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| Quote ="Shabino"Actually some good players there, not as simple as replacing these to improve!'"
I could understand keeping Austin as he at least seems to try and as said, it's going to be near impossible to sign two HBs of quality at the same time.
I'd like an organising 7 to help bring Sinfield on and partner whoever is at 6.
Tet hasn't done enough. Fusitua has had too many injuries, Donaldson isn't good enough.
Bentley seems to want out. While he can put in some good shifts ( especially the back end of last season ) he was a ban on legs first half of the season when we really needed him.
If we can keep him on a sensible wage I wouldn't be unhappy
If he leaves for NRL, likewise.
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"I doubt we'll get two decent halfbacks in one go either. Its got to be horses for courses, as Sezer and Austin are very different styles. That's supposed to be a good thing but they've rarely actually played that well together for us (that's another issue).
We've seen before what happens when you try to play without an organising halfback - umpteen combinations of Myler, Sutcliffe etc failed miserably. I guess Sinfield is the future hope there, but would you want to rely on him next season? I'm not even fully convinced he's going to make a SL player yet, let alone run the team. Problem is if we bring in someone for two or three years (which we might need to do to attract someone) does that mean Sinfield will leave regardless?
Its all very hard, and I'm glad I'm not the one having to make decisions. Get it right and we're set. Get it wrong and we'll be having this same discussion in two or three years.'"
Yeah i'm yet to be convinced with Sinfield too... really hope he makes it though for obvious reasosn. Would be an amazing story and a huge benefit to the club. Personally i think he needs a good loan.
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| At the risk of knee-jerking on one result, I do think I was wrong about Smith/the project.
I’m starting to come round to the way of thinking that Smith needs time. You come back from 14-0 away at wigan and a man down, that’s surely the building blocks of something?
Let’s give him time, and let him cook.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"At the risk of knee-jerking on one result, I do think I was wrong about Smith/the project.
I’m starting to come round to the way of thinking that Smith needs time. You come back from 14-0 away at wigan and a man down, that’s surely the building blocks of something?
Let’s give him time, and let him cook.'"
He needs time and some more of his own players.
What last night does show is that the idea that some on here have been saying that hes lost the dressing room and players have downed tools is a load of nonsense
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"At the risk of knee-jerking on one result, I do think I was wrong about Smith/the project.
I’m starting to come round to the way of thinking that Smith needs time. You come back from 14-0 away at wigan and a man down, that’s surely the building blocks of something?
Let’s give him time, and let him cook.'"
Until the next time we lose and you knee jerk back to Smith out
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"I could understand keeping Austin as he at least seems to try and as said, it's going to be near impossible to sign two HBs of quality at the same time.
I'd like an organising 7 to help bring Sinfield on and partner whoever is at 6.
Tet hasn't done enough. Fusitua has had too many injuries, Donaldson isn't good enough.
Bentley seems to want out. While he can put in some good shifts ( especially the back end of last season ) he was a ban on legs first half of the season when we really needed him.
If we can keep him on a sensible wage I wouldn't be unhappy
If he leaves for NRL, likewise.'"
Tetevano is on about £200k a year, so he has to go to free up a marquee spot or stay with a big pay cut. Not sure Fusitua will ever be really fit again, so I’d let him go too, agree about Donaldson. Bentley was really good at end of last season but not at that level yet this year. I would be surprised if he got a gig in the NRL, but who knows. Agree keep if we can.
If we also lose Walters, Tindall and Lisone plus Leemjng has gone, that’s a lot of players to replace before Austin and Sezer come into play.
I’d keep Austin and see how it goes with Sezer. It I’m guessing Sezer will be replaced.
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| To be honest, I forgot how young Bentley is. If we keep him, fair enough, but I'm not sure his style is suited to the current game. He's a sin bin waiting to happen. But he doesn't really have the power or size to enable him to tone down his aggression. He'll be one of the top earners as well, I think
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| Given the amount of players that are now looking likely to leave:
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We should definitely keep Bentley and Austin.
Bentley is still young enough to regain his early form.
And Austin shows flashes of good stuff in games. Said it before, not many players like him about. Well worth another year.
That still leaves a lot of recruitment to do.
