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| It seems like we're trying to recruit yet another of your young academy players. (sorry)
Are there any strong rumours about Walker to Hull? Is he highly regarded by your fans?
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| It was suggested he would be joining HKR. Anyway the Cas player drain to Humberside continues.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"It was suggested he would be joining HKR. Anyway the Cas player drain to Humberside continues.'"
You did get some of the best years of one of our biggest legends a few years ago.
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| you're getting the best of his offspring though so I'll say we are even
he's a big strong kid and defensively pretty tough - he's a little clumsy at times though and has the odd brain fart play well within him.
Nothing a good coach couldn't handle
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| Too injury prone,will have retired before 30
rather keep fleming
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"You did get some of the best years of one of our biggest legends a few years ago.
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Craig Greenhill?
No, but seriously, regarding Walker I'd probably be sad to see some more of our young talent go, but I don't feel we've seen the potential of the guy. He's very injury prone and has had some rather serious injuries, but has shown real glimpses of what he can do. For me he hasn't ever played to his weight, size or capability and should be running the ball in much harder than he does. He also has a rather annoying habit of dropping the ball quite often at the play the ball.
It's strange because when him and Nathan Massey came through at a similar time, I felt Massey was far smaller, and inferior to a player with Walker's size and aggression. Now, I feel that Massey is less expendable to the team than Jonathan Walker because of the way he's applied himself. I just feel that if Walker played with a bit more intensity and consistently, he'd be a real quality player.
I hope that doesn't come across too harshly, but I think he exemplifies what is our problem as a team- he does something brilliant, followed closely by an inexplicable error. He is still only young though, and with the right coaching I think he has the potential to be a top player if he applies himself a little better.
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| Why do FC keep on coming to Cas for our players when their academy set up is better than ours?
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| Quote ="Disco"Why do FC keep on coming to Cas for our players when their academy set up is better than ours?'"
I thought they would aim a bit higher than us for a recruitment centre - a club constantly in the bottom 3 in recent years. Maybe its to cut down on travel costs ?
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| Quote ="Disco"Why do FC keep on coming to Cas for our players when their academy set up is better than ours?'"
Our Academy setup was likened to that of a "sunday League team" by Adam Pearson when he took over. He has invested heavily acquiring new facilities and coaches. Signed some really good U15's and U17s, the only problem is we have to wait some time for them to come through.
The other problem we have since City got promoted to Prem League youth rugby in Hull has dropped and some teams can't even get the numbers.
As I have said in the past though, why do Cas keep losing there young talent ? They must be doing something wrong to keep losing them time and time again.
Rumour has it Lynch is going your way as part of the deal.
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| Quote ="HORSESMOUTH"walker to hull fc 3 year deal lynch to cas deal done'"
Sounds good - any money involved ?
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| Quote ="pmarrow"As I have said in the past though, why do Cas keep losing there young talent ? They must be doing something wrong to keep losing them time and time again.'"
Might be something to do with us not been able to afford to pay the full salary cap. We also cannot provide the success that clubs like Hull FC can.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Might be something to do with us not been able to afford to pay the full salary cap. We also cannot provide the success that clubs like Hull FC can.'"
We are not the most successful club in Hull, in fact we are probably a massive underachieving club. However we do seem to be able to sell ourselves to players. I see Cas as a big club, everyone knows of Cas so I am surprised you've not got a Adam Pearson of your own.
Maybe its the stadium issue which is holding you back.
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| Arundel , Thompson, Walker are as much likely to lose you games as win you games they are pretty easy to replace.
no way do any of them deserve a big money contract.
We replaced Arundel with Shenton a much better former Cas Player, looks like we will replace Walker with Lynch currently a better prop and former Cas player, Orr came back to us too for a few seasons , players come and go it's not a one way player drain.
It wouldn't surprise me if Arundel was shown the door and i don't think Cas would be interested.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"We are not the most successful club in Hull, in fact we are probably a massive underachieving club. However we do seem to be able to sell ourselves to players. I see Cas as a big club, everyone knows of Cas so I am surprised you've not got a Adam Pearson of your own.
Maybe its the stadium issue which is holding you back.'"
Stadium issue?
