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| ATEOTD wherever we can make the most ££££ is where we will play.
Perfectly good ground on the other side of the North Stand that wont affect the team that play there as they have another home ground in Scarborough.
Or a bargain basement rent of Odsal.
Or a trip down to Elland Road.
Bring it on. Looking forward to the mental gymnastics of the positives and negatives.
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| Quote ="loiner81"How does going from average crowds of aprox 5500 to average crowds or aprox 5500 in 10 years, equate to a 30% increase?'"
Surprised you needed to ask that question once, astounded you needed to ask it twice.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Surprised you needed to ask that question once, astounded you needed to ask it twice.'"
Well you still havent' answered it. Do I need to ask 3 times?
If Printer's stats were wrong then fair enough, I haven't checked but then again you didn't dispute them so...
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| Quote ="loiner81"Well you still havent' answered it. Do I need to ask 3 times?
If Printer's stats were wrong then fair enough, I haven't checked but then again you didn't dispute them so...'"
5500 to 7500 is roughly 30%.
What last year's have to do with anything I don't know but as always I'm happy to help
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| Senior councillors have now approved the development of headingley. Just awaiting the start and completion dates to come out now.
Worrying factor is they kept saying in the meeting that the work would have to start at the beginning of September.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Senior councillors have now approved the development of headingley. Just awaiting the start and completion dates to come out now.
Worrying factor is they kept saying in the meeting that the work would have to start at the beginning of September.'"
Did you attend the meeting? What was said about the financial arrangements & the council's role in the process?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"5500 to 7500 is roughly 30%.
What last year's have to do with anything I don't know but as always I'm happy to help'"
As am I....
Quote ="SmokeyTA"Huddersfield giants attendances have grown vastly over the last decade or so.'"
Quote ="PrinterThe"2006 it was around 5,500 average. They did cheap tickets a few years back and got up to around 7,500. They were back down to around 5,500 last year.'"
So what "decade or so" did you mean?
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| Quote ="loiner81"As am I....
So what "decade or so" did you mean?'"
Is the reason why you missed out the post where I mentioned the 30% increase because it was pretty clear what that related to?
Are you arguing here that if we measure growth over a decade we only measure the first and last year and forget everything that happens in between?
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| A statement from leader of Leeds City Council Councillor Judith Blake, following a decision by the executive board to today approve a proposal which would see a third-party investor provide up to £35m to fund the redevelopment of Headingley Carnegie Stadium. In moving forward with the deal brokered by Leeds City Council, this will secure top-level international sport at Headingley. Leeds Rhinos has also pledged £5m towards the total cost of the redevelopment.
Leader of Leeds City Council Cllr Judith Blake, said:
“I am pleased that executive board has backed the deal which we have arranged with a private third-party investor to fund the redevelopment of Headingley Carnegie Stadium.
“It’s vital for both the city and the region that Headingley continues to host high-class international and domestic sport. With the tight timescales which are involved for this work to begin, this route offers the best and most viable option moving forward. As part of this agreement, the cost of financing the development will be met by both the rugby and cricket clubs at no cost to the tax-payer.
“Headingley is a historic sporting venue recognised around the world. In hosting top-class matches it brings a large international profile and significant economic benefits to Leeds and the wider region. The impact of having elite sports men and women playing at Headingley is also in many ways bigger than the sports themselves. The power they have as role models to inspire young people in our communities cannot be underestimated and neither is the ability through their success from a personal and team perspective to instil great pride in our city.”
Notes to editors:
As part of the deal, the council would enter into agreement with a third-party investor to lease the new facilities from the investor. Yorkshire CCC and Leeds Rhinos would then individually or through a new joint company owned by both the clubs, take sub-leases from the council to cover the cost of the development in full. To protect and reduce the risk to the council, both clubs will have to provide adequate security on both assets and income should there be any default in their rent repayments or further obligations.
In 2019, world famous Headingley Cricket Ground will be hosting matches from the 2019 World Cup, with associated economic benefits estimated at £20.5m. By securing top-class international sport at Headingley through the redevelopment, it is estimated that once completed, the new stands are forecast to generate additional expenditure of £107.3 million over the period between 2017 and 2023.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Is the reason why you missed out the post where I mentioned the 30% increase because it was pretty clear what that related to?
Are you arguing here that if we measure growth over a decade we only measure the first and last year and forget everything that happens in between?'"
