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| Quote ="Gronk!"Never claimed "inside knowledge"
just the same stuff from Hull fans for numerous years finally seems to be right...you'll have to excuse the skepticism when it comes to rumours from Hull.
I doubt the squad will see anything close to "good" players, it'll be more Championship quality dross.'"
First time I'd mentioned it tbh. Wasn't anything personal but I was just stating the facts and that is exactly what they were regardless of how much you said I was making it up..
This is far better for Cas as although (like I said) the fee isn't so high, you save a fortune pro rata, which is exactly what you need!!
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"First time I'd mentioned it tbh. Wasn't anything personal but I was just stating the facts and that is exactly what they were regardless of how much you said I was making it up..'"
Wasn't aimed specifically at you, it's Hull fans in general every year since he's signed for Cas have been giving it the 100% nailed on to happen blah blah blah so there's a reason nobody believed it.
Quote ="FC Wembley 08"This is far better for Cas as although (like I said) the fee isn't so high, you save a fortune pro rata, which is exactly what you need!!'"
Anything under 300k and Ferres has already lost my confidence, it's an utter joke selling the best player at the club just to appease the egotistical head coach.
As for claiming Cas "need" the money, give over Cas are doing fine, if anything the wages will go into 2-3 players (who no doubt will be Championship level, old or injury prone).
Castleford Tigers - tell the fans there needs to be an increase in season ticket sales....then sell off the best players, they certainly know how to get fans excited
Then when ST sales are down next year they will once again try and blame the fans for having a poor squad, it's the Cas way, treat the fans like utter and live with the mediocrity.
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| Quote ="Fumper27"Get a grip man. How do you even know all this. Millward cannot be that bad to have signed players like Shenton, =#0000FFWebster and Gilmour. Also, wasn't Millward pictured with Rangi when he signed his new deal last season? Rangi's head has been turned by outside influences so let's get the best possible price for him(anything over £250K) and use that £250 with Rangi's rumoured £200K salary on signing 5 or 6 quality players. Add those 5 or 6 to Shenton, Webster, Ellis, =#0000FFTansey, Gilmour, Dixon, Huby, Emmitt, Clark, Milner, Holmes, Walker, Massey, etc and we have a far stronger squad than we have done in the past few years.'"
Have to say I'm curious as to where they'll be playing next year. Can't see Webster and Gilmour being left out with the likely wages they'll be inline for, and Shenton's all but guaranteed one of the centre spots. One of them must be earmarked for the second row instead, which which one do you guys reckon it will be? Gilmour?
Tansey will be interesting too, can fit in to a few positions, but you seem reasonably strong in his those he suits best (fullback, centre, possibly hooker). I can only really think of halfback or a bench player. If Chase is going could he be your 6?
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| Quote ="jtfev"Why don't they like him because =#0000FFhe wants them to do as there told and be more professional and not go out drinking before a match I could go on Most of your team won't leave now certain players have/are going The next big thingthe club need to do is let you fans know what's going on be honest with what's going to happen then you can get behind them and move forward'"
If that's the problem he's having with players it seems a strange move to sign Tansey.
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| Quote Have to say I'm curious as to where they'll be playing next year. Can't see Webster and Gilmour being left out with the likely wages they'll be inline for, and Shenton's all but guaranteed one of the centre spots. One of them must be earmarked for the second row instead, which which one do you guys reckon it will be? Gilmour?
Tansey will be interesting too, can fit in to a few positions, but you seem reasonably strong in his those he suits best (fullback, centre, possibly hooker). I can only really think of halfback or a bench player. If Chase is going could he be your 6?
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....what a load of garbage that looks.
Gilmour looked scared to run the ball in yesterday, Tansey is below average and the pack is light weight. Not to mention Webster will probably move into the physios room, not the centres.
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| I do know his wages are a stumbling block. No club can match what hes on at cas....so we'll see.
Rangi chase does want out of the club,the reason being as one poster as already said, the players at the club arnt good enough.
