thats what i said, we will know more after there next few games. I dont agree its in our hands though. Hudds are in front of us, and it is in there hands, if they dont lose they finish above us, we have to rely on them slipping up, Hudds just have to concentrate on there own, in their hands

Not sure we will get 4th now, need to win the last 3 and that will be a massive effort

Cas A after the tough semi
Catalans H before the final (if they make it too then it could change things)
Hull A the week after the final

Doubt we could win from outside the top 4?

I don't doubt this team anytime now given their achievements.

winning from 5th would be easier than 4th now IMO.

We'd likely be able to avoid some top team in the first couple of games and then would have momentum for the final elminator.

Would still be very tough mind, but finish 5th is no disaster and i think if we do finish 5th we'll get written off.

Everyone will be talking about wigan and warrington.

It would also potentially give wigan, one f*CK of a dilemma with the club call. Who do you pick, saints leeds or warrington? (will proba sbe one of them 3 maybe?).

I really don't fancy wigans position to be honest.

They'll go into the playoffs firm favourites but under the new system it's no where near as straightforward as it used to be for top spot and I don't think they'll run out winners at old trafford.

Do you think anyone cares about your opinion anymore after the way you were writing the team off during yesterdays game?