We own our own ground so anyone could just pump money into WR and redevelop that if they wanted. Let's face, it all we really need to do is modernise the Railway End with new corporate boxes and a proper roof that goes all way around to Princess St and main stand.
Full length all seater main stand with hospitality facilities and new roof on both Princess St and WRE stands with proper toilet facilities behind.
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| In terms of Hull signing our players or young players going, they get their heads turned by agents sometimes.
They also get promised the world, better facilities, the chance to play in bigger games regularly and also a little bit more cash. Not just that there's also the issue of potentially having a better chance of obtaining international shirts in a better team.
It's a shame but that's the lure of modern day sport I guess. People like Craig Huby don't get the credit they deserve at lower league clubs. Could have so easily moved on but stayed loyal to case and only ever wants to play for Cas. Wish we had 17 Craig Huby's.
If we could replicate that passion and loyalty, heck we might be further up the table.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I thought they would aim a bit higher than us for a recruitment centre - a club constantly in the bottom 3 in recent years. Maybe its to cut down on travel costs ?'"
Check out their league placings for the last 6/7 years, don't think they are much more of an average outfit themselves.
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| Quote ="mrpurfect"Arundel , Thompson, Walker are as much likely to lose you games as win you games they are pretty easy to replace.
no way do any of them deserve a big money contract.
We replaced Arundel with Shenton a much better former Cas Player, looks like we will replace Walker with Lynch currently a better prop and former Cas player, Orr came back to us too for a few seasons , players come and go it's not a one way player drain.
It wouldn't surprise me if Arundel was shown the door and i don't think Cas would be interested.'"
it would cost them too much in compensation as he signed a four year deal, and didn't he score a trick against us and he will be playing at wembley so not a bad move
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Check out their league placings for the last 6/7 years, don't think they are much more of an average outfit themselves.'"
Agreed. Whilst I cannot understand Hull FC's obsession with signing Castleford produced players I also cannot see the appeal with going to play for Hull FC over the Tigers. Its a 2 way conundrum.
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| Quote ="Disco"Why do FC keep on coming to Cas for our players when their academy set up is better than ours?'"
I blame Knocker Norton lol
He was probably the best signing our club has ever made and we keep coming back to you guys, trying to get another Knocker but, alas, there never will be one.
Cas has a terrific record for producing great young kids and even though we, as a club and a city, have probably 100 times more kids to choose from, we don't get close to your results. Your club is a real credit to the game and many Hull fans feel a little embarrassed that we keep knocking on your door when we want a good young kid with potential.
Anyway, I genuinely wish your club all the best and I hope that you sort out your off-field problems and get your next franchise sorted out quickly.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"you're getting the best of his offspring though so I'll say we are even
he's a big strong kid and defensively pretty tough - he's a little clumsy at times though and has the odd brain fart play well within him.
Nothing a good coach couldn't handle'"
I'll give you that one lol He is very special as well.
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| Quote ="Tigerade" I also cannot see the appeal with going to play for Hull FC over the Tigers. Its a 2 way conundrum.'"
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Agreed. Whilst I cannot understand Hull FC's obsession with signing Castleford produced players I also cannot see the appeal with going to play for Hull FC over the Tigers. Its a 2 way conundrum.'"
Put BBC on the 24th August at about 3PM to see why players want to leave Cas to sign for Hull.
I really like Cas and if they has appointed Powell instead of mill ward, these players might have stayed, but the fact is these players have more chance of winning things or at least playing in big games at hull.
Personally I'd rather keep lynch than sign walker. Not sure why we have an obsession with Cas players, thought it was Andy hay but he has no left.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Personally I'd rather keep lynch than sign walker. Not sure why we have an obsession with Cas players, thought it was Andy hay but he has no left.'"
Can't see Andy Hay having anything to do with recruitment at Hull FC - he was assistant coach. Sean McRae is the football manager so I would imagine he is responsible for squad building.
What is disappointing is that some Castleford fans think your club have seriously got it in for us which obviously isn't the case but I can see why they think like that.
Walker for Lynch could be a good deal but getting Thompson for nothing by waiting until his birthday in November is poor form by Hull FC. Its been common knowledge that he is joining Hull since May.
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