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| Quote ="Rh1nomick"Fantastic second half, did not see that coming even with us carrying a passenger at 6 the whole game, he is my only concern so far this year he seems to be well of the pace so far.'"
The whole game???
Granted he was poor first half, most were. He had a high error count first half, one or two his own doing, one or two from poor passes.
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| Amazing 2nd half !!!!! Oh dear Hull
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| He was anonymous in the second half too.
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| Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde performance.A lot still to work on, but hey ho job done.What are they feeding Singleton on
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"The whole game???
Granted he was poor first half, most were. He had a high error count first half, one or two his own doing, one or two from poor passes.'"
I think he's talking about Sinfield(?) He couldn't have been talking about McGuire based on that second half, surely?
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| Not to take away from Singleton but I thought Watkins was streets ahead of anybody for MOM. Only one who could hold his head up high at half time and got even better in the 2nd half.
Good to see Singleton get good game time (especially when things weren't going our way), helped changed the tide but the absolutely massive gap in the Hull defence he ran through for the first McGuire try summed up the 2nd half showing from Hull.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Not to take away from Singleton but I thought Watkins was streets ahead of anybody for MOM. Only one who could hold his head up high at half time and got even better in the 2nd half.
Good to see Singleton get good game time (especially when things weren't going our way), helped changed the tide but the absolutely massive gap in the Hull defence he ran through for the first McGuire try summed up the 2nd half showing from Hull.'"
Agreed. He's the best English player to watch when he's at his best.
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| Quote ="Rh1nomick"He was anonymous in the second half too.'"
Apologies thought you were talking about McGuire
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| Yeah just worried about Sinfield at the mo, just seems to be well off the pace so far and having no influence on proceedings. Plenty of other positives in the team which I really should be more upbeat about.!!!
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| Too many errors in the first half plus the odd bad call from the ref meant we never had enough possession and had no momentum at all. Credit should go to our defense which kept us in the game at 12-0 and in particular JJB who once again put in a huge effort. Great come back in the 2nd half with some quality tries and despite things not going his way in the first half McGuire showed his true class after half time.
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| Quote ="Rh1nomick"Yeah just worried about Sinfield at the mo, just seems to be well off the pace so far and having no influence on proceedings. Plenty of other positives in the team which I really should be more upbeat about.!!!'"
Apologises I thought you meant McGuire. As for Sinfield, yes I agree he still struggled 2nd half. First half TBF when he got the ball he had no one beside him to move it on to and kind of summed up our first half. Still him rallying the troops behind the posts after Pryce's 2nd try compared to the bottom-lip sulking of Brough a week ago I think still highlights how crucial it is to have him out there directing things.
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| How lucky am I? I only got in in time to watch the second half, so as far as I could see that was our best game in years. Clinical, full of flair, running hard in the middle, actually getting the ball to Watkins in a bit of space, even running some set plays. Everything we've been crying out for the past couple of years. How much of it was down to Hull, I don't know, but I'm happy to celebrate some fantastic viewing.
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| KR fan here, just a thank you for an enjoyable 40 minutes of telly! Saying that Rhinos were simply awesome second half, one of the best 40 minutes I seen from any side in years, quite frightening at times, just blew a big Hull pack away!
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| Quote ="craigizzard"How lucky am I? I only got in in time to watch the second half, so as far as I could see that was our best game in years. Clinical, full of flair, running hard in the middle, actually getting the ball to Watkins in a bit of space, even running some set plays. Everything we've been crying out for the past couple of years. How much of it was down to Hull, I don't know, but I'm happy to celebrate some fantastic viewing.'" same here. Whilst I heard leeds were awful first half when I stars watching it was all champagne rugby
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| Fc fan here
Just want to say what a fantastic second half display of rugby tonight
Don't buy into the short turn around, we was totally outclassed in the second 40
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| Remember Adam Pearson being herelded as the saviour and God of Hull FC a few years back around the time of the Luke Briscoe debate, who would wipe the floor with Gary Hetherington and teach him a lesson.....they don't seem that happy with him now over on the Hull board though
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Brian Carney the only voice of sense. The thing is Hardaker fell whilst catching one earlier as he collided wih a Hull player mid-air.'"
Yep. Stuart Cummings just flat out lying with regard to the rules. Whilst still a harsh call, in my opinion, I can see why Silverwood gave it as a penalty in real time with only one look.
Cummings comments were unacceptable. His job is to explain the rules. Not make up bull just to pretend the referee got the decision correct.
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| Quote ="Him"Yep. Stuart Cummings just flat out lying with regard to the rules. Whilst still a harsh call, in my opinion, I can see why Silverwood gave it as a penalty in real time with only one look.
Cummings comments were unacceptable. His job is to explain the rules. Not make up bull just to pretend the referee got the decision correct.'"
Exactly. He said that Hardaker was "nowhere near the ball".....he collided with the guy trying to catch it FFS, so clearly must've been somewhere NEAR the ball.
Having Cummings in the commentary was a novelty at first, but it's easily run its course now and just get rid. The more Brian Carney and Barrie McDermott and Jon Wells we hear the better. Whilst I don't wish him ill health and hope he recovers, it's been nice not to have Stevo commentating recently. Cummings and Clarke should go.....although to be fair to Clarke he didn't sound desperate for the opposition to beat Leeds tonight....he must hold a serious grudge against Hull then I'm guessing.
