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| Quote ="chapylad"Finally got on here after the HTTP 500 error kept me off for a day.
Agree with Trebor that Summerville, Gnonto and Rutter were poor along with Piroe who didn`t get in the game.
Rodon probably the only one who really stood out and had he passed to Piroe when he was in the box I think we go on to win that game.
James unlucky and added the pace we lacked all game.
Whilst we had what 70+ possession most of it was from passing sideways or backwards as once again Southampton got the tactics right and our form against Norwich deserted us.
I would try and get Roberts and Rodon signed up first and foremost and look for a McLean type midfielder.
Summerville needs moving on and so does Gnonto.
We need to start making our signings early and get them all together pre season.
We missed out on promotion dues to our failings in the last 9 games and it was always going to be difficult the way Southampton play in a one off game.'"
Agree pal. need to get on with business straight away
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| Really disappointing result but not really shocked.
Southampton more clinical when it mattered, really poor mistake from Ampadu for the goal but hes been pretty solid all season so can forgive him for that.
Farke really needs a plan b for when teams are sat back defending well, and we really need to be more of a threat at set pieces.
Think we should be cashing in on Gnonto, Summerville, Meslier, and moving on players like Firpo and Bamford.
I'd like to see Joseph get more minutes next year, potentially have Rutter to play as a winger and bring in a 10.
We also need to sort out the LB and RB situation.
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| Quote ="leedsbarmyarmy"Really disappointing result but not really shocked.
Southampton more clinical when it mattered, really poor mistake from Ampadu for the goal but hes been pretty solid all season so can forgive him for that.
Farke really needs a plan b for when teams are sat back defending well, and we really need to be more of a threat at set pieces.
Think we should be cashing in on Gnonto, Summerville, Meslier, and moving on players like Firpo and Bamford.
I'd like to see Joseph get more minutes next year, potentially have Rutter to play as a winger and bring in a 10.
We also need to sort out the LB and RB situation.'"
Agree with all of that and whilst I think Ampadu/Rodon is a very good central defensive partnership.
I would like to see a Tarkowski type player at the back alongside Rodon freeing up Ampadu in the middle alongside someone like McLean from Norwich.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"if you buy a 10, possibly chair, where does rutter play? wide left? the majority will still be here. with the right additions and a full pre season I think we will be stronger next year.
as good as summerville is he isnt a team player. I wont be sorry to lose him for £35-£40M'"
£35m - be lucky to get £20m - no way he is £40m player. Archie Gray - I could see £40m his potential is so much greater. Summerville must already have a move lined up given his abject lack of effort in the last few weeks.
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| Leeds need more from midfield - the current two provide nothing going forward - even in the dying minutes when a goal is needed Gruev is passing backwards. Kamara isn't capable of shooting at goal - need an attacking midfielder or is Gray going to fill that role.
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| I agree about midfield as both Gruev and Kamara are more defence minded looking after the back 4.
Maybe if we went 433 and put an attacking midfielder in there it would help.
Not sure Gray is the answer to the attacking midfield role though.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Finally got on here after the HTTP 500 error kept me off for a day.
Agree with Trebor that Summerville, Gnonto and Rutter were poor along with Piroe who didn`t get in the game.
Rodon probably the only one who really stood out and had he passed to Piroe when he was in the box I think we go on to win that game.
James unlucky and added the pace we lacked all game.
Whilst we had what 70+ possession most of it was from passing sideways or backwards as once again Southampton got the tactics right and our form against Norwich deserted us.
I would try and get Roberts and Rodon signed up first and foremost and look for a McLean type midfielder.
Summerville needs moving on and so does Gnonto.
We need to start making our signings early and get them all together pre season.
We missed out on promotion dues to our failings in the last 9 games and it was always going to be difficult the way Southampton play in a one off game.'"
Agree with this but I'd add it wasn't just the end of the season that cost us. The shambolic start put us behind the pack and we did amazingly well to come back into it. Got to try and get business done as early as possible, but with the Euros, it always puts things back as teams look for signings there. BUT, I don't doubt that the 49ers were already planning for going up and staying in the Champ, so they've no doubt got targets worked out. Guess alot depends on what we get for those leaving.
