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| Quote ="tvoc"Does it really matter who Smith picked? In the end (and as predicted), they were just not up to it .... yet again.
I won't repeat what I called them last week in the build up but it's as true today as it was back then.
Another quality Smith post match Sky interview this week, what's that all about?'"
Well done with the prediction hope you had money on it like I did.
He didn't do a interview did he?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Well done with the prediction hope you had money on it like I did.
He didn't do a interview did he?'"
I did. My last £2.40 in the account on a 7/4 Wakey win & 2/1 Leeds win. Good going
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| Quote ="Wire_85"And back to the point I was making before Leeds fans mentioned for the 1,000 time they had injuries
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OK, I could do with it clarifying.
Quote It wasn't a "selection headache" as in Smith picking players better then them, he just picked fitter ones.'" He had options. He picked players he thought would be better for the game for reasons you, yourself have given. More match fit. Therefore, he picked better players.
So, for the 1000th time, you had options, we didn't. Cry me a river and get over it.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"He didn't do a interview did he?'"
No. Last week he couldn't bring himself to look into the camera at Odsal this week he went one better and didn't face the camera at all.
Would have been interesting to hear his reply when Hemmings asked the inevitable question.
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| I think Mathers sums it up well:
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wow tough day at the office, we blew a decent lead with our poor ruck area and discipline, a good team like Leeds take them chances... '"
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| Quote ="G1"OK, I could do with it clarifying.
He had options. He picked players he thought would be better for the game for reasons you, yourself have given. More match fit. Therefore, he picked better players.
So, for the 1000th time, you had options, we didn't. Cry me a river and get over it.'"
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| Quote ="tvoc"No. Last week he couldn't bring himself to look into the camera at Odsal this week he went one better and didn't face the camera at all.
Would have been interesting to hear his reply when Hemmings asked the inevitable question.'"
He never looks at the camera ever.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Ar$ed
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Quality rebuttal. Just like your team, it seems you have no heart to take on the big boys.
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| Nice try but not biting
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| Quote ="Wire_85"He never looks at the camera ever.'"
If you say so. Can't say I noticed the trait overly much during his four years as Leeds' coach or failing to present himself after a game ..... regardless of the result.
Even when on the end of a tonking at Knowsley Road.
I suspect it was a game that (not unreasonably) he fully expected to win and perhaps decided that not saying anything to the media at the point was a wise choice. I'd still have been interested to hear his thoughts though, so that was a pity.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"We scored 6 tries each and we won by 7. Had he kicked =#FF0040all his goals they would have won by 1 point.'"
Like I said.
Quote Warrington did lay on though, just the same as any other team depending on what was taking place at the time.'"
Not in any way like Wigan for example, who pile 4 men into the tackle, wrestle, then peel off one by one watching the ref.
Quote I also dissagree on Warrington not needing to panic. '"
I'm interested to know how "panicking" helps a sporting team that's looking likely to finish in the top 2 in it's league?
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| Quote ="tvoc"If you say so. Can't say I noticed the trait overly much during his four years as Leeds' coach or failing
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I have to say I have. He does not generally always look at the camera during interviews after matches. As England coach and Leeds coach he was the same as I recall. I think he looks less at the camera the more unhappy with a result he is though.
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| Quote ="tvoc"If you say so. Can't say I noticed the trait overly much during his four years as Leeds' coach or failing to present himself after a game ..... regardless of the result.
Even when on the end of a tonking at Knowsley Road.
I suspect it was a game that (not unreasonably) he fully expected to win and perhaps decided that not saying anything to the media at the point was a wise choice. I'd still have been interested to hear his thoughts though, so that was a pity.'"
He never makes much eye contact with the person he is talking to either.
[urlhttp://www.warringtonwolves.org/tv/?v=117[/url
Heres his thoughts on the game.
Quote We are disappointed with the result but Leeds deserved it today,” said Smith.
“I enjoyed it as a match in many ways and they had their tactics, exploited some areas that were quite obvious today and stuck to it.
“We had ours and stuck to them at times and exploited areas ourselves but they just did it a little bit better than us today.”
