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he is a crock these days, i would steer well clear.
We need to be going all out for Farah if there is an incling of a chance.
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he is a crock these days, i would steer well clear.
We need to be going all out for Farah if there is an incling of a chance.
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| 300k is fanciful, he's been extremely poor this year and has a record of on and off-field disciplinary issues.
Added to the fact it's not a good time of year as most clubs will be at or close yo the salary cap, Leeds will be lucky to offload him at all.
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| I know for a fact he was days from being sacked last season. The only reason he wasn't was that GH didn't want a rival taking him on a free.
As it happens, he turned it round and ended the season really well.
Not spoken to my source today so total speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the personal issues have reared their head again.
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| Someone will go for him as they've seen what he CAN do (though not what he's doing at the moment). £300k is a lot though (wasn't that what Tomkins went for?)
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"300k is fanciful, he's been extremely poor this year and has a record of on and off-field disciplinary issues.
Added to the fact it's not a good time of year as most clubs will be at or close yo the salary cap, Leeds will be lucky to offload him at all.'"
Hahaha do you realise how much these NRL clubs make?
There will be more than a few who would be willing to pay that for an England fullback regardless of form
A few clubs could afford to pay that for him to be their second string fullback with the possibility of him coming good
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| Quote ="tony1983"I know for a fact he was days from being sacked last season. The only reason he wasn't was that GH didn't want a rival taking him on a free.
As it happens, he turned it round and ended the season really well.
Not spoken to my source today so total speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the personal issues have reared their head again.'"
But obviously not in the way you think. Make it clear to you, Zak is the one who asked to leave, and there is a perfectly understandable personal reason. He had an offer to go straight away, but Leeds could not agree a swap deal with the player they wanted.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Before the idiots start posting usual gash, there is a reason for why Leeds have agreed, why Zak has asked to leave, and why it is NRL. So before trolls start posting rubbish, think before you post.'"
If the Club have done the right thing here to accommodate genuine personal reasons for example should they get some credit for this?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Before the idiots start posting usual gash, there is a reason for why Leeds have agreed, why Zak has asked to leave, and why it is NRL. So before trolls start posting rubbish, think before you post.'"
I'm quite sure you know full well some (if not all) of the reasons why it's in the best interests of the club to get rid of him and for both parties to finally move on.
Feel free to keep spinning it as Hardaker being the architect of the move.
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| Quote ="HRS Rhino"Someone will go for him as they've seen what he CAN do (though not what he's doing at the moment). £300k is a lot though (wasn't that what Tomkins went for?)'"
Tomkins went for 700k and his salary was around 500k per year (around $1 mill)
Given that you would say Hardaker is a steal!
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| Quote ="Gotcha"But obviously not in the way you think. Make it clear to you, Zak is the one who asked to leave, and there is a perfectly understandable personal reason. He had an offer to go straight away, but Leeds could not agree a swap deal with the player they wanted.'"
Interesting. If that is the case, then best for all parties to move on. And credit to the club I guess.
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| Quote ="William Eve"I'm quite sure you know full well some (if not all) of the reasons why it's in the best interests of the club to get rid of him and for both parties to finally move on.
Feel free to keep spinning it as Hardaker being the architect of the move.'"
I can assure you you are wrong here. If you find out the reason, you will, like anyone else understand fully. Might not be dissapointment, but you will still understand.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"If the Club have done the right thing here to accommodate genuine personal reasons for example should they get some credit for this?'"
Of course they do. There is a reason, the club have understood that, and are losing out because of it. The club have tried all they can to persuade different. They deserve nothing but credit for backing him.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"But obviously not in the way you think. Make it clear to you, Zak is the one who asked to leave, and there is a perfectly understandable personal reason. He had an offer to go straight away, but Leeds could not agree a swap deal with the player they wanted.'"
Who's the player we wanted? Surely you can reveal that seeing as the move didn't come off.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Tomkins went for 700k and his salary was around 500k per year (around $1 mill)
Given that you would say Hardaker is a steal!'"
I always get my 3's and 7's confused, except when Robbie and Kallum are standing next to each other...
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| Don't know why you feel the need to be so secretive Gotcha - you're not doing anyone any favours
Edited - I'll pm you gotcha.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Of course they do. There is a reason, the club have understood that, and are losing out because of it. The club have tried all they can to persuade different. They deserve nothing but credit for backing him.'"
Can this reason in any way explain why some players have lost confidence and if so is that not just another off field problem the coach has had to cope with?
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Can this reason in any way explain why some players have lost confidence and if so is that not just another off field problem the coach has had to cope with?'"
Nothing to do with others.
Although the other player who asked to end his contract could be attributed to that.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I can assure you you are wrong here. If you find out the reason, you will, like anyone else understand fully. Might not be dissapointment, but you will still understand.'"
There was always going to be a day of reckoning between the club and the player.
You know that as well.
I'm surprised it's taken this long.
The club didn't mess about this long in the past. Just ask Bobbie Goulding.
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| Quote ="tony1983"He'll be a very lucky boy to get an NRL gig.'"
Correct, and no NRL club will fork out £300k for him.
And which SL club would fork out the same?
It would have to be a RU club with money to burn.
There'll be no financial killing made like when Harris was sold to Welsh RU.
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| Hang on is this for next season or is he requesting to go asap?
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| Quote ="tony1983"He'll be a very lucky boy to get an NRL gig.'"
Dont talk rubbish
If the current MofS cant get a gig in the NRL then SL might as well pack in all together
Hardaker should choose wisely though, he should go to a team that actually needs him or could end up not getting a fair crack like Burgess at the Roosters
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Hang on is this for next season or is he requesting to go asap?'"
If there are genuinely personal reasons for him to go to aus, it surely can't benefit him to stay longer than he has to? And if this is the case, do we i) not play him when fit as his hearts not in it, or ii) play him and hope he plays well so his value doesn't drop?
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| £300k is only the asking price remember. If an NRL club are interested, they would probably pay £100-£200k fee, then recoup some of this by paying slightly less in wages, over a few years, than if he were a free agent.
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Dont talk rubbish
If the current MofS cant get a gig in the NRL then SL might as well pack in all together
Hardaker should choose wisely though, he should go to a team that actually needs him or could end up not getting a fair crack like Burgess at the Roosters'"
Yeah I'm sure they will all be queuing up. Not every day you get to pick up a player from the bottom placed Super League team. Whatever way you look at it, £300k would be a gamble for any team, never mind an NRL side.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"£300k is only the asking price remember. If an NRL club are interested, they would probably pay £100-£200k fee, then recoup some of this by paying slightly less in wages, over a few years, than if he were a free agent.'"
You mean like what Canterbury paid Leeds for homesick Greg Eastwood?
Translation: NOTHING
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