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| Yes. I'm going on holiday.
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| I am, whilst not many seem to give us much chance that may work in our favour.
I have a feeling that the wire think its game set and match to them. Anyway I am a veteran of semi-finals. The worst disaster was the defeat at Central Park when widnes rolled us over. Fast forward a few years to a success story,once again at Central Park when we beat saints.
So long as I see a big effort from the lads that will do for me, what I don't want to see is a dumbass decision from Bentham that will effect the games outcome for us.
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| I think some of the pessimism is misplaced. Wire have had some iffy results lately too.
You'd be forgiven for thinking they were top and we were bottom reading these boards.
I don't get out much, so I'm just looking forward to the game being on proper telly so I can spend a couple of hours debating whether or not Rugby League is better than CBeebies with my two year old.
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| The Bookies make decisions based on hard hearted facts.
They all have you as favourites for both Saturday & to win the Cup.
It is us that are the underdogs.
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| The only people that don't seem to be giving Leeds a chance are Leeds fans.
I'm of the opinion that we'll win a close game or get hammered.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"I'm of the opinion that we'll win a close game or get hammered.'"
I said the same thing to my mate over the weekend.
Leeds will win a tight game by 4 - 6 points or Warrington will win by 12 - 16. Either of these 2 results could happen & I wont be betting on this game.
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| Does anyone know who has been allocated which end at Wembley?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Does anyone know who has been allocated which end at Wembley?'"
Yes. Winners of our game are in the east stand
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"The Bookies make decisions based on hard hearted facts.
They all have you as favourites for both Saturday & to win the Cup.
It is us that are the underdogs.'"
I don't think either team are the underdogs, think it's fairly 50/50. Much has been made on here asking/suggesting that this Leeds team might not be able to win the big ones anymore. Which I agree is a valid question that we'll only see answered AT THE END of the season even if some have already decided the answer is no.
On the other hand even though some have pointed to Warrington's dominance in this competition in recent years as a main reason as to why they're favourites a question hangs over this current Wire team for me. Can they/Are they able to repeat it without Briers, Hodgson (the MOM's in the two finals vs us) as well as former captain Morley and starting prop Carvell? The Warrington line-up on Saturday will have a noticeable difference to the one which last lifted them a trophy.
Think in all the concentration on Leeds fortunes of late some haven't taken too close a look at Wire. They're missing very key men from their past successes. They went a good run of wins of late, but mostly made up of the bottom 6. For all the talk of how Leeds' defence has declined recently, since the start of July we've conceded 84 points compared to Warrington's 122. Whilst they got back on the horse against Catalans it came off the back of two losses where they shipped 34 points on average. People might complain about our sub prop options but if you've visited the Wire board this year then you'll see they hold Asotasi in a similar vain as Kirke on here.
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| Its a CC semi anything can happen Wigan hammered us with a scratch team at HQ yet we beat them in the CC a matter of weeks later.
This Team/Squad can beat anyone when we get it right I just hope we "turn up" and put a shift in.
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| Leeds will win. You're the better side and have been playing within yourself.
Same old story really when it comes to Leeds.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"The Bookies make decisions based on hard hearted facts.
They all have you as favourites for both Saturday & to win the Cup.
It is us that are the underdogs.'"
The bookies play it by the numbers.
Leeds are above warrington in the table, it's one a piece head to head and across the season so far leeds have picked up better results, so the bookies will favour leeds.
But anyone who has seen plenty of leeds in the last couple of months and also warringtons performances would be favouring warrington. Both have had poor results but warrington have shown far more form in that time than leeds.
So the general consensus amongst the neutral fans would be that warrington are going to do leeds.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"
This Team/Squad can beat anyone when we get it right I just hope we "turn up" and put a shift in.'"
Yep.if we turn up as we all we know we can we win imo.any of the recent form is served up and of course we can wave bye bye,but I think a lot of the teams focus of late has been on this game and I expect the big game leeds to come out the traps on saturday.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"The bookies play it by the numbers.
