Flanagan apparently favourite to take over, also reports emerging that Furner is to sue for unfair dismissal

Flanagan and Griffin are arguable two of the best coaches in the game. Flanagan is left with no choice but Super League or change career, due to his ban. Both concentrate on player development and togetherness. Think one of them will end up at Wigan.

thats interesting about Furner suing his argument will be he had reasurances about the time he had to inprove things

This is a very interesting move.

The club have preached the need for patience but sack the coach after 3 months.

I'm not saying it's the wrong decision per se as on field performances hadn't improved but we need to be careful this doesn't set in motion a swing door approach to coaches. Long term success is always built out of stability.

Furner was their first choice only now he isn't. Need to get it right this time.

A good proportion of Wigan fans agree with you, but personally I think it doesn't give enough Wane anything like enough credit.

Maguire was the one who took us to the next level, no doubt, and the basic principles of how Wigan defended under Wane can be traced back to what he learned as his assistant. Madge, however had the good fortune to take over a team full of quality at a good age. In Wane's tenure, Wigan were losing stars to the NRL and Union at a rate of a couple at least per season (something Leeds were adept at avoiding during the same period) and Wane had to find a way to keep winning whilst increasingly having less and less to work with. If you look at the side who won the 2011 Challenge cup, and compare them with the pedigree of the teams that won either the 2016 or 2018 Grand Finals, it's like night and day. Very few stars in their pomp, instead a group of home-grown players and 'project players' plucked from obscurity, who succeeded in the main through the winning culture that Wane was so brilliant at developing & maintaining.

Eventually this caught up with the style of play, which was to be fair was heavily structured, if effective (Wane's first season had some brilliant attacking rugby, think he learned quickly about how to rein it in slightly from the two semi-final defeats to Leeds).

I understand that he's not the most popular man in Rugby League, but given available options I think Wane could be an absolute master-stroke.

I think it’s a terrible decision. The issue is not the coach. It’s the players. To sack 2 coaches in the space of a year is embarrassing for a club like Leeds and points to other issues.

Whilst people may not think McDermott or Furner were the best coaches in the game, they clearly were not the main cause of our poor performances.

Completely agree. Remember they slso didn’t perform for Sinfield/ Lowes.

As a Saints fan I’ve not watched as many Leeds games as everyone on here but I think it’s the right decision. In every Leeds game I’ve watched this season, your attack does look better but the defence has been that bad that I think it warrants the sacking of Furner alone. When a new coach comes in you expect to see some overall improvement and there hasn’t been any which is worrying, especially when you consider that 2 marquee players have been signed.

To add to that Furners record at Canberra was very questionable and there wasn’t really anything to suggest he was going to be a success. If you want a quicker fix but with hard to watch rugby then Wane’s your man, if you’ve got the patience to wait for success and entertaining rugby then someone like Powell would be ideal. Think this makes it clear that there isn’t much patience left so I would say Wane is the right man for the job. Whilst it’s nice not having to compete against Leeds for trophies, SL needs more than 2 good teams so I hope you sort out your problems quickly.

I hate this.
Even if my team are struggling at the moment... to give any coach the sack after such a short time is criminal, in my eyes.
Either the world is going slightly mad, and we are all constantly close to financial problems, or....and more likely in my opinion.... Furner's attitude has upset someone like Sinny.
I really hope that isn't the case, but I can imagine Furner telling the squad that they can't live on past glories, and that they need to work harder than ever to succeed.....

To be fair Brodie touched on things not being rtosy behind the scenes a few weeks ago with a particular mention about the unrest and unpopularity of furner

Unless we know what’s gone on we can only speculate.

What we do know is that there’s been no improvement on the pitch and that is what coaches get judged on, rightly or wrongly.

And what will be interesting is we will find out what these players are made of in the second half of the season, they’ve got nowhere to hide now.

I think it's utter madness. There wasn't a long term plan to get players in and beeded in before the likes of Peacock, Sinfield, Maggsy, Burrow et al retired. They have relied upon youngsters from the academy who lets be honest aren't upto it. A clear Gawwy tactic of doing it on the cheap. Him and Caddick will use the excuse of the ground refurb, but again it was falling down and a shambles. This another sign of them not wanting to spend money. Well, it's coming to fruition now.

The last couple of seasons you could see the discipline had gone in the club. All you saw on Social media was players going out drinking and 'oooo new shirt day, go check em out' etc. I don't expect the players to live like total monks or not have a social life. But when they're not delivering they need to be seen as putting effort in. There's something rotten in the club.