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| Quote ="Simmo71"Given the amount of players that are now looking likely to leave:
Walters
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Sezer
We should definitely keep Bentley and Austin.
Bentley is still young enough to regain his early form.
And Austin shows flashes of good stuff in games. Said it before, not many players like him about. Well worth another year.
That still leaves a lot of recruitment to do.
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Lisone could leave too.
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| Unrelated but looking on Twitter some great moments at the Rob Burrow marathon today.
Well done to all involved. Fantastic to see Luke Burgess, Matt Adamson and all the others turn out to run
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"Tetevano is on about £200k a year, so he has to go to free up a marquee spot or stay with a big pay cut. Not sure Fusitua will ever be really fit again, so I’d let him go too, agree about Donaldson. Bentley was really good at end of last season but not at that level yet this year. I would be surprised if he got a gig in the NRL, but who knows. Agree keep if we can.
If we also lose Walters, Tindall and Lisone plus Leemjng has gone, that’s a lot of players to replace before Austin and Sezer come into play.
I’d keep Austin and see how it goes with Sezer. It I’m guessing Sezer will be replaced.'"
Tetavano been a complete waste if Money and Quota spot wouldn’t pre sign him for free.
Don’t know why people bag Donaldson, he’s not here to be a world beater he was always a dependable squad filler and he has been great value in that role, better than high value others who are not performing.
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| Quote ="leedsbarmyarmy"Until the next time we lose and you knee jerk back to Smith out'"
No. I’ve been consistently Smith out despite wins. The knee-jerk is being Smith in after a win. Not vice versa.
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| I actually find it more annoying that there is clearly some quality in this squad but they can only perform once every 3 games for 40 minutes. That's pretty concerning IMO.
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| Quote ="tomlufc"I actually find it more annoying that there is clearly some quality in this squad but they can only perform once every 3 games for 40 minutes. That's pretty concerning IMO.'"
Stop it.
You'll get told off for being negative thinking like that....
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| Quote ="tomlufc"I actually find it more annoying that there is clearly some quality in this squad but they can only perform once every 3 games for 40 minutes. That's pretty concerning IMO.'"
It’s definitely a concern and Smith needs to sort it if we are to compete for grand finals again or even to get a shot at getting there.
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| The optimism rose after a similar second half turnaround v catalan after and awful first half. The following week we failed to show up against KR. What will Saturday hold...
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"Lisone could leave too.'"
Yep, good point. Missed him.
Very likely by the looks of things.
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| Just wondering, now that we’ve fallen at the first hurdle in the cup this year, what are people expecting and what do you consider to be acceptable to continue with the current coaching team?
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| Enough consistency make top 4 while continuing to have the confidence and flair to beat anyone in a one off game.
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| 6th is par for me. But unless we have a really poor rest of season, I think Smith stays regardless.
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| Given that the standard is very poor this year, we should have the squad to make the top 6.
But even though we are still in the mix, we are way too inconsistent at the moment.
And regardless of what all the 'glass half full' guys think, the knives are already out.
If we miss out on the top 6, he could potentially be in trouble.
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| not put in a good, solid 80 minute performance and we are halfway through may.
that's a massive concern
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| Quote ="Simmo71"Given that the standard is very poor this year, we should have the squad to make the top 6.
But even though we are still in the mix, we are way too inconsistent at the moment.
And regardless of what all the 'glass half full' guys think, the knives are already out.
If we miss out on the top 6, he could potentially be in trouble.'"
Why do you say the standard is very poor this year? Cas and Wakey are poor, and Hull haven't been great but on the whole there are some pretty handy teams, with everybody beating each other. Generally that's a sign of strength rather than weakness. I'd say the standard across the board is certainly better than it was in 22, 21, 20 and 19. My memory gets hazy beyond that. If you are so desperate for a sacking you'd be better off following Leeds United.
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| just because it's more equal doesnt make the overall standard good.
it's far from good
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| For me the standard had been in decline for around 10 years. Even when we did the treble, it was already sliding. Being good and being competitive aren’t the same thing, the league is becoming more competitive but the standard of play is noth8ng like what it was in the 2000-2013 era.
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