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| the chief clown has parted ways with his chief exec!!!
my favourite quote from the statement...
"If someone is not doing it we need to move them on, but Ed has not been sacked. I just think it is for the best."
he's turning the club into a laughing stock before he takes them forward
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"the chief clown has parted ways with his chief exec!!!
my favourite quote from the statement...
"If someone is not doing it we need to move them on, but Ed has not been sacked. I just think it is for the best."
he's turning the club into a laughing stock before he takes them forward'"
Haven't Cas recently parted with their Chief Exec? Whats with all the anti Salford vibe from the Cas fans of late, insecurity maybe?
I don't see how this is making them a laughing stock. Give me the Doctor and his cash any day and I'll happily let anyone laugh at Wakey. The guy is doing it his way as he always has, about time we had a character like him in the game to ruffle the feathers of the cozy cartel at the top.
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| Dr Koukash could prove to be a very problematic thorn in the majority of other SL sides IMO as he can and will offer serious contract upgrades,and to any player that Nobby has on his wish list
From Cas he would obviously be looking at targeting both Rangi <if he can get a visa for him?> and Daryl Clarke i would presume?
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"Dr Koukash could prove to be a very problematic thorn in the majority of other SL sides IMO as he can and will offer serious contract upgrades,and to any player that Nobby has on his wish list
From Cas he would obviously be looking at targeting both Rangi <if he can get a visa for him?> and Daryl Clarke i would presume?'"
Daz Clark, has the talent to end up at any of the tops clubs in this country and the NRL. I do not put Salford in the category of either.
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| Quote ="Towns88"Daz Clark, has the talent to end up at any of the tops clubs in this country and the NRL. I do not put Salford in the category of either.'"
You have some ridiculously high opinions of some of your players. Daz Clarke has not shown enough quality to say he would unseat any NRL hooker. Salford who would probably be willing to pay more than the likes of Leeds, Saints etc would be more realistic next move for him.
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| Quote ="deeHell"You have some ridiculously high opinions of some of your players. Daz Clarke has not shown enough quality to say he would unseat any NRL hooker. Salford who would probably be willing to pay more than the likes of Leeds, Saints etc would be more realistic next move for him.'"
What do you know exactly? Daz Clark (no e) is exceptional especially for a guy of his age. He won't be far off an England call up, and I imagine will be England's number 9 for some years to come.
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| Quote ="deeHell"You have some ridiculously high opinions of some of your players. Daz Clarke has not shown enough quality to say he would unseat any NRL hooker. Salford who would probably be willing to pay more than the likes of Leeds, Saints etc would be more realistic next move for him.'"
Not sure if you know, but castleford was approached by warrington last year for daz.
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| Quote ="deeHell"You have some ridiculously high opinions of some of your players. Daz Clarke has not shown enough quality to say he would unseat any NRL hooker. Salford who would probably be willing to pay more than the likes of Leeds, Saints etc would be more realistic next move for him.'"
Were did he state that he would unseat an nrl hooker??? Hes 20 year old and will only get better,has the potential to be world class
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| DeeHell - Its not insecurity, its a realisation of things to come. I think the new owner of Salford has rubbed oposition fans up the wrong way through various channels. The icing on the cake regarding Castleford was probably his comments regarding breaking the salary cap next year - something he as publicly stated he is willing to do.
Imagine this - 2014 - the bottom 2 teams to be relegated from SL. Salford who finish 12th accect a points deduction but it is still enough to see them survive the cull. How would the 2 clubs relegated feel about that? The RFL might even consider allowing them to pay above the cap giving them imunity from the drop zone. It could happen to Cas - it could happen to Wakey.
We have also seen how unjust the punishment was for fielding 14 players this year in a SL game. 10 grand is nothing to the Doctor.
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| what makes me feel insecure is the fact that you get the impression that he can say/do what he want. I feel extremely worried that the RFL won't act.
Saying that "a lot of teams spend over the cap, I will do the same" is slanderous of the RFL and it's policies, yet nothing was said. He publically brought the game into disrepute making those comments.
My point with him "getting rid but not sacking" his chief exec, is that he brought him in his self when he took over - he's lasted about three months.
Surely you'd be wondering what the hell is going on.
My worry as a Salford fan would be that he's using their beloved club as a plaything, and as soon as he gets bored (as he has done with his CEX) he will drop them in a worse state than they were 6 months ago
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| Why didn't thr RFL ask him to name names of those clubs he is saying are breaking the cap ?
Don't forget Dave - wasn't it Nigel Wood who introduced the Doctor to SL ?
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| Dave@Cas1990, please elaborate on how we could possibly be left in a worse state than we were in 6 months ago?
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| Tigerade seems very obsessed with us at present, he's made a few comments on ST and VT so I'd thought I'd have a glance on here and found this thread, it didn't disappoint. I'm surprised it's only up to two pages however.
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| I thought this was the Castleford forum?
