1. I only offered up Manakafoa as an example, however you could replace that with Scruton, D. Smith etc it is a viable shorterm option, however
2. Did you watch the Bulls play the Catalans? If you did then you would have seen that Manakafoa offered far more go forward than Baldwinson agaginst a solid pack
3. Yates is poop yet you have not seen him play in a Leeds shirt yet
4. Bailey's poop but lets keep him because he's poop that we know. real solid argument.
Having watched Bailey for 10 years I'd rather get rid and have a kid in the squad than see him steal a wage for another year.

McGuire as been shocking and singleton.but as above all shocking so far,

Definitely not the only one. But he has got yo be the last player you would want to put on in a hard tussle. Why we persevere, sorry pish about, keeping putting this player in, is a complete mystery.

I started this thread & have read nothing that changes my view that we should off load Kirke & Bailey before next season. If Kylie wants another year then go with that.
Bailey is clearly out of favour & Kirke was woeful again tonight (but certainly not the only one) !
I'd rather have some younger players busting a gut than have 30 somethings going through the motions.

Can we bury the fallacy that he is a good defender once and for all?

We were in a 12 point hole solely because of the introduction of this big lazy bottle-less get. His glacial like retreat from the ruck, with his back to the play, for Warrington's first try was the worst thing I've seen and it came with him on the field for less than sixty seconds.

I'm even bored of typing this crap now, it's such an embarrassment he gets to pull a shirt on alongside these great players and it's cringeworthingly sad that people defend the lazy fekker. Big lump, soft waste of space.

And it's not like last night was sub par for him. The rest of the team maybe, but that was a regular display for Kirke,

Here f*cking here.

But we all know the argument. Well x y and z have selected him and he has x number of GF winners rings.



He's the luckiest professional sportsman i've ever seen.