Again the England players didn't play anything like to their full potential , till the damage was done and it was too late
We need to get out the blocks against the Kiwis and play from the first minute to the last , if we do this then IMO we have a chance
But the players that star in the Super League every week HAVE to stand up and be counted and play like they can play

I didn't think Peacock was that bad on Saturday. I certainly don't think he's "shot." He isn't an explosive player, but he still tackles ferociously and plays longer stints than the more explosive props. I think it takes all sorts when it comes to a pack of forwards. I don't think he played all that out of positon either, particularly in attack where he was still largely utilised up the middle.

Not, perhaps, his best game in an England shirt, but I think rumours of his demise have been greatly exaggerated.

If I was analysing based on one game you might have a point.

Against the French he looked no better than the likes of Ferriol, and he's hardly what you would call a world class front rower. Off the back of a disappointing World Cup personally and collectively in terms of performances he needed to make a mark against the Aussies. As it was, Tony Smith spared him by dragging him off when he did IMO.

Compared to the likes of Burgess and Crabtree he's looking sluggish and leaden footed in attack and defence - time and a heavy club workload have taken away the explosiveness you need to be a success at international level.

It's no coincidence that the two front rowers who have put in the most game time over the SL season - JP and James Graham - both looked sluggish on Saturday IMO.

I can see your point though don't necessarily think JP is spent yet. However, I thought Graham played well on Saturday.

I thought Graham did what Graham does - he took the ball up willingly, defended manfully.

At no point however did I ever think he was going to break a tackle or get his arms free and offload in the same way I did with Burgess and Crabtree for example.

You don't necessarily want every prop to be a huge attacking threat. You need at least a couple of forwards who simply graft, make hard yards from the back and are solid in defence. We need the dynamic players as well, but its very rare for forwards to be both dynamic and workaholics, even in the NRL. Hindmarsh of a few years ago was about it.