lewis jones played more at stand off at the latter end of his career at wembley in 1957 it was lendil- stevenson .Colin Evans is a scrum half who rarely gets a mention he had some great seasons partnering Jones especially in the 1960-61 championship season. Jones -Evans was a great half back pairing

The best of Schoey's partners was undoubtedly Goulding. Didn't he win Player of the year in his sole season?

Gregory in the Blue and Amber (or red and Black) was absolute gash. Entat couldn't oust Holroyd and Ashton was number 7 whilst Schoey was in the centres IIRC.

Aye but when you look back with nostalgia and you remember the little barrel with thigh sized arms (always reminded me of popeye - in fact that might have been a (kind) nickname) who was always interviewed the family scrap yard where he worked the anger dissipates.

What were Goulding's stats with us?

And does anyone want to be the first to repeat the heresay about why he left the club?

Didn't it involve Leslie Ash or something?

I like it.

There's no way I would allege he got into a fight with Dougie at a training camp whilst drunk then trashed Dougie's car after he was disciplined, allegedly. No siree, I won't be alleging that.

Did he punch her in the mouth causing that horrific trout pout?

Good. I was being serious though. I'm interested to know how often he played for us.

He was one of the great wastes of talent in RL history.

Oh, I thought it was an ironic observation about the over reliance of statistics by supporters who visit this forum to form an opinion on a player's abilities. I gave you too much credit it might seem.

Why was his talent wasted? You should ask someone to produce you some stats on GB caps earned, finals played in and trophies won. Or you could utilise your own memory. That was me being ironic to emphaize the point I'd hoped you were making btw.

No, I think he could have acheived even more. Perhaps 'wasted' is too strong a word, it's just a shame that a lot of what he is remebered for isn't his rugby.

Got to say i was gutted when we lost Goulding and i too was disappointed in Gregory he just looked like a Blue'n'Amber space hopper to me!
I didn't mind Entat but i thought Holroyd was a good signing at the time he joined us.

Holroyd looked the real deal when he came on the scene, sadly never quite lived up to that promise. I allegedly have allegedly heard the alleged story of Mr Goulding allegedly doing Dougie's car in whilst it was allegedly parked infront of the North Stand, one alleged day. Allegedly.

Bobby Goulding's Leeds career:

Played 32 + 3, Tries 7, Goals 14, Drop Goals 5, Points 61

I always remember Goulding 'crossing' himself as he came out to make his 1st grade debut at Headingley (8th September 1991), the same day as Hanley made his Leeds debut. It's not something I could recall seeing any other player do at Headingley.

Pedant mode on: Ian Mackintosh was a great prospect but his career was ended by a serious leg injury of some kind. I can't remember what exactly but at some point in 81-82 he was bascially told to take at least a year off to give himself half a chance of recovery.

Conway was a sad 'might have been'. Great pace but sadly - as with a lot of Leeds halfbacks - no passing game to speak of.

Recalling events from the early eighties doesn't in itself make someone a pedant.

Andy rather than Ian was the one who looked to have the most potential. If I had to liken him to a current SL player it would have to be Sam Tomkins only without some of the attitude. He made a major breakthrough in a YTV televised game from Headingley V Barrow, where John Holmes incidentally, having been moved into the second row to accomodate young Andy, got himself sent off after a skirmish with Steve Kirkby. Andy Mackintosh was the one who stole the headlines though. Like his brother he was plagued by injury with knee problems and he also broke his arm quite badly one year at Castleford.

The surprising thing about Andy Mackintosh was that he never scored a point at 1st grade level for Leeds despite making 26 Appearances.

Ian Mackintosh by contrast contributed 51 in his 12 1st grade appearances and whilst being a decent kicker helped his cause he also contributed three tries along the way.

'It's alright Kev I've got this one covered.'

The incident does get a mention in someone's autobiography, either Schofield or Laughton's IIRC.

The version recounted is that Goulding and Gareth Stephens got into an altercation during a pre-season training camp in Anglesey, during which Goulding gave Stephens a bit of a hiding.

Douggie dragged him into a meeting that evening and gave him a lecture, at which point Goulding went out and took a fire extinguisher to Laughton's car doing a fair bit of damage.

I only started watching Leeds in 81-82 tvoc, so missed the prior year when I think Andy Mackintosh played quite a lot. I only ever saw him as a replacement at stand off when Holmes was injured - generally inducing groans around the ground when announced (I know he played a few times in the centres later).

Goulding could have been a Leeds great. Had we managed to retain him (and somehow get a decent fullback as he was swapped for Tait) we would have had on paper a genuine class half-back pairing for years with Schoey. As it was he kicked us to death in the JPT final for Widnes the very year he left IIRC.

One for any Leeds United fans (I think) out there:

Just on McGuire's tryscoring, from what I can gather his strike rate is better than the likes of Edwards and Hardisty. I had a quick look in "100 Leeds Greats" or whatever its called (by heck that needs some serious updating to get rid of the likes of Gallagher, Trevor Paterson etc etc) and it said Hardisty scored 304 tries from 540 games. Edrwards scored (as far as I can tell as finding decent stats on players is ridiculously hard) something like 274 in 467 games for Wigan plus another 40+ elsewehere - i.e. similar to Hardisty.

It also in part explains why most club records will never be beaten - for a lot of Edwards' career Wigan would have played over 40 games a year - certainly a good ten more games than teams do now.

Those were the days! Yorkshire Cup, John Player, League, Challenge Cup, Premiership! There was so much more for us not to win.

Ian Kirke (Salford Away) played his 100th game for Leeds on Sunday. He became the 29th player to do so for Leeds during the SL Era. Still above him on the list are 12 current 1st team squad members.

Just behind: Brent Webb now stands on 98 with Carl Ablett closing in on 97, behind them of the current squad Ryan Hall is next up with 81.

How many tries has Ryan Hall scored for us, TVOC? His strike must be pretty good.

Ryan Hall: SL Era - All Comps

Played 79 + 2, Tries 67, Strike Rate Per Appearance 0.83

Once you exclude the low appearance/high try count anomolies in Michael Coady (3 in 2), Paddy Handley (2 in 2) and Dean Bell (1 in 1) then Ryan Hall has the best strike rate for any Leeds player of the SL Era.

The only other Leeds' players that have hit above a 2 try in every 3 Appearances are:

Danny McGuire: 181 in 241 - 0.75

Mark Calderwood: 106 in 143 - 0.74

Marcus Bai: 45 in 63 - 0.71

Brent Webb: 69 in 98 - 0.70

Danny Williams: 12 in 18 - 0.67

Thanks TVOC. So, there is a good argument that he is our best winger in the Super League era, if you use strike rate as a basis.

You can't fault the lad really. He was given a chance and took it with both hands. He's not as flash as some wingers, nor as fast, but he does what needs to be done, and doesn't make many monumental cock ups, unlike the wingers of some other clubs.

In the Lewis Jones era tries were just 3 points and all his goals were with a heavy leather ball!

But Lewis only got 3 points for a try!