Yes that's exactly what i'm arguing, are you being serious here?
I guess you are, in which case I'll let Son of Headingley have the last word.
Quote ="son of headingley"On reflection, I suppose he means the jump from 5,500 to 7,500 by giving away tickets. But, as their levels soon dropped back to their original 5,500 figure, logic dictates that the only way to get AND KEEP these extra supporters would be to continually offer the cheap membership tickets. Presumably the club has decided that that is not an economically viable option long term.
The only problem with a 30% upturn in anything is when it's very shortly followed by a 30% downturn (& one had to show one's a**e to get that initial upturn in the first place!)'"
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| Quote ="loiner81"Yes that's exactly what i'm arguing, are you being serious here?
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Basically what's happened is that he didn't realise that Hudds average attendance is around the same as it was 10 years ago so is trying to twist his way out of it because his cheap tickets idea was shown up as a poor idea.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Basically what's happened is that he didn't realise that Hudds average attendance is around the same as it was 10 years ago so is trying to twist his way out of it because his cheap tickets idea was shown up as a poor idea.'"
Exactly, but being the weak individual that he is he'll never admit to it.
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| Cheap tickets got them through the door. That's what I argued.
That son of headingley thinks that the only way to keep those people is to continually offer free tickets isn't true. That Huddersfield haven't made them sticky isn't my fault.
I think if the dynamic duo look back you will see I actually pointed out pages ago that to simply give out tickets and expect that to result in decades of season tickets was a pretty dumb idea. (About as dumb as measuring a decades growth by ignoring 8 years of results)After all price is but one part of your marketing mix as any GCSE business studies student could tell you.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Basically what's happened is that he didn't realise that Hudds average attendance is around the same as it was 10 years ago so is trying to twist his way out of it because his cheap tickets idea was shown up as a poor idea.'"
Not at Bradford City - they have shown the sustainability of cheap season tickets - they have sold 20k for next season pretty impressive for a team in Championship 1. How the tide has turned between soccer and RL in that city
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Not at Bradford City - they have shown the sustainability of cheap season tickets - they have sold 20k for next season pretty impressive for a team in Championship 1. How the tide has turned between soccer and RL in that city'"
beat me to it. providing enough are sold its a great idea.
sadly Huddersfield just can't attract the crowds, and they have really tried
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Cheap tickets got them through the door. That's what I argued.
That son of headingley thinks that the only way to keep those people is to continually offer free tickets isn't true. That Huddersfield haven't made them sticky isn't my fault.
I think if the dynamic duo look back you will see I actually pointed out pages ago that to simply give out tickets and expect that to result in decades of season tickets was a pretty dumb idea. (About as dumb as measuring a decades growth by ignoring 8 years of results)After all price is but one part of your marketing mix as any GCSE business studies student could tell you.'"
2006 average: 6141. Since then, 5 of the last 10 years saw Huddersfield average crowds below 7000.
In the last 3 years they've had 2 averages below 6000 and one at 6123.
If you want to keep calling that growth then so be it.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"beat me to it. providing enough are sold its a great idea.
sadly Huddersfield just can't attract the crowds, and they have really tried'"
Which is a shame because Huddersfield really was a RL town years ago
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| it is a shame yes, and i'm not really sure what more the club could do
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| Huddersfield was, but unfortunately not now, a proper Rugby League town. I live in Hudds and know and see more Leeds fans than Giants fans knocking about. The move from Fartown was a factor, probably amongst several more. Over the last few years, I've been offered several free tickets through the Uni, to attend Giants home matches.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Not at Bradford City - they have shown the sustainability of cheap season tickets - they have sold 20k for next season pretty impressive for a team in Championship 1. How the tide has turned between soccer and RL in that city'"
Yes the numbers are good if you keep them cheap, but the argument is when you try to then charge higher prices. Unless you think Leeds should continually charge very cheap prices.
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| depends on your budget. Bradford city manage easily on what they charge. should they get promotion that's when it gets tricky
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| Back on topic... I don't know if I've missed it, but who are the third party who're going to be stumping up the cash? Carnegie?
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| Quote ="Superted"Back on topic... I don't know if I've missed it, but who are the third party who're going to be stumping up the cash? Carnegie?'"
An as yet unnamed finance house in the City.
They will pay for the development & lease it back to the council who will in turn charge an annual rent to The Rhinos & YCCC.
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