Best side won. Child is one of the more consistent referees. He consistently ruins games and tonight was no exception.

Are you fooking blind? Incredibly biased? Or just clueless?

It was a clear try and he could have walked on his hands to the line without been touched by an Hull player.

Dear god.

And yet it was you who wished to use pitch markings as evidence of a forward pass when we both know they are almost always irrelevant as players tend to be moving rather than stood still when delivering the ball.



Are you suggesting Webb speeded up after releasing the pass?

Webb was travelling both laterally =#0000BFand towards the Hull line when he passed the ball. Webb doesn't appear to accelerate after passing the ball, indeed his progress forward if anything is impeded by the challenge of Crooks and yet he stays in line as Jones-Bishop receives the pass.

Probably best also not to lose sight of the fact we are debating a subjective matter and refrain from ending messages with definitive statements.

Apparently you're the only one that's blind, as Tom Briscoe clearly had him covered. They may have scored off the subsequent tackle, but there was no disallowed "try" as there wasn't one scored.

The fact that you have said "almost" always means that they aren't irrelevant to you.
The pitch markings cannot be used to determine a forward pass alone due to the "momentum" rule (that technically isn't anything to do with momentum, it's constant velocity). However, they can be used to estimate the velocity of the player and the ball and make a comparison.

To me, the main point is that the ball is ALWAYS in front of Webb. Had it been passed backwards, it would have been behind him at some point.



Webb was travelling both laterally =#0000BFand towards the Hull line when he passed the ball. Webb doesn't appear to accelerate after passing the ball, indeed his progress forward if anything is impeded by the challenge of Crooks and yet he stays in line as Jones-Bishop receives the pass.'"

The remainder of the 'almost' sentence I used to indicate an example of when the pitch markings could be relevant but clearly that situation didn't apply to Webb on Saturday.



Webb's pass was a face ball to the winger cutting the centre out, the longer the pass the less reliable an indicator pitch markings become.



And to me the main point is the ball is never in front of Webb until after he is checked by Crooks' challenge. There are three possible directions for a pass to travel: backward, flat or forward - two of the three are legal passes.



Why are you focussing solely on a pass needing to be 'behind' ? As explained above a ball can also be flat ie in-line for it still to be deemed legal.

I agree Webb plants his left foot to steady his delivery at the point of release where I disagree is that there was any element of acceleration in Webb's run after that point, if anything I'd say the opposite was true as he prepares for contact. Despite this slowing Webb remains in line with the ball before Crooks' intervention.



It's interesting that when applying the pitch-marking theory in isolation Crooks' pass to Briscoe for his first should have been disallowed.