That's pretty much how I saw it too.
I think Leeds were going sideways too often in attack and needed someone to straighten up and just take the ball in (or run a line)

No you're wrong, the reaction from the Wakefield fans was either to get a rise out of me or sour grapes. They certainly wouldn't go onto a forum and post about it, Trojan Horse says so.

aaah how ive missed sir oli from SLFs..... that guy is deluded and pretty mental......

Abolutely. Got sick of seeing Burrow crab along the line with nobody offering a decent direct run to offset it (still not sure Burrow would have passed however)



If not for the individual brilliance of Leeds' two centres I'm pretty sure Leeds would have lost against an equally hapless Wakefield. Who said SL standards are not slipping????

I enjoyed the trip up to Leeds and glad we didn't leave heading for the game much later: only just got a parking spot on my usual road and North stand tickets after assuming there would not be much of a crowd!! Whoops !

GH should pray to god(s) more often for good weather

I think we needed 2 points to keep our grip on 4th (3rd is more or less gone and I'd still rather finish 4th than 5th whatever sme might say) and we got them. Which was good.

Other than that, as others have said a lot of effort on show, but poor execution on attack. I actually don't think Wakey are a bad side this year, and have looked a threat in attack when I've seen them. I don't think they'll perform that badly going forward next week, so if we want another 2 points, we'll have to play better.

Wakie spent alot of their juice with their line speed in defence and it worked for the most part, Leeds couldn't bust them down the middle. So our poor execution was partly down to their workrate in defence and pushing us out wide.

I think you'll find that no other team appears interested in finishing 4th in SL. Some are in fact doing their level best to avoid finishing 4th at all costs... the Whipping Boy French Fancying SL Rabble immediately spring to mind. You'd assume they'd make it less obvious by not losing away at Salford but I guess they've learnt from Leeds regular season visit to their midden last season for inspiration.

Wakey struggled with ball retention.
You cant win too many SL games with 50-60 % completion rates !

Leeds completion rate was 64%, Wakeys was 63%

Richie Mathers knows all about that.

Its not his fault you know, it never is.

He didn't drop owt on Friday IIRC.

1. Zak Hardaker
2. Ben Jones-Bishop
4. Joel Moon
5. Ryan Hall
7. Rob Burrow
8. Kylie Leuluai
10. Jamie Peacock
12. Carl Ablett
13. Kevin Sinfield (c)
15. Brett Delaney
17. Ian Kirke
18. Chris Clarkson
21. Richard Moore
22. Jimmy Keinhorst
23. Brad Singleton
26. Liam Sutcliffe
27. Thomas Minns
30. Alex Foster
32. James Duckworth

Richard MATHERS
Peter FOX
Dean COLLIS
Lee SMITH
Ben COCKAYNE
Tim SMITH
Justin POORE
Paul AITON
Andy RALEIGH
Ali LAUITIITI
Danny KIRMOND
Danny WASHBROOK
Kyle AMOR
Oliver WILKES
Frankie MARIANO
Kyle TROUT
Reece LYNE
Matty WILDIE
Taulima TAUTAI

What's wrong with mcshane? Presume it will be sinny and sutcliffe in the halves this week then

He had a bad game, so he's been dropped. It's how this coach operates.....................with [isome[/i players.

Coach must've been rubbing his hands with Glee at the opportunity to put Burrow back to 9 and blunt our halves again.

Watch it. Gilder will be on soon to give a certain rebuke to those sort of comments. Nantwich suggested something similar the other day and was duely bitch slapped.

Surely though McShane is injured. The squad announced seems ridiculously backs heavy, and no specialist hooker. He certainly operates in some weird manner.

Nah.

Gareth is allowed to make comments like that, because I respect his opinions.

You, on the other hand...

So you are confirming yourself an hypocrite then Andy?

Nantwich makes the comments, its bitch slap time. Gareth makes the comments it's @r5e lick time.

Never mentioned me. I agree with Gareth's comments.

Hardacre
Bishop
Keinhorst
Moon
Hall
Sinfield
Sutcliffe
JP
Burrow
Singleton
Delaney
Ablett
Clarkson

Moore
Kirke
Foster
Minns/Duckworth

Can see McDermott shifting about during the game, moving Hardakre into the halves to whilst Sinfield has a breather or has a spell at hooker - BJB to full back - Minns/Duckworth to wing.

Actually what Nantwich suggested was that McDermott was deliberately making sure that Sutcliffe doesn't impress too much by telling him to hold back in games thus he'd have an easier time recalling a 6-time GF winning captain and record points scorer to the team.

McShane is dual-reg with Hunslet this weekend. Puzzling.

Why when we can have Kev & Rob interchanging at 9?

Seriously though, I'd prefer Sutcliffe & Rob in the 7s and Kev at hooker.

Oh and before I'm called a McDermott lover I too think it's a bad call to drop McShane.

Hmm - It's the right call in my opinion.

He's been average to dire pretty much all season - again, IMO.

He either passes to first receiver, runs and knocks on or attempts that little scoot over from dummy half on the last tackle which rarely works against the decent teams.

He's had a couple of games where I've thought, "OK, he's pushing on" and some of his kicking has been good. But for a starting number 9 these games are increasingly few and far between and sadly he's rarely backed them up.