Also the club have said chase wont play to the stucture hes asked to.
So imo both should part company.
As for him being the best half back in SL, take a look at young elllis in the game last sunday.
Thats what you call a TEAM player. The whole team played far better in that one game than any game all season.
Rangi who.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Tansey
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....what a load of garbage that looks.
Gilmour looked scared to run the ball in yesterday, Tansey is below average and the pack is light weight. Not to mention Webster will probably move into the physios room, not the centres.'"
I thought Owen was secure as your fullback? I've always thought he looks a decent player TBH, would Tansey really be a better option?
On saying that, to be fair to Tansey I'd say that when at Hull he was very good when on his game. The problem was making that the case more than half the time, as he also has stupid errors in his game, concentration issues, and can be shaky under the high ball. Capable of magic and madness.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I thought Owen was secure as your fullback? I've always thought he looks a decent player TBH, would Tansey really be a better option?
On saying that, to be fair to Tansey I'd say that when at Hull he was very good when on his game. The problem was making that the case more than half the time, as he also has stupid errors in his game, concentration issues, and can be shaky under the high ball. Capable of magic and madness.'"
Your description of Tansey pretty much sums up Owen this season
Ryan Brierley should be the full back next season, he's out with Leigh at the minute but I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up at Hull too, plays fullback, stand off and scrum half.
2 rumours that cover the 2 new signings in the backs though were Lote Tuqiri (so Webster doesn't get lonely in the physios room I presume, also HIGHLY unlikely surely) and Thomas Bosc (which went quiet rather quickly, unfortunately)
Looking at that team though you could add Morris, Cronk & Gallen and it would still struggle to finish in the top 10 nevermind make the playoffs.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"
On saying that, to be fair to Tansey I'd say that when at Hull he was very good when on his game. The problem was making that the case more than half the time, as he also has stupid errors in his game, concentration issues, and can be shaky under the high ball. Capable of magic and madness.'"
That pretty much matches my opinion of the lad when he was at Leeds. Bags of talent, but needs to focus it properly. If he's well coached, he will be a good signing for Cas.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Wasn't aimed specifically at you, it's Hull fans in general every year since he's signed for Cas have been giving it the 100% nailed on to happen blah blah blah so there's a reason nobody believed it.
Anything under 300k and Ferres has already lost my confidence, it's an utter joke selling the best player at the club just to appease the egotistical head coach.
As for claiming Cas "need" the money, give over Cas are doing fine, if anything the wages will go into 2-3 players (who no doubt will be Championship level, old or injury prone).
Castleford Tigers - tell the fans there needs to be an increase in season ticket sales....then sell off the best players, they certainly know how to get fans excited
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and live with the mediocrity.'"
Fair enough...
The fee is less than £300k, ALOT less than 300k. You'll be looking at around half that but as I have previously mentioned, expect a couple of preseason friendlies with you guys.
This deal saves you alot of money to throw at some decent championship/out of favour players and also give much needed wages rises to your more committed up and coming stars!!
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| always rated tansey at hull,got everthing going for him, shame he had issues of the field,but if his head is sorted good signing
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Your description of Tansey pretty much sums up Owen this season
Ryan Brierley should be the full back next season, he's out with Leigh at the minute but I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up at Hull too, plays fullback, stand off and scrum half.
2 rumours that cover the 2 new signings in the backs though were Lote Tuqiri (so Webster doesn't get lonely in the physios room I presume, also HIGHLY unlikely surely) and Thomas Bosc (which went quiet rather quickly, unfortunately)
Looking at that team though you could add Morris, Cronk & Gallen and it would still struggle to finish in the top 10 nevermind make the playoffs.'"
Maybe with the 2 of them competing for the fullback spot it could result in one of them rising to the challenge then.
Brierley was mentioned on the Hull forum a few weeks back (but then again, few haven't been), is there anything in it and is he any good?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Brierley was mentioned on the Hull forum a few weeks back (but then again, few haven't been), is there anything in it and is he any good?'"
