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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"For the record it wasn't a trolling attempt and another thing mate I don't see Bradford as a club in decline for one minute after the fact that we've sold over 10,500 season tickets to press, so how do you view this as an example of a club going into decline at an unstoppable rate?'"
Because you sold them for next to nothing, and promised that all will be different. The problem you'll have is that in selling them so cheap, people don't feel like they're wasting money if they don't turn up. Last season you only had a home attendance of over 10,500 ONCE (No prizes for guessing it was vs. Leeds!)
So lets look at the evidence....
Game 1 at Odsal, Feb 14th vs. Saints: 10,165. Not a bad attempt at an attendance, it's cold, it's Valentines Day, we can forgive it been a bit lower. Now here lies the problem... you get drummed. 6-38. Ouch! So the fans have managed to somehow convince the Mrs. that braving the snow, and standing out in the freezing cold, on Valentines Day is a good idea... then BAM! They have to watch that dross.
What happens next?? A local team comes to town (Feb 19th vs. Cas) but this time the Mrs says... "NO WAY! It was sh[ii[/ite last week!" so what happens??... 8,019.
It goes on! Even the famously well followed Hull KR & Wire only manage to pull 9,234 and 8,128 respectively.
The point I'm making is this... season ticket sales or not... if you get the fans there, and they have to watch poor Rugby, they won't come the following week (ESPECIALLY when they've paid next to nothing for the season ticket in the first place).
If the season ticket sales are true, and none of us have any reason to doubt that, then there's no reason why you shouldn't have a home attendance of AT THE VERY LEAST 10,500 every single game. Right??? How about we check back here in a years time and see if that happened.
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Just for information and while I can't remember the exact numbers I know roughly what they are from the South Stand development meetings, last year we sold around 10,700 ADULT season tickets and this year they have target 12,000 ADULT season tickets. With Senior and Junior season tickets last years total season ticket sales were just short of 13,000 IIRC.
Shall we do some quick maths. Now some of those tickets will be at higher North Stand, Paddock and Carnegie Stand rates as will some of your 10,500 season ticket sales of course, but as we have more seats than the Bulls lets keep it simple. For the maths lets assume the base rate sales of £60 Bulls and £200 (Bronze) for the Rhinos. I will even assume we only sell 10,500 for this exercise!
Bulls - £60.00 x 10,500 = £630,000.00
Rhinos - £200.00 x 10,500 = £2,100,000.00
Hmmm, a very basic short fall of a cool £1,470,000.00 in annual fixed season ticket income!
If you can find another £1m you could just spend up to the Salary Cap limit... without paying anyone else of course!
Sorry, who is the club in decline?
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| Mick...
You could sell a million Aston Martins if you sold them for a pound.
Wouldn't make you a millionaire though would it?
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"I read into the rapid departure of McLennan that Gary Hetherington was hacked off by the release of Matt Diskin and a row ensued.
This row and more surprising saw supporters favourite Francis Cummins leave the club after so many years.'"
OMG. It's just as well you don't believe any of that really.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"Mick...
You could sell a million Aston Martins if you sold them for a pound.
Wouldn't make you a millionaire though would it?
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It would if you stole them.
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| Quote ="tvoc"OMG. It's just as well you don't believe any of that really.'"
You're alive?
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| Just about.
I knew a Sam Buca once, any relation?
Still trying to avoid this place (give everyone a rest) for the close season but events are making it more difficult than usual this year.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Just about.
I knew a Sam Buca once, any relation?
Still trying to avoid this place (give everyone a rest) for the close season but events are making it more difficult than usual this year.'"
I hold no ties with the previous Sam Buca having found out what he was banned for
I thought you were in hibernation until February?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Are you SURE he's not a clone of Damo?'"
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Ok I have a bit of explaining to do..
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!!
MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Ok I have a bit of explaining to do..
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Two like minded dillusional brothers?
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| My friend who is a long time northern/bulls fan makes me laugh as he seems to have a similar point of view to the poster. He has spent years slagging off cummings as a coach and a player as he has disco and now they the new messias!
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| Quote ="Ferdy"My friend who is a long time northern/bulls fan makes me laugh as he seems to have a similar point of view to the poster. He has spent years slagging off cummings as a coach and a player as he has disco and now they the new messias!'"
but we know different do'nt we?
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"but we know different do'nt we?
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That we do!
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Me and Damo have a love hate relationship
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I know. I hate shiny trousers anyway.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"I would say that tonight is good case evidence
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Come back when you've won a match Mick.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"I would say that tonight is good case evidence
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its getting tedious giving you the stock reply Mick,so here it comes from another angle.
How can a club be in decline when it is building a completely new stand, redeveloping the other, building a state of the art screen scoreboard,laying a new pitch,All financed by the club itself,not council money,no sugar daddy,no community thing,Its all financed by the club itself not by a soccer chairman either.So if this great super league Marquie club is in decline what does that say about the rest?
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| losing to a team that play in that kit
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