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| Stunning second half performance, Hull were very good first half and came out second half as they thought the game was won. Westerman's lack of pace was really exposed three of the trys were caused by players being too quick for him. Watkins was my MOM by quite a distance in full flow he is the best athlete in SL. I am struggling to see why Kylie is even on the bench 10 minutes a game isn't sufficient contribution to prevent a youngster getting valuable experience. Burrow, whilst he scored a nice try, wasn't introduced until the game was over should not be playing ahead of Sutcliffe if Sutcliffe is going to be the future half back. Very good away win but they beat a team that lost to Salford. Onwards to Warrington
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Stunning second half performance, Hull were very good first half and came out second half as they thought the game was won. Westerman's lack of pace was really exposed three of the trys were caused by players being too quick for him. Watkins was my MOM by quite a distance in full flow he is the best athlete in SL. I am struggling to see why Kylie is even on the bench 10 minutes a game isn't sufficient contribution to prevent a youngster getting valuable experience. Burrow, whilst he scored a nice try, wasn't introduced until the game was over should not be playing ahead of Sutcliffe if Sutcliffe is going to be the future half back. Very good away win but they beat a team that lost to Salford. Onwards to Warrington'"
Burrow came on with the score 12-18 and whilst the momentum had swung in our favour victory was by no means certain at the time. He provided great impact with 2 tries and an assist and showed why he still is a prime asset.
In this game IMO Kylie provided impact off the bench as he took the ball in strongly. He scored a try, made 15 tackles and 8 carries - not bad in 10 minutes.
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| My point about Burrow is it appears it is either him or Sutcliffe that gets selected - if Sutcliffe is the future is his only chance of getting selected when someone gets injured? By the time Burrow came on the game was over, Hull were finished. He played well and given how both half backs played in the first half especially McGuire nobody could have objected if either had been substituted for Burrow.
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| Second half at times reminded me very much of the 4-30 win there on Easter Monday 2008 in the snow.
I don't think Leeds were too far off the pace in the first half. It was frustrating individual errors that kept Hull in the game and some indiscipline. After Leeds opening set of the game they did not touch the ball then for another 9 minutes. Then on the first set after that period they invited more pressure with coughing the ball up third tackle from the forward pass.
There were some frustrating individual errors in the first half but Leeds seemed to be making hay down the left channel with Ablett, Moon and Hall. There were just some poor choices. Leeds could have scored but for JJB losing the ball over the line.
Leeds have conceded try from a kick and fallen for oldest Leon Pryce trick in the book. It was bitterly disappointing to concede a try like that.
Not really a lot to say about the second half, but like Hull in the first half Leeds had possession for the first 8 minutes of the half and took full advantage. Hull losing Watts in the build up left them short and forced Gareth Ellis to play up the middle after Targut came on and he was less effective there. But the way the Hull energy levels dropped off in the second half were alarming at times. Leeds though, were clinical and effective and where in the first hald passes weren't sticking they did in the second half. Rather than go to the edges Leeds were a little more direct in their attack and it paid off for them as well.
There are tougher tests to come for this Leeds side in the next three weeks with Warrington, Wigan and Catalans on the horizon. Might be worth judging where Leeds are at after then.
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| Stunning second half display from us. Had the wow factor for 40 mins.
However I cant put that first half display to the back of my mind. Why did that happen? Lets face it, Hull should have had more, Wigan, Wire & Saints would have put at least 18 on the board.
Then the 2nd half, was that genius by McD or t was down to Hull collapse? When a team is flagging there is no doubt about it that Leeds are the best equipped side in SL to take advantage. However the first half performance when Hull were really firing into us is a concern. I'll firmly make my judgement on Leeds after next week vs Wire. We will know a lot more by then.
One thing I think this side will need, or should I say what the forwards in this side needs, is another mid season 'Ali Lauititi' typre signing. That could be an important piece of the jigsaw to fit/
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| Hey guys,
Just a quick post to say thanks and congratulate you on one of the best 40 minutes of attacking RL I've seen in a long while. Even as a Bulls fan that was a complete joy to watch. When Burrow dropped that flick reverse pass from Cuthbertson I think it may be the first time in my life I was actually disappointed that Leeds didn't score!
Seriously though, they should be showing that second 40 to all aspiring junior players across the country. Firstly, as a good example of how not to defend/tackle (Hull), but more importantly to demonstrate how to attack with pace, power, flair and exceptional ball handling. That is how this game is meant to be played.
Thanks again.
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| The first half was very similar to the bad patch against Hudds. The Hull forwards were running faster and harder, and winning the ground - we couldn't cope with the speed of their play the balls. Add to that the fact that we were trying to offload and go round them before earning the right by punching holes up the middle and that's why we struggled.
2nd half we visibly ran harder and focused on winning the middle - when we did that, our strike players were able to capitalise. McGuire did have a shocker 1st half, but he was playing behind a beaten pack and as a team we were still trying to go round them - he was clearly much more effective playing off the back of a dominant pack in the 2nd half - all to be expected.
I do worry that we seem incapable of matching teams when they're winning the floor - the Wigan pack would have had a field day in that 1st half, and they wouldn't have been so soft in the 2nd as Hull were.
Westerman was absolutely lead legged in defence - he was on his heels and exposed by some great running.
Watkins showed his class, it's easy to forget he's only 23, he seems to have been around forever. If he can keep his involvement levels up, he could easily push for MOS. Big raps for Ward and Singleton - great work rates on the 2 of them. Good to see both putting in performances that mean they demand a shirt - something few youngsters have done in recent times. They'd be 2 of first names on team sheet next week for me.
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