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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"IMO I think that all of our England academy players need to be playing above academy level next season even though they still qualify to play at that level, in order to progress their careers
I can foresee that the majority of these players being sent out on either dual reg or even on a season's long loan deal depending on which club they go to.
Realistically speaking I would love to see our talented kids that won't get a game in the first team during 2019 ultimately go out on loan and play in the Championship if possible in order to get them ready for 2020/2021 onwards whilst playing against sides that will take them out of their comfort zone as being top dog at academy level.
For players like Harry Newman and Tom Holroyd I would like them to go to Fev on dual reg in order that they can also play some first team footy at the Rhinos too as they are the 2 most likely to get the chance in the first team in 2019 IMO
Thoughts guys'"
Fev worked quite well last year. Their new coach has experience in coaching academy players too I think? There is definitely a transition between props playing academy and running through smaller/weaker players, and getting to open age where they'll get put on their backsides sometimes. I'm not really sure why the Championship would better protect though - it's a very physical league with some big hard nuts running around.
Overall I'd say it's very much a case-by-case basis. I think Bailey and Ablett spent time in London early on - don't see that the Bradford stint did Cam Smith any favours at all though. Some players need a challenge to grow up a bit frankly; others do better in the Leeds environment right through.
Whatever they do decide with Holroyd, he is exactly the type of player we need coming through and I'd like to see him get a few first team appearances in 2019.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Fev worked quite well last year. Their new coach has experience in coaching academy players too I think? '"
He knows Furner quite well and has said he'll be popping in to Rhinos training sessions regularly.
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| Quote ="FGB"From Chev Walker (on the Our League commentary) who said that he himself was classed as 'the manchild' when he debuted as he was 100kg, but no where near the 122kg that Holroyd is.'"
Makes him bigger than the 6'9" Tyson Fury who weighed in at just under 117kg for the Wilder fight in that case. I have doubts regardless of Chev's take on it.
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| Interesting that Wire are happy to release Morgan Smith especially after they pyt so much ££££ into getting him there from our scholarship.
Pity they wasted so much time trying to turn him into a 9 when his huge potential was at 6.
Another to file under "grass wasnt greener at W@#ky" with Learmonth & Brooke Broughton.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Interesting that Wire are happy to release Morgan Smith especially after they pyt so much ££££ into getting him there from our scholarship.
Pity they wasted so much time trying to turn him into a 9 when his huge potential was at 6.
Another to file under "grass wasnt greener at W@#ky" with Learmonth & Brooke Broughton.'"
Has he got a club lined up?
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Has he got a club lined up?'"
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Makes him bigger than the 6'9" Tyson Fury who weighed in at just under 117kg for the Wilder fight in that case. I have doubts regardless of Chev's take on it.'"
The Burgess twins weigh 130kg.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Makes him bigger than the 6'9" Tyson Fury who weighed in at just under 117kg for the Wilder fight in that case. I have doubts regardless of Chev's take on it.'"
Fury is just blubber though, which weighs less than muscle.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Interesting that Wire are happy to release Morgan Smith especially after they pyt so much ££££ into getting him there from our scholarship.
Pity they wasted so much time trying to turn him into a 9 when his huge potential was at 6.
Another to file under "grass wasnt greener at W@#ky" with Learmonth & Brooke Broughton.'"
Plenty of envelopes from his "petrol monies" he can sell on if he needs a bob or two though.
Continues the great tradition of Warrington pilfering other teams youth players and completely ruining them.
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"Plenty of envelopes from his "petrol monies" he can sell on if he needs a bob or two though.
Continues the great tradition of Warrington pilfering other teams youth players and completely ruining them.'"
Didn't it say he has an offer from two Super League clubs? can that really be defined as ruining?
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"The Burgess twins weigh 130kg.'"
65kg each or is it 66/64?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Didn't it say he has an offer from two Super League clubs? can that really be defined as ruining?'"
Look at the clubs that are offering - he was supposed the next great thing in the northern hemisphere - either he wasn't really that good or Warrington have completely trashed his talent.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Look at the clubs that are offering - he was supposed the next great thing in the northern hemisphere - either he wasn't really that good or Warrington have completely trashed his talent.'"
He was a brilliant prospect. But he could have stayed at Leeds and would probably have been worse off still under McDermott, as our history shows. So I am not sure we are in a position to say ruined. When/If he fails at the two clubs proposed, then might be a better time to say ruined.
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| But dont forget - 'The Postman' always delivers. Take heed rising stars.
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| Quote ="FGB"But dont forget - 'The Postman' always delivers. Take heed rising stars.'"
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Would be if correct. No way is he 19 stone + though.'"
According to my super dooper new handbook i got through the post this morning says he is 116 kg (18st 4lbs) and 6ft 2ins...........be a big lad when he grows up
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| he's a hell of a unit. good engine too
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"I know some staff was concerned he didn't play some games last year when they thought he couldve played which is my point regarding his mentality.
He's a fantastic prospect. I've championed him on here many times. I always want young props holding back. There is no rush. Stuart Fielden was playing prop at that age but was finished at 27 we don't want that. Prop is a hard position for someone so young nowadays.
Tommy is great, he's going to be a tremendous player for us but for me he isn't ready to playing against men week in week out.'"
Completely agree with this. He is still 17 at present, has had 1 year playing u19's and yet to train as a full time pro. Big talent but I'd rather he got brought through 6 months after he is ready rather than the other way round. He will be dominant in u19's but is still a kid.
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| Quote ="FGB"A kid that already weighs 122kg. Scary. This lad is our future pack leader.'"
Yes but he has to be careful with the weight, 122kg is more than enough.
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"A fantastic victory last night by the England boys and thoroughly deserved too
AS has already been mentioned, there is a very talented group of young players coming through and not only at the Rhinos but also at all of the other clubs too which bodes well for our game.
IMO England's defence won the game and our pack were far better than the Aussie forwards,They never really looked capable of breaking us down.
Tom Holroyd was my stand out player.
If I was looking to bring in junior talent into the Rhinos then I would be very interested in Oliver Wilson (Bulls) and Sam Walters (Widnes) especially with them both not being already at clubs in SL'"
It's a horrible situation for Widnes to be in ATM and I hope that they can find a way out of the mess they are in.
IMO Sam Walters is the only player I would be willing to make a move for if the vultures come circling and bills need paying at the club,he's a fantastic junior prospect
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| 19s are at Bishop Burton College Saturday at 12pm v Hull if anyone fancies going and watching a good set of kids. Nice set up at Bishop Burton. I'm gonna go over.
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| A young 19s team losing 24-10 at HT v City of Academy who have a much older team starting and raced into a 24-0 lead.
Harry Gregoriou looks to have sustained a knee injury unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"A young 19s team losing 24-10 at HT v City of Academy who have a much older team starting and raced into a 24-0 lead.
Harry Gregoriou looks to have sustained a knee injury unfortunately.'"
Who is looking useful today Marty?
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| Holroyd did full 80. Dupree and Trout made an impact but other than those it was a young team but they stuck at it and if young Joe Burton hadn't dropped it going over at the death team might have snatched a draw. Lost 34-28 in end. Only a friendly tho. 1st game on Thursday at home to Wakey.
The right winger scored 2 beauties today Leeds.
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