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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Those who doubt Sinfield's passing ability need to take a closer look at his game. Number of times I've seen him throw absolutely perfect cut out passes to put wingers in at the corner, or deft little passes at the line to put a team mate through a gap. He has excellent hands IMO.'"
I agree that he can and does throw some great passes - but he also throws some shockers, he throws a fair few murder balls aswell (JJB is more often than not the recipient of them).
I'm not saying he's got a poor passing game - but there are many in his position with better. I suggest rather than only focussing on the wonder passes he makes (which are to be marvelled at) you take a closer look at his all round passing game - he does have a habit of the pass being just ever so slightly behind the man, too high/low or too flat/late that can slow the attack down at times or lead to the man getting smashed - it's not a massive problem, and I don't want to be seen as focussing on the negatives, because he has so much positive, but I think if you're discussing a players merits, it's only right to talk about both positives and negatives.
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| Quote ="Eddie Rombo"Was getting all angry then and gonna respond to the flag carrying pie munchers. But then, thought why? I' m better than that and jealously makes people say owt....'"
If you look at other boards you will find that fans other that pie eaters have questioned whether or not he, Sir Kevin, is indeed "The best player in the world". And I see few people questioning his ability as a player, far from it, just questioning whether he is the best player in the world.
Incidentally, i did not think Farrell was the best in the world when he won it, or that Tomkins was deserving of the MOS last season, just before you accuse me of the bias that you so obviously possess.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"If you look at other boards you will find that fans other that pie eaters have questioned whether or not he, Sir Kevin, is indeed "The best player in the world". And I see few people questioning his ability as a player, far from it, just questioning whether he is the best player in the world.
Incidentally, i did not think Farrell was the best in the world when he won it, or that Tomkins was deserving of the MOS last season, just before you accuse me of the bias that you so obviously possess.'"
Does it matter what we/you all think?
You're English I assume? Why not just enjoy and accept the fact that independent arbiters have named the England Captain as the best player in the world. It is so rarely awarded to an English man why question it? Isn't it exactly that kind of parochial, self depreciating negativity from English Rugby League fans that holds our game back?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I would go further and suggest that most opinions are a matter of opinion.'"
That's only your opinion though.
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| Quote ="G1"Does it matter what we/you all think?
You're English I assume? Why not just enjoy and accept the fact that independent arbiters have named the England Captain as the best player in the world. It is so rarely awarded to an English man why question it? Isn't it exactly that kind of parochial, self depreciating negativity from English Rugby League fans that holds our game back?'"
Sorry for having an opinion!!!!! Last time i looked it was a free country.
Why would i applaud an award just because he is British, oh, and a Lancastrian.
Negativity, my arrse!!!!
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| Quote ="G1"Does it matter what we/you all think?
You're English I assume? Why not just enjoy and accept the fact that independent arbiters have named the England Captain as the best player in the world. It is so rarely awarded to an English man why question it? [u:2wa717mu:2wa717muIsn't it exactly that kind of parochial, self depreciating negativity from English Rugby League fans that holds our game back?[/:2wa717mu[/u
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| In the (admittedly improbable) scenario that Sean O'Loughlin led Wigan to 6 titles, I'd hope that most on here would bring themselves to acknowledge his feat and applaud if he were to be awarded the golden boot.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"In the (admittedly improbable) scenario that Sean O'Loughlin led Wigan to 6 titles, I'd hope that most on here would bring themselves to acknowledge his feat and applaud if he were to be awarded the golden boot.'"
The main criteria for Sinfield getting the Golden boot was for performances at club and international level throughout 2012 wasn't it?if not the golden boot would be awarded every 10 years
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Sorry for having an opinion!!!!! Last time i looked it was a free country.
'" When was the last time you looked? What's free about it?
You're entitled to an opinion. Just as I am entitled to view your opinion as mired in negativity, parochialism and downright Norther Union miserableness
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| Quote ="G1"When was the last time you looked? What's free about it?
You're entitled to an opinion. Just as I am entitled to view your opinion as mired in negativity, parochialism and downright Norther Union miserableness'"
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"The main criteria for Sinfield getting the Golden boot was for performances at club and international level throughout 2012 wasn't it?if not the golden boot would be awarded every 10 years'"
Very true. What I meant was that were any player to lead a team to what Kev has I'd hope that our lot would acknowledge the feat and be big enough to applaud the subsequent awarding of a golden boot, regardless of whether or not they felt him to have been the best player in that particular year - always a subjective issuein any case.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Very true. What I meant was that were any player to lead a team to what Kev has I'd hope that our lot would acknowledge the feat and be big enough to applaud the subsequent awarding of a golden boot, regardless of whether or not they felt him to have been the best player in that particular year - always a subjective issuein any case.'"