Leeds are above warrington in the table, it's one a piece head to head and across the season so far leeds have picked up better results, so the bookies will favour leeds.
But anyone who has seen plenty of leeds in the last couple of months and also warringtons performances would be favouring warrington. Both have had poor results but warrington have shown far more form in that time than leeds.
So the general consensus amongst the neutral fans would be that warrington are going to do leeds.'"
Whilst wire have been ok at times I have seen nothing myself for us to fear.they were dire against widnes and well beaten at home to wakey.fair enough they toughed it out in france but we all know leeds have a few more gears to go to and how they can lift for big games.
All if's and but's.we will see in a few days but im still confident of us pulling off the win.I think we have more big game players TBH.
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| The massive problems Leeds have to turn around are the fact Warrington are far quicker at play the ball and around the ruck plus are alot faster at half back. Leeds recent form has highlighted our problems in those areas .
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| I think it's close enough to go either way, and would be more than happy just to see a blood and guts performance that we could take forward into the playoffs.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"The massive problems Leeds have to turn around are the fact Warrington are far quicker at play the ball and around the ruck plus are alot faster at half back. Leeds recent form has highlighted our problems in those areas .'"
Wire are certainly quick but if things aren't going their way, their response usually seems to be to try to play even more quickly. Yes, they might blow us away - although they're about the only side to have even come close to doing that this season - but equally they could implode if it's an arm wrestle.
In response to the OP, yes I'm looking forward to it. It's only the semi, what have we really got to lose?
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| I'm actually looking forward to Saturday. I think Leeds will bring their A game. We will play out our sets, concentrate on a high completion rate and with a much improved defence, nothing special just get the W.
Does anyone know how many we're taking over?
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| I cant wait. Its a trip out to a place i enjoy going to, some good banter with the Wire fans, a semi final, and I fancy us to get the job done in a tight contest. All set fair for me!
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| Where is everyone Drinking on Saturday?
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| If a side were to run away with it, you may expect that to be Wire.
But if it is evenly contested, be interesting to see how Leeds perform in the last 10-15 minutes. as we have lost alot of games this year in this period. If I can pick that up Tony Smith will and will want his chargers turning the screw at that point.
Big test for Leeds.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"If a side were to run away with it, you may expect that to be Wire.
But if it is evenly contested, be interesting to see how Leeds perform in the last 10-15 minutes. as we have lost alot of games this year in this period. If I can pick that up Tony Smith will and will want his chargers turning the screw at that point.
Big test for Leeds.'"
For Leeds to do it, they need to do what they did to Wigan the other year, go all out right at the start. It shocked Wigan and that was what won the game.
You are correct on the later stages of the game. A close game and that late, Leeds don't appear to have it anymore.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"For Leeds to do it, they need to do what they did to Wigan the other year, go all out right at the start. It shocked Wigan and that was what won the game.
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They didn't go all out though. Wigan just turned up without their heads in the game and gave leeds an 18 point start.
Tomkins spills a bomb - try 1.
Tomkins let's a blatant an easily avoidable 40/20 slowly trickle out - try 2.
Josh charnley knocks on from the 1st tackle of a kick return....blatant forward pass to peacock - try 3.
By the end of the game, leeds were probably a clear knock on from mcguire (resulting in a try) away from losing the game.
If you class that as going on all out then we are relying on warrington munumentally f*cking up multiple times early on for that to work.
It's been said already but the game will be won and lost at the ruck. That is where warrington, more than any other punish teams and excel. They just roll forward off the back of it and flood the attacking line, it can blitz teams. It's why they often win easy or not at all. It's almost like saints circa 2005 towards the end of millwards reign. Gte in, get out, 3 quick tries, game over and job done.
Leeds, well, they don't really seem to have any type of modus operandi. It's always just a case of big players, clicking and producing the plays, whatever the situation or plays turn out to be.
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| You can play it down all you like, and make up your own version of the day, but it doesn't change the fact that Leeds came out with pace and attack minded from the start, and went for it. Those mistakes from Wigan came from Leeds pressure and desire.
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