Fair enough from the marketing POV and maybe it will bring in revenue that way but from a playing POV I hate the game.

It's a massive distraction for both teams and I'm sure if asked, the players would prefer it played at a different time of year. We will have players who have played in 3 full games up against a set of players who played 10 minutes against Cronulla last week. It's just a stupid concept as it is and i'd rather Leeds just concentrate on the League at this point without having to play a glorified trial meaning we have to back up our players on origin duty later in the season.

Best product in the World? There's some deluded people on these boards if you think one uneven game means shiz when it comes to comparing the 2 Leagues.

We are 5 weeks ahead of them as far as preparation goes. That's why the games have been so close in the last few years.

Harrigan, that you value the LLS at all, let alone in preference to the WCC makes me think you have that half a brain you refer to.

The LLS is pointless and worthless. Can you remember last October?

Who did wigan play in the WCC last year and what was the score?

You've been a right mardy a** with me recently



In it's current format it's below the LLS which I dont rate very highly at all. What's good about the LLS though is that it gives reward for the team that goes good through the regular rounds.

Look, to me the SL is the be all and end all of competitions available to us in the domestic game and 2 points on the ladder is more important than a win in an uneven trial. I go to these WCC games but I have never walked away disappointed that we have lost and never really celebrated that we have won. I have applauded good tries from both teams and it's usually a good exibhition game. I just go because its a chance to see players I wouldn't otherwise see unless I was over there.

Saints and Wigan lost by 6 I think.

Moi?

I do find myself disagreeing with you a lot lately.

You need to approach this like the NFL. The regular rounds are no more than a qualifying phase. The reward for league placing is advantages in the playoffs.

We agree. However, league placings and LLS are not a SL title. Anyone watching Leeds these last few years should get that,

To even compete in this game you have to win SL, you know, the "be all and end all". It's a game between our champions and the champions from the best RL competition in the world. yes, there are minor issues with the time of year and venue but, so what. If a game like this doesn't excite you, or excites you less than a LLS, I think you have your priorities screwed up, with respect.

You can't be right all the time old man





Difference is that the NFL doesnt have even schedules. We play every team we are competing against home and away.



Yeah, as I said, I dont rate the LLS but I want us to win every SL game we play because it gives us more of an advantage in the playoffs... not that we need it.



I agree and I like the concept of the WCC, just not like this. It really needs to be moved to a time when both teams can be more competitive and where it isn't a distraction to the teams competing when preparing for their respective leagues.



It doesn't excite me more than winning a LLS. I just feel the LLS represents a bigger achievement than winning this game in its current state.

No no, I'd rather beat Wigan at Wigan

Why can't we win both Wigan is a 4 pointer and may give us the edge over them for future games.

If Kev's injury is serious play Danny and Rob at 6 and 7 with Ablett or Clarkson at loose.

Cheeky young bugger.
And we play them for what? We play them for qualifying positions i the playoffs, just like the NFL.

There's the word "leagues". It's no distraction to teams preparing to win their respective "competitions" because doing that requires hitting form in the playoffs and games played in February have little impact upon that.
I'd personally scrap the meaningless LLS because it detracts frmo te "be all and end all" SL championship.

If it saves us from the relentless gloating we had last year after they thrashed us by two points, I would tend to agree. Can't imagine the smug barstwards could be as bad this year though (what am I thinking

of course they can).

Still, having less than half a brain I'd prefer to see us win the WCC, although I'm struggling to see how the two are mutually exclusive. That "less than half a brain " I guess.

Each to there own but I think you are probably in an overall minority among leeds fans there. We still have 25 more matches to try and win the league after the Wigan game, there are no second chances in the WCC. Granted we wont get any credit for winning it until its played in australia the week after the Grand Finals when its a true reflection of the 2 GF winning sides.

The WCC is the biggest club match ever to be played at Headingley and although I want Leeds to win every game they play i would always prioritise the bigger games.

I do. Leeds were rightly crowned Champions in 2011 but did so without recording a win V Wigan over the course of the season and that remains a regret, just as it would have been without the wins V Warrington and St Helens in the Play-Offs.



Could happen to any player in any game they play or in any training session they take part in. As I said earlier if he's properly injured he shouldn't play but if he isn't he should.



The next game after Wigan isn't Widnes it's the WCC and Leeds should be using any advantage they can find in preparation for that more important encounter. How many fans don't want to see 'World Club Champions' and for a third time after their team's name, something Bradford and Wigan fans already enjoy. Having a settled side with match practise under it's belt could be crucial. That won't be aided by chopping, changing and resting players in the game that precedes it.



I'm not interested in giving anyone a good game, I'm more interested in taking the points on offer. Why make an already difficult task even harder?

If not beating Wigan means winning the grand final I would take that every time. Got to look at the bigger picture

Resting players for a perceived greater prize can always backfire of course. Didn't Webb miss a GF for a back injury received in a domestic accident ?

Rest Sinfield, lose the two points at Wigan and he could conceivably yet then miss the WCC because of a similar unfortunate incident or training mishap.

Double whammy

Ok, so now you don't agree that the world club champions get to call themselves the world club champions.

If only you had half a brain like me

Winning the WCC brings a massive amount of kudos to the club and could well attract more long term fans. A lot of the younger generation are swayed by cups and titles and the tag "World champions" would have the little fellas wetting their underwear and asking Daddy to take them to see the World Champs every week. It's happened at Football clubs for years, kids in Man Utd shirts, Chelsea and Arsenal right across the country, all on the back of success and titles. I personally have spoken to lads in the last week born outside Leeds that support their hometown football teams (man city and sheff weds) but are now massive rhinos fans as well. Winning the WCC can only enhance our already burgeoning profile no end. The Manly game is absolutely massive as far as I'm concerned.

I'm with tvoc on this one. We go there to win, and approach it no differently to any other game. If they're fit they play, if they're not they don't.

For me the prestige of the trophies is like this GF > CC > WCC > LL.

Therefore if there were to be any priority calls I would say the WCC take priority, plus we also have 25 more games to win the LL even if we do hold something back at Wigan.

However, I would see teh Wigan game as a perfect warm up for the Manly game. Despite their poor end to 2011, they are still a top team, and will provide a good test. However, win lose or draw, we'll be better prepared by having a good scrap with them rather than sending a weakened team over