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| And we have to pay £70 million out in transfers by June 30th so outgoings are certainly going to be key to what we can bring in.
I reckon we will get 2 or 3 loan signings hopefully with the experience I think we are lacking.
At the end of the day with 90 points and considering how we started and how we finished the season it was a remarkable achievement.
Did anyone listen to Talk Sport on Monday?
A scouser Leeds United fan apparently saying if we stick with Farke next season we will be in Division 1 the season after.
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| Rumours that Red Bull have agreed a huge sponsorship deal with Leeds, which is allegedly the biggest in the history of the EFL .
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| united airlines mentioned too. 49Rs are very switched on. done a lot of upgrades behind the events. brought in some top people to deal with sponsors, money, recruitment eyc
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| Red bull it is
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| I wonder how some fans feel about having Red on the shirt
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| I thought that too although red kite sponsored us in league 1
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| We've finally got that red bull money
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| been rumoured for at least 10 years!!!
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| Must admit, I did check the date to make sure it wasnt an April fools. Been a LONG time coming.
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| In the short term it’s good, it should grease the financial wheels.
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| depends if they want to go further i guess
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| Great deal for the club imo. And because it’s a shirt sponsor too it’s massively helps P&S compliance. Marathe has said it’ll make a difference in player retention too for this season coming. If we go up it will also give us further clout to what is already a significant backing
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| So the transfer window opening is nearly upon us. What do we reckon as incomings and retentions then chaps?
Seen loads of chatter about bobby decordova-reid being of serious interest to Leeds - replacing Gnonto or Summerville. He'd be very handy in the championship. anyone hearing anything else?
Spurs have triggered auto 1 year extension for Rodon so they get a fee. Would like to see that deal definitely done. They won't loan him again though so we need to be careful with the fee especially if we need to replace 2 or 3.
We need probably 2 wingers at least, Jaidon Anthony will be back with Bournemouth (i'd like him back on loan personally - i think he may add a fair bit more next season given the chance) and if we sell both Gnonto and Summerville that leaves us very short and will need some goals being replaced... I'd like to see us try get Jack Clarke... he'd almost certainly want to come back surely... totally different club now and he's one of the best players in the championship and has a goal threat..
other than that we need to bring in a right back and another centre back with Cooper going. I'm sure Cresswell may leave also.. can;t see Gray going - i don't think the lad will want to and now we have additional cash we don't need to sell if a big offer comes in.
then what do we do with regards to strikers... Piroe doesn't seem to work at 9 in Farke's system.. Bamford is too injury prone.. the number 10 position needs looking at too, we need more goals from there
some work to be done that's for sure.
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| no chance of clarke. dont think rodon either. lad from Fulham would be a great signing. need a RB, 2 x RCH,
winger and no 9. let bamford go
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| Gruev has been linked with Dortmund as well. Tanaka from Dusseldorf has been linked, but I'd be looking to sign Pierre Ekwah from Sunderland regardless of if Gruev stays.
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| Yeah there's some work to do isn't there. Pierre Ekwah was quality wasn't he, we were a bit short in midfield back end so that certainly needs looking at, needs a few goals in there. Trouble is with Gray he looks just as good at RB as he does in midfield but playing him in midfield at 8 gives us added creativity.. agree regarding 2 centre backs as it gives us options on Ampadu, he's very very useful in midfield but he's also superb at bringing the ball out from the back..
Re Jack Clarke, I would have thought he would be obtainable as Piroe was.. surely Sunderland will need the money.. depends on Prem interest though I suppose.
Not sure about Bamford, can we afford to replace him with anything better given other areas to focus on? and we could be 2 wingers down... depends what we'd sell him for.
I'd definately sell Meslier though, heard a stat today on the Graham Smyth podcast that he was one of the worst keepers in the championship for saving goals. Both promoted teams had their keepers in the top 3, its a pretty bad stat that as we were very good defensively so it kind of makes that stat even worse.
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