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| Quote ="Towns88"Daz Clark, has the talent to end up at any of the tops clubs in this country and the NRL. I do not put Salford in the category of either.'"
You're right on the second part - Salford will never be a top class NRL side
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| Bless.
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Tigerade seems very obsessed with us at present, he's made a few comments on ST and VT so I'd thought I'd have a glance on here and found this thread, it didn't disappoint. I'm surprised it's only up to two pages however.
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Not obsessed but lets say... alarmed.
First I thought you would have lost the 2 points from playing Cas for cheating with the 14 players on the field.
Secondly, I thought Dr K would have been made to explain his comment on deliberatly going over the salaly cap limit.
Thirdly, I thought a club would have you banged-to-rights over tapping-up players for next year. dissapointed on that one as everyone seems to be rolling over like a dog for the Dr and letting him tickle their belly.
Anyway - good luck for Monday.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Not obsessed but lets say... alarmed.
First I thought you would have lost the 2 points from playing Cas for cheating with the 14 players on the field.
Secondly, I thought Dr K would have been made to explain his comment on deliberatly going over the salaly cap limit.
Thirdly, I thought a club would have you banged-to-rights over tapping-up players for next year. dissapointed on that one as everyone seems to be rolling over like a dog for the Dr and letting him tickle their belly.
Anyway - good luck for Monday.
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1. We were fined £10,000 that’s more than enough punishment me thinks, I think taking the 2 points would have been less severe, but ffs it was for 30 seconds in a meaningless bottom of the table super league game, it's not going to change anyone’s season, let it go!!!!!
2. He said he will find ways around the cap like other teams in the league do. The Dr came out and said the truth that’s what you don't like. The top teams all find ways around the cap, so if they can do it and are allowed to get away with it then why shouldn't Salford? The Dr made a good point at Mondays supporters trust meeting where he said something along the lines of "To make Super League an honest competition then the salary cap must be raised so everyone plays within the rules at the moment there are a number of clubs who find ways around the rules so if that’s what we need to do if we are to be competitive and keep up with them, then we will do whatever it takes".
3. Do you have any proof on point 3? We could have been given permission to speak with the players concerned, you’re just clutching at straws I'm afraid.
If the shoe was on the other foot and it was you club that had just been saved and now had the power to become a major force, started having all sorts of big names linked with you as well as constantly being in the press (something that Salford never has had is press coverage) then I'm sure you'd change your tune. You and many other Rugby League fans come across as bitter, jealous and dare I even say it a little afraid of what little old Salford could be about to do. Whether we do or not remains to be seen, but one things for certain this bloke will give it a damn good go!!!
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| Quote ="Derek Smalls"Dave@Cas1990, please elaborate on how we could possibly be left in a worse state than we were in 6 months ago?'"
What if he spends more on wages that you have ever spent, then gets bored with his little Salford play thing and leaves?
do you think you'll be left in a good state? considering he is the only source of income keeping salford alive? (considering you were dead in the water before he latched on)
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| Quote ="MotörRed"I thought this was the Castleford forum?
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it is and us Castleford fans on here were discussing the news from this week regarding rugby league.
Might I question how you came to find this topic? Your forum is elsewhere unless I'm mistaken?
Hope you win Monday though..... see ya
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"What if he spends more on wages that you have ever spent, then gets bored with his little Salford play thing and leaves?
do you think you'll be left in a good state? considering he is the only source of income keeping salford alive? (considering you were dead in the water before he latched on)'"
Or what if, he spends more on players then we've spent before and we go on to win the CC, League Leaders Shield, Grand Final and WCC?
Its all if's, but's and maybes, and I'm willing to take the chance. What choice do we have?
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| Quote ="Ave It!" now had the power to become a major force, started having all sorts of big names linked with you as well as constantly being in the press'"
the only person linking these names and getting in the press is the owner himeslf.
if Jack Fulton said "we are signing Ben Barba" then we pass 2/3 of your 'big club criteria'
time will tell whether Salford become a "powerful major force"
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| Quote ="Ave It!"Or what if, he spends more on players then we've spent before and we go on to win the CC, League Leaders Shield, Grand Final and WCC?
Its all if's, but's and maybes, and I'm willing to take the chance. What choice do we have?'"
a fair point. though some of your fans need to save the smugness and gloating for when those trophies are in the cabinet.
Until then, your on field performance on Sunday cannot b dismissed by "they won't be here next eyar we are signing a top team"
that's an insult to you as fans - you're still paying to watch those people represent your club
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Imagine this - 2014 - the bottom 2 teams to be relegated from SL. Salford who finish 12th accect a points deduction but it is still enough to see them survive the cull. How would the 2 clubs relegated feel about that? The RFL might even consider allowing them to pay above the cap giving them imunity from the drop zone. It could happen to Cas - it could happen to Wakey.
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So, you're upset about a hypothetical scenario that you've made up in your head? That's like when my missus is y with me in the morning because she had a dream in which I was rude to her.
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