Know what you mean,but some of em now are intimating that all our previous 4 SL wins are down to us not being really the best team either
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Know what you mean,but some of em now are intimating that all our previous 4 SL wins are down to us not being really the best team either'"
If your name is on the trophy/title, what does it matter whats others think....
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| He's right! The miserable Goons have moved on to attempting to diminish Leighs victory and arguing about the size of the away following at LSV.
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| Quote ="G1"independent arbiters'"
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| Quote ="William Eve"icon_lol.gif'"
Hi Will.
I've decided to have a nibble on this one. In what respect(s) were they not independent?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Hi Will.
I've decided to have a nibble on this one. In what respect(s) were they not independent?'"
They didn't choose an Aussie.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Hi Will.
I've decided to have a nibble on this one. In what respect(s) were they not independent?'"
Hi El.D.
I've no idea who the alleged independent arbiters were and neither has anyone else. [url=http://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php/topic/235905-and-the-winner-of-the-golden-boot-is/page__st__300#entry2614975[uThe head honcho at LPL in Brighouse supplied several lame reasons for refusing to name the arbiters and who they voted for[/u[/url. Until we know who those arbiters are and how they voted, how could we possibly know for certain they were independent?
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| Perhaps the most embarrassing thing about those who argue against Sinfield winning the award is when they've name dropped the fact of Brighouse as the location of the magazine (such as Will Eve and that streak of pi$$ Danny Lockwood) as if they're biased towards English players........yet we have only 2 English winners from the last 14 years........some bias towards England is that!
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Perhaps the most embarrassing thing about those who argue against Sinfield winning the award is when they've name dropped the fact of Brighouse as the location of the magazine (such as Will Eve and that streak of pi$$ Danny Lockwood) as if they're biased towards English players........yet we have only 2 English winners from the last 14 years........some bias towards England is that!'"
2 winners in 14 seems to me to be possibly too big a number of British winners when comparing the merits and standards of the previous players voted for by the international panels selected previously.
Given the fact that the some or all of those previous international panels were not asked/allowed to vote this time may give you an insight into why some people are questioning the decision.
The questionable excuses given to explain the lack of transparency in the voting also doesn't quieten the rumblings more so adds fuel to the fire for those who are miffed/baffled by the result.
Although confused at some fans irritation at this decision, as I can't understand why anyone would get so worked up over something like this, I also find the scrambling for justifications for the decision equally embarrassing and baffling.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Hi El.D.
I've no idea who the alleged independent arbiters were and neither has anyone else. [url=http://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php/topic/235905-and-the-winner-of-the-golden-boot-is/page__st__300#entry2614975[uThe head honcho at LPL in Brighouse supplied several lame reasons for refusing to name the arbiters and who they voted for[/u[/url. Until we know who those arbiters are and how they voted, how could we possibly know for certain they were independent?'"
Indeed. But then, how can we know that they weren't?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Although confused at some fans irritation at this decision, as I can't understand why anyone would get so worked up over something like this, I also find the scrambling for justifications for the decision equally embarrassing and baffling.'"
Because if we didn't have some voices trying to big up and be positive about good things that happen in the sport then we'll just be left with the negative voices making a noise......and then people will wonder why new fans aren't flocking to this sport that they keep hearing only bad things about.
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| Back to the goal kicking record I have just checked it out and the record for consecutive kicks is 41 in the UK by Featherstones Liam Finn. The record in the NRL is 34 by canterburys El Nasri, does anyone know how many Sir Kevin is on at the moment ?
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| 36 sl goals i think
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| Quote ="Tingley Rhino"Back to the goal kicking record I have just checked it out and the record for consecutive kicks is 41 in the UK by Featherstones Liam Finn. The record in the NRL is 34 by canterburys El Nasri, does anyone know how many Sir Kevin is on at the moment ?
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It's been established elsewhere on here that Sinfield now has 27 (?) consecutive goals as he missed a couple against France for England. But yeah, 36 in a row in SL.
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