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| For me it has to be his refusal to take the 2 in the challenge cup final at Cardiff in 2003 to tie the scores
Instead your team went for glory and we held on to win the cup
That is my favourite Kevin Sinfield moment of all time
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| Quote ="Andy R"In a career that has displayed both the longevity and consistency that Kevin's has it is hard to identify one or two individual moments. His career as a whole will go down in history as one of, if not the, finest in Leeds' existence.'"
This, in total agreement with. I don't think I will see a better player for my club, or at least influential, in my lifetime.
I don't agree that he should have an open ended contract now, and really hope he uses his head, and goes out at the right time, to ensure that the legend status he has is not forgotten.
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| Quote ="roger daly"For me it has to be his refusal to take the 2 in the challenge cup final at Cardiff in 2003 to tie the scores
Instead your team went for glory and we held on to win the cup
That is my favourite Kevin Sinfield moment of all time'"
That's one of my favourite Sinfield moments too.
It gave him the drive and determination to so thoroughly dominate your team and the league for the next 10 years.
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| Quote ="roger daly"For me it has to be his refusal to take the 2 in the challenge cup final at Cardiff in 2003 to tie the scores
Instead your team went for glory and we held on to win the cup
That is my favourite Kevin Sinfield moment of all time'"
Ten years ago that. How time flies. Been a fantastic ten years since hasn't it?
Well, it has for Kev and the Rhinos.
Plenty of Championships won since then, no salary cap breaches and no financial meltdowns.
Happy days.
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| Ha ha I hope your not trying to pick on a Bulls fan
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| Quote ="roger daly"Ha ha I hope your not trying to pick on a Bulls fan'"
It was a retro thing. Trying to remember what it felt like when you were our rivals, let alone our superiors and we used to argue with Bulls fans rather than throw coins in a bucket to help 'em out.
It felt nostalgic but now I just feel guilty.
Sorry.
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| It all comes in cycles G1,we will have our day again
Lets hope you are not in our position in the near future
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| Quote ="roger daly"It all comes in cycles G1,we will have our day again
Lets hope you are not in our position in the near future'"
Nothing to do with cycles. It's all about management. You do it right, you stay at the top. You do it wrong you fall from grace.
Cycles is something posters sillily trot out now and again.
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| Quote ="roger daly"It all comes in cycles G1,we will have our day again
Lets hope you are not in our position in the near future'"
We weren't far off in 1996 mate.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Nothing to do with cycles. It's all about management. You do it right, you stay at the top. You do it wrong you fall from grace.
Cycles is something posters sillily trot out now and again.'"
An interesting aspiration.
Yet history shows us it does come in cycles.
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| Quote ="G1"An interesting aspiration.
Yet history shows us it does come in cycles.'"
History shows nothing of the sort, especially in any form of sport.
It's a bloody big cycle for the likes of Dewsbury, Featherstone, and Leigh, if it did have any truth to it.
Management is what provides a successfull sporting organisation, not the time of the month (sorry year, decade, century).
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| That's a valid point regarding the teams you mentioned, I would like to think the Bulls are not in that group.
Take Saints as another example,they have not dropped off anywhere near as much as us,but they have had to take a step back before going forward again and no doubt their time will come again in the next few years
Agreed about management at a club been the foundation to build from,hopefully the management we have now will be better than the last shower,caisley and hood
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| Quote ="Gotcha"History shows nothing of the sort, especially in any form of sport.
It's a bloody big cycle for the likes of Dewsbury, Featherstone, and Leigh, if it did have any truth to it.
Management is what provides a successfull sporting organisation, not the time of the month (sorry year, decade, century).'"
Management changes. It's a bloody good job for Leeds it changed in 1997 or who knows where we would be in our cycle.
It's also been a big cycle for Huddersfield but they're top of the table now.
Wigan were once relegated you know?
Leeds escpaed relegation on points difference.
You have named teams that have enjoyed success in the past but no longer do. To prove your point you need to name a team that has been consistently successful throughout it's entire history. Go for it.
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Quote ="G1"Management changes. It's a bloody good job for Leeds it changed in 1997 or who knows where we would be in our cycle.
It's also been a big cycle for Huddersfield but they're top of the table now.
Wigan were once relegated you know?
Leeds escpaed relegation on points difference.
You have named teams that have enjoyed success in the past but no longer do. To prove your point you need to name a team that has been consistently successful throughout it's entire history. Go for it.'"
Why would I need to do that Gareth? you have already just stated my argument, backing it up. Management is what changes to success. Nothing to do with Cycles. If you don't get it right managing something, you will never come back round.
The times where teams fall from grace, is the times changes are made and are wrong. The times teams have sucess is when the right foundations are put in place and a focus on them. Do it right and it will continue.
Saying things are cyclical is a media statement, and usually trotted out by the British and the Aussies only.
This is a pretty good read on Britains sporting success over last 10 years, and inparticular why it has happened
www.ft.com/cms/s/2/819f5322-f3c3 ... abdc0.html
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It's also been a big cycle for Huddersfield but they're top of the table now.
Wigan were once relegated you know?
Leeds escpaed relegation on points difference.
You have named teams that have enjoyed success in the past but no longer do. To prove your point you need to name a team that has been consistently successful throughout it's entire history. Go for it.'"
Why would I need to do that Gareth? you have already just stated my argument, backing it up. Management is what changes to success. Nothing to do with Cycles. If you don't get it right managing something, you will never come back round.
The times where teams fall from grace, is the times changes are made and are wrong. The times teams have sucess is when the right foundations are put in place and a focus on them. Do it right and it will continue.
Saying things are cyclical is a media statement, and usually trotted out by the British and the Aussies only.
This is a pretty good read on Britains sporting success over last 10 years, and inparticular why it has happened
www.ft.com/cms/s/2/819f5322-f3c3 ... abdc0.html
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| I'm not suggesting the cycle of time is what causes the change in fortunes. The cycle of time is what bring the changes in management and decision making fthat leads to the changes in fortunes.
It's inevitable.
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| Quote ="G1"I'm not suggesting the cycle of time is what causes the change in fortunes. The cycle of time is what bring the changes in management and decision making fthat leads to the changes in fortunes.
It's inevitable.'"
The traditional cyclical nature of sporting success has been drastically reduced IMO since money began to play such a role in professional sport.
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| Quote ="roger daly"It all comes in cycles G1,we will have our day again
Lets hope you are not in our position in the near future'"
Cycles of bankruptcy and closures and reformation, Bradford have got the monopoly on it.How many times since 1895 have they closed ,gone bust,reformed under another name?Last year out again with the begging bowl and the this year the Bradford fans still have the mischief to have a go at Leeds management.The begging bowl option has gone now.
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| Feel the flow. It's circular, like a carousel. You pay your quarter you get on the horse. It goes up and down, and also around. With the music, the flow. All good things.
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| Anyway back on topic.I think Kevin will make at least 80 more apps hopefully more
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| I don't agree with him getting the golden boot but he has been one hell of a player for Leeds over the last decade. If he hadn't had a bad day with the boot in the '11 cup final I reckon you would have beaten us. He tore us apart in both semis last year. Hope he brings his A game for England, captaining us to World Cup glory would give him true legendary status
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I don't agree with him getting the golden boot '"
That doesn't really matter. He's got it.
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| Most of them have been covered. If pushed id plump for the 2003 semi....as much for the guy next to me, who got up and stomped up the stairs at Huddersfield confidently declaring "he wont bloody kick this. I'm off", only to be sat back in his sat looking sheepish 2 minutes later.
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