So your great marketing plan is to give stuff away for cheap or free

God I'm glad your not in charge of Leeds's marketing. Did you come up with Hudds cheap season tickets a few years back that as soon as they went saw no improvement in crowd numbers?

It's just a matter of playing somewhere convenient till the development is completed enough for us to move back

And.. he's off again.

My God, I am no fan of The Printer (or is it Printer The?), but really Smokey, give it a rest.

The two of you sound like two pre-pubescent girls (sorry, knowing Smokey's PC-sensitive disposition I perhaps should have made that gender-neutral).

Printer - you're not going to get a straight answer from him (as ever) so just leave him be.

Smokey - no amount of goalpost-changing, smoke-screening or obfuscation will allow the intelligent reader to be swayed to your nonsensical standpoint. You're probably best waiting 'til you can jump on someone for perceived homophobia, racism or sexism. At least then you do not need the prerequisite of logic to back up your argument.

Do you not think Leeds Rhinos are actively chasing these groups and if Leeds Utd struggle to get 30k Leeds Rhinos have no chance for a regular season game given the relative popularity of both games

not to the level they could with a bigger stadium. 32k at elland road today

Huddersfield giants attendances have grown vastly over the last decade or so.

Difficult not to tbh

2006 it was around 5,500 average. They did cheap tickets a few years back and got up to around 7,500. They were back down to around 5,500 last year.

Season average 27k and that is with them 4/5 in the table

In the 2nd division. And wouldnt those attendances be worthwhile for the Rhinos?

That's a massive increase over the last decade. Hats off and well done to all at Huddersfield.

Indeed a roughly 30% increase because of that terrible idea

But the whole point of that idea is that the new fans you've attracted with cheap tickets will then stay, they clearly didn't as attendances dropped back down to previous. So the idea failed in its main objective.

How does going from average crowds of aprox 5500 to average crowds or aprox 5500 in 10 years, equate to a 30% increase?

Perhaps I am wrong ,but the assumption on here seems to be the building schedule will just take up one season.
Seems optimistic, as I have mentioned before some major building projects can work 24 hrs per day 7 days per week.
I can't see the local population agreeing to that. Interesting times ahead.

I didn't want to ask, in case it was some fiendish trap I hadn't seen & walked right into. However, since you've brought it up, I have to admit I was thinking the same.

On reflection, I suppose he means the jump from 5,500 to 7,500 by giving away tickets. But, as their levels soon dropped back to their original 5,500 figure, logic dictates that the only way to get AND KEEP these extra supporters would be to continually offer the cheap membership tickets. Presumably the club has decided that that is not an economically viable option long term.

The only problem with a 30% upturn in anything is when it's very shortly followed by a 30% downturn (& one had to show one's a**e to get that initial upturn in the first place!)

There is quite a bit of time between when the Giants were running those cheap ticket deals and now. Im not suggesting that we get people through the door 1-5times and then do nothing and those new fans will be season ticket holders in 10 years time, such a thing would be ridiculous.

however Hudds started running cheap season tickets deal in 2008, in that year they got just under 8k, and didnt drop below 7k again until 2013.

Well that was a cracking read! May as well give my two pennies worth seen as everybody else is.

Using ER could go either way. If filled as Smokey suggest it would be great, but as Printer mentioned attempts to fill it could fail miserably. To be totally honest I dunno what the best thing to suggest would be, nor will I be bothered when it's announced, all I need to know is where to be and when.

Hudds only started increasing the prices recently, even in 2012 you could get a ST for £50 in the Fantastic Media Stand and £99 in others, so they did cheap for several years.

I think it would be better to take a small hit finacially and stay within the city at ER than risk losing a % of fans if we move to Bradford. I for one can not envisage myself spending my Friday nights in Bradford.

Aren't your arguing against yourself here? Cheap tickets got people through door. Price elasticity of demand isn't a new concept. We can use it to get people through the door.

A week later than I thought, today is decision day. I'll be amazed if the LCC Exec Board don't rubber stamp the decision.
FWIW if we do play at Odsal during the redevelopment I for one will not be going.
It's a god-forsaken dump, freezing cold even at the height of summer.

How does going from average crowds of aprox 5500 to average crowds or aprox 5500 in 10 years, equate to a 30% increase?

Trap or clap trap? I'm going for the latter and if he ever replies we'll find out.