“I don’t think we were out enthused, both teams tried hard in tough conditions and both were on top for a while.
“Last week we were out enthused but that isn’t what happened today, as both teams were in control, they just probably timed theirs a bit better.”
But the former England coach believes his side will have to toughen up defensively if they are to challenge for top honours this season.
He said: “We’ll have to toughen up or you become the ‘nearlys and almosts’ and those kind of words so we have to go away and work on that.
“We scored plenty of points and you should really be winning games in which you score thirty points, but not when you concede that many.
“Defensively we leaked too many and the ruck area needs to toughen up and we know we need to work on that.
“If we do, teams hopefully wont be able to exploit us in that area as we’ll be working very hard on it.”
But he finished by stating that his side were their own worst enemy today, and allowed Leeds the chance to pile on the pressure in the second half.
“We gave way too many penalties away, and runs of penalties, not just the overall amount in the game but one after the other and that hurts you,” he said. '"
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| Right here's how i saw it
Wire better first half Leeds better second half
Childs couple of mistakes but generally good performance
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Game finished look forward to the next one.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Could Tony Smith finally be about to coach a SL side to a victory against Leeds?'"
<FX: cough>
Er..........
12th July 2003
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| Quote ="DHM"I'm interested to know how "panicking" helps a sporting team that's =#FF0000looking likely to finish in the top 2 in it's league?'"
All other things being equal, level with St Helens and still to play St Helens (and Wigan away.) Warrington have a solid third written all over them at the moment ...... if they don't implode.
And thanks to Wire_85 for Smith's aftermatch thoughts.
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| Quote ="DHM"Like I said.'"
I'm been pedantic, but actually you didn't. You said had he kicked =#FF0000some of his goals, which would not usually imply all.
Quote ="DHM"Not in any way like Wigan for example, who pile 4 men into the tackle, wrestle, then peel off one by one watching the ref.'"
I don't think they go out with the set tactic of doing that like Wigan do, so yes I agree. But they were still doing it plenty of times when it was required, just like any other team.
Quote ="DHM"I'm interested to know how "panicking" helps a sporting team that's looking likely to finish in the top 2 in it's league?'"
My wrong choice of word, accepted. I was just repeating what you put, and took your wording of panic to mean not to worry. But I would say Warrington should worry that they have been unable to match the bigger teams when it's mattered.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Right here's how i saw it
Wire better first half Leeds better second half
Childs couple of mistakes but generally good performance
Leeds 2 points, Wire 0 points
Game finished look forward to the next one.'"
Insightful;. Thanks for sharing.
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| Quote ="G1"Insightful;. Thanks for sharing.'"
No problem, it's always worth it, especially when someone of such high stature as yourself takes the time to reply with equally insightful comments
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| Quote ="Gotcha" But I would say Warrington should worry that they have been unable to match the bigger teams when it's mattered.'"
Schoolboy error.
If you've followed the thread so far you can't have failed to notice how Warrington fans don't appear to think that any losses to their likely season end contenders will have any impact when the vital games come around.
Afterall they have a pretty good record V Salford this season.
I think it's called burying your head in the sand personally but what would I know after only watching Leeds do the same thing for the vast majority of the past forty plus years.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"No problem, it's always worth it, especially when someone of such high stature as yourself takes the time to reply with equally insightful comments
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| Quote ="tvoc"Schoolboy error.
If you've followed the thread so far you can't have failed to notice how Warrington fans don't appear to think that any losses to their likely season end contenders will have any impact when the vital games come around.
Afterall they have a pretty good record V Salford this season.
I think it's called burying your head in the sand personally but what would I know after only watching Leeds do the same thing for the vast majority of the past forty plus years.'"
Great point.
We all know how Smith analyses fine details. So he will note this pattern that has formed so far this season.
And how does he swing it the other way?
Wire have made great strides no doubt, but questions about their ability to win the big games and finish stuff off still remains.
They got the monkey off the back last year with the CC. They still have another one to shift later in the year.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"They got the monkey off the back last year with the CC.'"
Not so sure - Saints knocked out Leeds, Hudds knocked out Saints.
They will have to beat one or both in the playoffs - nobody is going to do that job for them.
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