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| we haven't got 2 good centres why keep a bad one
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"we haven't got 2 good centres why keep a bad one'"
Is there anything or anyone you do like at this club?
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| I'd rather have George Williams as 2nd marquee player than Hurrell. We've got Newman and Liam Sutcliffe for centres next season, plus Broadbent. Alex Sutcliffe should be resigned too. Thanks for the memories Konrad, but if he doesn't accept a non marquee contract, then he can sign for promoted Championship team.
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| Quote ="Toosmooth"I'd rather have George Williams as 2nd marquee player than Hurrell. We've got Newman and Liam Sutcliffe for centres next season, plus Broadbent. Alex Sutcliffe should be resigned too. Thanks for the memories Konrad, but if he doesn't accept a non marquee contract, then he can sign for promoted Championship team.'"
A Sutcliffe will be a Cas player and Agar has said we’ve little chance of signing Williams. I wouldn’t be re signing Hurrell on Marquee wages but would on reduced terms, I doubt the club see him as marquee either which is why he hasn’t resigned as yet.
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| Quote ="christopher"Is there anything or anyone you do like at this club?'" mik /prior/ tetevano
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| Newman's situation will actually help Hurrel's negotiation!
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| George Williams would be great but it isn’t going to happen. Due to his background he only takes up £75k of Wigan’s cap and they will sort this year one way or another. Next year they don’t really have a problem. As for us as much as I like Harrell he’s o longer quality and cannot defend. It’s time to move on. Trueman is an option or a quality overseas player from down under………. I do not know who but that’s the clubs responsibility. As for centres we have a group of young players who will improve. We need to stick with them as they learn their trade. As for fullback it depends on how the club view Walkers progress. He’s always been injury prone due to his size and the way he plays so we need cover. Personally I believe Sutty can do a job there albeit many will disagree. Also need cover at 7 unless Mclelland fills that gap moving forward. Forwards look good but must depend on who stays at year end and obvious issues with hookers.
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| I didn't mind Sutcliffe as replacement full back, but that was before Myler. Centre looks his best position now, so yeah, we shouldn't need Hurrell when Newman is back.
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| Quote ="Toosmooth"I didn't mind Sutcliffe as replacement full back, but that was before Myler. Centre looks his best position now, so yeah, we shouldn't need Hurrell when Newman is back.'"
Don't think Sutty is a full back for the same reasons he's not a half. Good pair of hands and timing of a pass so important in that role, not to mention pace. He's a centre or bust for me. Will be interesting to see him at centre because it's about time the club and the player found out how good he is in preferred position. Far from convinced to be honest, but I know a lot will disagree.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Don't think Sutty is a full back for the same reasons he's not a half. Good pair of hands and timing of a pass so important in that role, not to mention pace. He's a centre or bust for me. Will be interesting to see him at centre because it's about time the club and the player found out how good he is in preferred position. Far from convinced to be honest, but I know a lot will disagree.'"
Sutty looked class in halves from highlights last night. Has all the skills.....
We just don't see it enough....
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| Sutty had a good game last night as did most of the 17, was one of those games where most things tried stuck. Trying to be realistic, we will have many more where it doesn't stick and people on here will be calling for players and coaches heads on a stick. It's all part of being a rhino supporter
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| Quote ="Shabino"Sutty looked class in halves from highlights last night. Has all the skills.....
We just don't see it enough....'"
Sutty is not a half and never will be. I think the coaching staff and the player share that opinion. Hopefully Lui or McLelland are back before long and we can have a proper look at him in the centre.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Sutty is not a half and never will be. I think the coaching staff and the player share that opinion. Hopefully Lui or McLelland are back before long and we can have a proper look at him in the centre.'" would rather have sutty than mclelland and poss than a half fit lui
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"would rather have sutty than mclelland and poss than a half fit lui'"
That's just what I was thinking. Makes little sense putting fully fit Lui back in ahead of Sutty.....
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| Quote ="Shabino"That's just what I was thinking. Makes little sense putting fully fit Lui back in ahead of Sutty.....'" he has been a bit of a naughty boy since the injury of 2015 . lost natural speed , hopefully can back up against sts
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| Quote ="Shabino"That's just what I was thinking. Makes little sense putting fully fit Lui back in ahead of Sutty.....'"
It makes no sense putting a fully fit Lui back in ahead of Lui? I suppose not if the intention is to lose more games than you win.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"It makes no sense putting a fully fit Lui back in ahead of Lui? I suppose not if the intention is to lose more games than you win.'" i think he said sutty rather than lui lui and certainly not mclelland you suggested
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"i think he said sutty rather than lui lui and certainly not mclelland you suggested'"
I see your plan now. Keep the half backs out of the halves. Brilliant! Will certainly give you plenty to moan about.
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| Quote ="Shabino"That's just what I was thinking. Makes little sense putting fully fit Lui back in ahead of Sutty.....'" That's the first time Suttcliffe has played well at 6 in ages. Unless he keeps that form Lui will be back at 6 and Sutcliffe back at centre.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"I see your plan now. Keep the half backs out of the halves. Brilliant! Will certainly give you plenty to moan about.'"
Lui offers zilch more than Sutty in the halves and is leaving end of year. Why not jeep a player we are retaining and is playing well?
We don't need Sutty in centres. His talents are not fully utilised there either.....
The kid just needs Longy or someone to put an arm around him, tell him he's a bloody good half back if he applies himself and plays with freedom.
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| Whether centre or stand off, he needs players running good lines. He then needs to pass to them. Otherwise he just crabs and steals space.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Whether centre or stand off, he needs players running good lines. He then needs to pass to them. Otherwise he just crabs and steals space.'"
He had options and runners last night, that was the difference. I don't agree he just crabs though, he's actually one of our best players at taking line on, and has a pretty decent try scoring record. He's also a good kicker when playing with confidence......
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| Quote ="Shabino"Lui offers zilch more than Sutty in the halves and is leaving end of year. Why not jeep a player we are retaining and is playing well?
We don't need Sutty in centres. His talents are not fully utilised there either.....
The kid just needs Longy or someone to put an arm around him, tell him he's a bloody good half back if he applies himself and plays with freedom.'" Hopefully we will be signing a 6 and Sutty can then compete for a centre place. Lui has a much better passing game that Sutty. Sutty played very well last night but as I said earlier that was his best performance at 6 in ages. He is a far better centre than stand off. He been played at 6 loads of times with hardly any real success. I find it bizarre after one good performance there you think 6 is his best position.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"I see your plan now. Keep the half backs out of the halves. Brilliant! Will certainly give you plenty to moan about.'" you're the one knocking someone who's found their form
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| Quote ="doc-rhino"you're the one knocking someone who's found their form'"
Not knocking him. He played well last night, as did the rest. Just suggesting he gets a proper run in his best position, which is centre without a shadow of a doubt. On the other hand you are knocking Lui, who may not be a world beater, but is an accomplished six, and McLelland who is a young kid who has never had the chance to show his worth in anything like a full strength side.
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