I don't know but seems you're signing all Cas' players there might be
He's a very good player, his side step & pace being key assets - along with his rugby brain to say he's young he has a very well developed understanding of what's going on around him.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Have to say I'm curious as to where they'll be playing next year. Can't see Webster and Gilmour being left out with the likely wages they'll be inline for, and Shenton's all but guaranteed one of the centre spots. One of them must be earmarked for the second row instead, which which one do you guys reckon it will be? Gilmour?
Tansey will be interesting too, can fit in to a few positions, but you seem reasonably strong in his those he suits best (fullback, centre, possibly hooker). I can only really think of halfback or a bench player. If Chase is going could he be your 6?'"
Neither. Shenton and Webster are starting centres. Gilmour will play in back-row along with Ollie Holmes, Jordan Thompson and Weller Hauraki (if rumours are to be believed). Can't see Gilmour being on shedloads. Chance to prolong his career with a bit more security than Hudds were offering and Hudds free up some cap space early for Anderson.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Erm no, it's most of the squad wanting to leave BECAUSE of Millward.
They hate him, they want out and I don't blame them.'"
It's funny that you continually state this but have provided NO evidence to support this nor pointed out which of the players tells you this.
Equally, it's rather funny that the players hate Millward so much so that they went out and smashed a Huddersfield side. You'd think they wouldn't have put in the effort and were bouncing around so much after the game.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"I don't know but seems you're signing all Cas' players there might be
He's a very good player, his side step & pace being key assets - along with his rugby brain to say he's young he has a very well developed understanding of what's going on around him.'"
I heard we've signed him and Wildie from Wakey.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I heard we've signed him and [uWildie from Wakey[/u.'"
Er, we would expect somewhere in the region of 500k and a box of Cod fillets if you don't mind.
I hope you get him he deserves a chance.
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| So not only could it stop him signing for Hull it could actually stop him getting a renewal full stop.
Did i read that correctly?
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| Quote ="El Rey"Er, we would expect somewhere in the region of 500k and a box of Cod fillets if you don't mind.
I hope you get him he deserves a chance.'"
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| Quote ="Willzay"If Hull do sign Wildie I want Agar's head on a spike.'"
Seems to have been overlooked this season, perhaps because he does want to come and Agar is sitting him in the 20's
What position is he? I thought he played a bit of hooker last year but we have Houghton, Heremaia and the emergence of Cunningham this year so we are ok in that position
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| Wildie is on loan at Batley as i am sure i watched him last Thursday on the televised game.
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| Why all the hullabaloo about Rangi leaving he does not come into the superstar category that many seem to put him in. His kicking game is abysmal and half the time the other players have no idea what he is trying to do. If he is so good then why haven't Wigan-Leeds-St.Helens or Warrington made a move for him and if he is trying to win trophies then why go to the perennial underachievers Hull F C. We got through 2 relegations with losing lots of players not just one so i fail to see how losing one man who thinks he is bigger than the club will be our downfall. Sell him and replace him with Luke Gale from Bradford and have 2 half-backs who are team players.
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| Quote ="tigerman49"half the time the other players have no idea what he is trying to do.'"
That's because they aren't good enough, every player should always be ready for the ball, the ones that aren't simply don't have a good enough rugby brain to exceed at the game.
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Pretty sure both Wigan & Warrington have wanted him at one time or another, and one Aussie paper claimed Brisbane wanted him to replace Lockyer, so he can't be that bad.
Quote ="tigerman49"and if he is trying to win trophies then why go to the perennial underachievers Hull F C. We got through 2 relegations with losing lots of players not just one so i fail to see how losing one man who thinks he is bigger than the club will be our downfall. Sell him and replace him with Luke Gale from Bradford and have 2 half-backs who are team players.'"
Agree about the bizarre thing of players wanting to go to Hull FC to win trophies, I however disagree about Gale - Ben Jeffries is the best HB at Bradford, and pairing his kicking game with Jamie Ellis' would give the club something not many teams have, 2 players with an excellent kicking game.
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