How was I picked up on Frosties? He made claims that I said wouldn't happen and low and behold they didn't happen yet and just like your chaffeuer nonsense you still try and claim otherwise.

You think I'm wrong about what Morgan Smith was offered, maybe I am maybe I'm not. Unlike yours and Frosties claims which got shown up for being clearly wrong I've not seen anything to say I was incorrect apart from you disagreeing with it which was inevitable as you're obsessed with criticising the club in your desperation to look in the know. You constantly criticised them about how they handled the various Hardaker incidents and you claimed the club apologised to him and agreed the treated him harshly for his World Cup exit......they did no such thing. Your mate in the Hardaker camp clearly only gives you Hardaker's version of events which makes him look hard done by and they never told you he got into a fight with a Carnegie player on his night out and the club have no problem with how they punished him.

As pointed out before regarding the Ward issue, I never said he had a bad game, I suggested that you exaggerated his performance because he's one of your favourites and slagged off McGuire's whose one of your usual targets even though most agreed McGuire had a very good game.

Again if you want to believe that i don't know anything about the club or the game below the professional level without knowing me then so be it.....all that shows is just how desperate you are to be Mr In the Loop and how defensive you are when challenged about it

I never said Falloon was coming, I don't ever recall seeing McIlorum as a potential target, only a fool would believe Farah was anything more than wishful thinking, same goes for Lunt. Only one who was mentioned seriously was Haughton. Most think Clark was for 2017 - given the relative standards of the two sides I an not sure Clark would be so keen on coming to Leeds now.

The Kiwi games was known long before the club announced it was happening - typical of what gets posted on here.

The only thing that really came as a surprise was Sinfield going to union - that came right out of the blue.

I repeat where is Westerman playing? Given Clark is banned from driving and Western lives near him do you think there is a good chance they are travelling together? Whilst not a primary consideration when signing Westerman it will have been a bonus that he could provide a taxi service for Clark.

It is not a secret that Hardaker has some issues off the field - the club need to address these otherwise the half a yard of pace he has lost will be a yard and half and what could have been a glittering career will turn to . I would suggest Gotcha has a far greater inside track on what is going on with Zac than virtually anyone else on here.

The Ward thing - if I were you I would not be bringing that up - you already looked daft when suggesting you knew more about the game listening to the radio than somebody who actually attended the game. How can you know if an exaggeration took place - perhaps the person/publication you were relying for your info. exaggerated McGuire's performance?

Where do you think Clark is living?



I said no such thing.



I couldn't know, that's why i asked the question.



I went off several people who posted beforehand who all said McGuire had a very good game. Gotcha said he was very poor and you yourself know better than anyone being a McGuire fan that Gotcha loves to shoot down his performances when most agree McGuire had a good game.

And this is my exact point with you. You read something and it is black and white, you have absolutely no idea around it, but you choose to go with what was read.

This is exactly what I said, Clark wanted to be back over here, and why he wanted to move clubs. He couldn't stay over here because of his driving ban. When Westerman signed for Warrington this gave him the option to spend the time he wanted over this side, as Westerman could and is taking him in. His chauffeur if you want to read it like that.

It really isn't hard, but you persist in this petty jealousy because others know something you don't. None of us know everything going on, but people share things purely for discussion on a message board. Only you seem to take offence. Yet you get so defensive that you actually back up people's argument.

Anyway, I did say to keep to PM to not bore others, so will leave at that.