We know there is no leader on the pitch. I don't think Watkins was the correct choice as Captain and I know he had horrid luck with regards to his injury and now confidence is shot in the team.

Furner, yes the buck stops with him, but he's been made a total scapegoat.

The picture on social media of Rob Oates and JP on the a few weeks ago said much about the current malaise.

The whole club had gone from being very professional to completely unprofessional. This mess was always going to take a few years to clean up and getting trigger happy with the coach after 15 games won’t help that.

Hurrel has just tweeted thanking Furner for everything hes done for him

Agree with every word. As much as it pains me to say it, Wane would fit us like a glove right now.

He demands and gets aggression and toughness from his teams, somthing we'r crying out for.

He's the best in the british game at slowing the opponents Play the ball and attack down. Somthing thats killing us.

We'v got talent all over the Academy, he's brilliant at bringing youth through.

He's not my first choice but he certainly brings a lot of what we need and i wouldnt be dissapointed with him. If its any of Powell, Demitriu, Flanagan, Griffin or Wane, id be pretty happy.

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Watkins rightly accepts the players are to blame. Maybe now they might start to play?

I find it so strange that you would back a coach like Furner to the hilt with signings like Hurrell and Lolohea, who he’s been involved with previously, to then get shut so soon in to his reign. To now have to get a new coach in and potentially not have much room to make many squad changes to suit what he wants because money is tied up in Furners choices seems crazy.

Why they would give that backing to Furner, whilst Brian Mac seemed to have to make do at points is beyond me. Had McDermott been given money to sign two marquee players plus 2 or 3 others, then he may have had a better chance of rebuilding the side after the departures of all those stalwarts.

Wane would do a great job for Leeds. You do not win 3 grand finals, a challenge cup and a WCC solely on the back of another coaches foundations. I think it’s forgotten sometimes that he played a big part in laying those foundations anyway as Maguire assistant and from the work he’d done with the junior teams for years previously. He also didn’t have the luxury Maguire had in 2011 of being given three internationals from the Melbourne Storm to work with and instead he had to deal with departures of key personnel year in year out and he somehow managed to make sure we remained in the trophy hunt.

I think we’re seeing at Wigan now just how much his absence is being felt. I would hate for him to become the coach of Leeds because I’m convinced he’d win things for them. He would be a god send for all those young players Leeds had involved in the England academy series win for starters.

Absolutely correct.

Agree with all of that. Wane for me would be superb at this moment in our history. He would turn us into winners again. It will still take time to get us back to challenging for honours but I'm convinced we would see significant improvement

I've been reading stuff elsewhere that hes taking legal action saying he wanted to move players on and was refused also wanted to tear up Loloheas contract . I actually think GH is such a cheapskate that hes hoping Agar will take the team to a respectable position enough to warrant a permanent deal.

100%

I think the only possible caveat is that I'm not sure how well his approach would work straight away with a team without the quality or character required to be the best, if that's what the problem is at Leeds. The demands he makes on his players are massive, which is exactly what you need, but maybe that sort of shock therapy would be counter-productive to begin with for a team on its backside. The 'lesser' players that Wigan had in later years were still brought into the culture that had been there for years, lead by O'Loughlin & others, and then it was up to the new fella to step up. Not so easy to build a culture like that from scratch.

That said, totally agree with what you say, there's no doubt in my mind that he would be successful in the medium & long term at Leeds if he goes there. Hopefully his reputation as a knuckle-dragging thug who hates everything outside of a WN postcode will mean someone else gets the job!

Interesting from Sinfield when asked how the players have taken it he said something aling the lines that some who were close to him will be sad but theres a few who were not getting picked not so sad (or words to that effect)

Maybe Furner was reluctant to play academy players?

I too feel sorry for Furner who has been made the scapegoat.
The players who have not performed have got him the sack.
They should be careful what they wish for as some too many to mention have not delivered on the pitch and could find themselves on the scrapheap themselves when a new coach arrives.
True we were not playing anywhere near to where we should be playing even with the dross in our team and that could be down to the coach.
But the players need to take a good hard look in the mirror and start delivering.
Clearly players like Hurrel and possibly Merrin feel bad for Furner so let`s see how long they last in a Leeds shirt.
And unless a decent appointment is made we might find it hard to recruit other marquee players in the future not to mention a good coach.
If what Furner is saying is correct then either GH and or KS should not escape without blame for mis managing this situation and this club.