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| Just think, by the 7th August, Cas could be out of the Cup and out of Super League ....
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"I agree, so why are you arguing?
Where have I said that Castleford won't be up for it? Of course they'll be up for it but it's highly unlikely that'll be enough to secure them a trip to Wembley.
I deal with reality and the reality is that Castleford are just making up the Semi Final numbers. When was the last time Castleford won a CC Semi Final during the SL era?
Exactly.'"
Good to see selective quoting.
Never mind. I can't be d arguing with someone who talks nonsense.
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| Quote ="Fully"Good to see selective quoting.'"
What selective quoting? I quoted your earlier response in full.
Quote ="Fully"Never mind. I can't be d arguing with someone who talks nonsense.'"
Feel free to return when...
1. You're able to refrain from ascribing the [i'nonsense'[/i you happen to be spouting on to others.
2. You're able to construct a valid argument for Castleford as a genuine contender to win the CC Semi Final by citing some evidence of previous Castleford CC Semi Final wins during the SL era.
3. If you can't manage (2) above, I'll have to assume you're in agreement with me that Castleford are just making up the Semi Final numbers based on past SL evidence, and that they are indeed just whipping boys in waiting.
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| You will feel an absolute **** if Leeds lose.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"They make you outsiders not because they don't think you have a chance, but because none of their punters think you have a chance. That's how bookmaking works isn't it? Balancing odds depending on what direction the money's going?
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Precisely.
Betting odds never represent the actual likelyhood of any event happening, they merely represent a commercial decision by the profitable enterprise of the bookmaker to pitch a sale at a level that will attract the most fools eager to part with their money for no tangible benefit.
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| Wait until the compiled odds come out for the individual game..i can tell you now there wont be much in it. Leeds are no longer the force they once were..face facts my friend.
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| Quote ="JoshyyCas"Wait until the compiled odds come out for the individual game..i can tell you now there wont be much in it. Leeds are no longer the force they once were..face facts my friend.'"
Your odds are pitched to attract a level of business, nothing more - its why odds move around depending on the level of exposure to risk or underselling of the event that the profitable bookmaker feels he has - it has little or nothing to do with what may or may not happen during any specified event.
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| At Outlaws we're running a coach down for the CC final for the first time, which will be a real laugh. I'm thinking though that if Leeds get there it'll ruin the day for me a bit
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"Disagree... if anything, the CC Final at Wembley attracts a sizeable number of [i'event bandwagoners'[/i who are attracted to a weekend down on the mickey in the big smoke. True RL fans they most certainly are not.
I'll be there on November 5th for sure... you?'"
Don't actually seem to have been away from the place this year!
FA Cup semi final followed by FA Cup win followed by Charity Shield followed by Challenge Cup Final followed by double header on Nov 5th.
Only support I football team and Rhinos and the last year when I watched them both play at Wembley was 1999! not writing Cas off as it will be a hard match.
That Sinny lifts that cup and that at least we turn up if we get there. Last year we didn't even manage to sing "Marching ON ..." and it was a horrible day
One step at a time though and I know everybody will give Cas the respect they deserve.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"I wasn't aware there was a competition going on for the best come back. Not interested anyhow. I just deal with reality.
Leeds are an ordinary team this year. Fortunately for them, Castleford are whipping boy rabble (just like Hull FC). That's why Leeds are off to Wembley again and Castleford are just making up the Semi Final numbers.
You may have noticed the celebratory Leeds dressing room immediately after they were aware of who they'd drawn in the Semi Final? I certainly did. Their collective expressions had 'Wembley' written all over them.'"
I have to say, it's sometimes a pleasure to see a master at work.
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| Good to see Keith can still have an effect on visitors from other clubs. It's been a while since I've seen him trolling someone other than Leeds fans.
I was pleased with the draw. Not that I think Cas will be easy, just that I think they'll be easier than Wigan or Stains. I'm sure Cas thought exactly the same about us.
I think we [imight[/i well get to Wembley again, where we will be massive underdogs. Anything can happen in a one-off game, but you'd have to say that the winners are likely to be the winners of the othewr semi really. Both the weekend games on the tellybox were entertaining, but there was a huge difference in the quality.
I might well pop down to Wembley again whoever is there (dead easy from here) and certainly intend to go down for the 5th November. I'm excited about that one. We'll probably get a beating, but I've never been to an international at Wembley.
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| does anyone know the end cas or leeds will be allocated for the final.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"I'll be there on November 5th for sure... you?'"
Only going for the day though Keith, we'll be in the wetherspoons in Harrow on the hill prior to the game as always, pop in for a cold one
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"At Outlaws we're running a coach down for the CC final for the first time, which will be a real laugh. I'm thinking though that if Leeds get there it'll ruin the day for me a bit'"
Luckily it's not about you.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"You may have noticed the celebratory Leeds dressing room immediately after they were aware of who they'd drawn in the Semi Final? I certainly did. Their collective expressions had 'Wembley' written all over them.'"
To be fair, I imagine the Cas players reacted in exactly the same way.
It wasn't so much who Leeds drew, it was avoiding Wigan and Saints. Same goes for Cas.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"To be fair, I imagine the Cas players reacted in exactly the same way.
It wasn't so much who Leeds drew, it was avoiding Wigan and Saints. Same goes for Cas.'"
To be honest, on their season form, they would have probably preferred either Saints or Wigan over us.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Your odds are pitched to attract a level of business, nothing more - its why odds move around depending on the level of exposure to risk or underselling of the event that the profitable bookmaker feels he has - it has little or nothing to do with what may or may not happen during any specified event.'"
Lovely theory, but not completely true. Compilers and traders are well paid for a reason and will be prepared to be more exposed on some events than others.
I reckon Leeds will be giving Cas a 6-8 point start in the match.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"Not in Rugby League however.'"
Sheffield Eagles anyone?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"To be fair, I imagine the Cas players reacted in exactly the same way.'"
Your not wrong there
My Cas supporting work colleagues were in the corporate section [i<a scruffy run down bar inside the ground > [/i on Sunday and they said that all the players were buzzing when they heard the draw.
TBF its the ideal draw for both clubs, if we were offered a semi final against Cas at the start of the season for a place at wembley would we be happy? Too bloody right we would be
Are Cas happy at meeting an under performing Rhinos side that has lost 10 games so far this season and are currently below them in the league table for the first time in god knows how long? Too bloody right they are
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| Saints v Cas final it is then
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| Quote ="007"Sheffield Eagles anyone?'"
Well done on remembering a result in isolation from 13 years ago.
Still doesn't amount to 16/1 shots coming in every day in Rugby League.
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Your not wrong there
My Cas supporting work colleagues were in the corporate section [i<a scruffy run down bar inside the ground
> [/i on Sunday and they said that all the players were buzzing when they heard the draw.'"
A Semi Final against Leeds is more important than any Cup Final for them.
Quote ="The Biffs Back"Are Cas happy at meeting an under performing Rhinos side that has lost 10 games so far this season and are currently below them in the league table for the first time in god knows how long? Too bloody right they are'"
I'm sure they believe they're in with a good chance of beating Leeds.
In reality, they aren't and they won't.
McGuire will probably have his customary flat-track bully field day against Castleford. He'd score against them even if he was laid out on a stretcher.
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| Quote ="JoshyyCas"Wait until the compiled odds come out for the individual game..i can tell you now there wont be much in it. Leeds are no longer the force they once were..face facts my friend.'"
Yes and cas are still only just hanging in there remind me what was the score at the jungle this season past it eh !!!
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| It's quite possible that we will be above Castleford in the league table by the time the semi-final comes about.
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