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| Quote ="BostonSpaTiger"If Millward wants respect he has to earn it, not expect it. I would save time and get rid of him now, he has taken our club backwards if anything.'"
Couldn't have put it better myself, to many people ready to make excuses for him in my opinion, if a player performed so poorly people would want him dropped. Even if we are lucky enough to get shut of him early on it will still set us back significantly.
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| I have been a cas fan for a long time, the players that took to the field this year need to stand back and take a good look at them selves and give it all they have and stop blaming things on Millward this as been going on for as long as i can remember the players are paid well for playing a game most of us have played for the fun of it so if they do not want to play because they do not like the boss then they should try a 40 hour week for £6 per hour
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| Ian Millward needs to earn respect? for real? Lets not forget he is a coach with 2 Super League Titles, 2 Challenge Cups and a World Club Challenge trophy in the bank, yes with a good set of players at St Helens but you still have to win them, whats wrong with a coach wanting to install a bit of professionalism to the squad? if your players don't want to act professional for an established club like Cas then its pretty much a waste of time.
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| Quote ="SDGiants"Ian Millward needs to earn respect? for real? Lets not forget he is a coach with 2 Super League Titles, 2 Challenge Cups and a World Club Challenge trophy in the bank, yes with a good set of players at St Helens but you still have to win them, whats wrong with a coach wanting to install a bit of professionalism to the squad? if your players don't want to act professional for an established club like Cas then its pretty much a waste of time.'"
You don't get respect by treating your squad like dirt.
All those trophies were over a decade ago too, look what he's done with full time teams since:
Wigan - 12 games 3 wins
North Queensland - 14 games 2 wins
Cas - 28 games 6 wins (missed 2? games though so 6 from 26)
43 losses, wow massive respect! Even if you add in his Saints record he's barely over 50%.
So a poor coach who treats his players like dirt should get automatic respect, right oh! He should have never got the job and he should have been sacked after the Fev debacle.
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| I think it's a little tough on Millward to make that call as yet. Bearing in mind our back line was decimated by injuries, suspensions to certain 'key' players, and the death of the guy's son.... Surely this is as disruptive to the other squad members as any issues over mutual respect? Mix in making 1 month loan signings to patch up a busted squad, it's a little harsh to berate the coach for losses.
I think looking at the positives, the injuries etc gave academy players much needed first team experience which will in theory make them stronger players at first team level for this season. added to the signings Millward has made, I think we need to start judging from this point onwards.
However I think one shoddy season is enough. Any signs of the 'turmoil' we have experienced this year should signal the end of his contribution to the club, which has as yet been minimal
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| 6 games max - and if he hasn't performed it should be bye-bye.
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| ^^ agree entirely.
Although we need to be realistic about these 6 games - for example - wigan warrington salford wakefield saints - we would be looking for a minimum of two wins.
Under Matterson last year we had won 6 drawn 1 and lost 1 from our first 8 games and were top of the league. the basic reason for the moderate success is that we won the winnable games more often than not - and had a full squad to pick from
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| Although alot will depend on results I think lest season the team (for most of the time) didn't look interested. If he can't change this he should go. If the performance is there (but maybe not the results) he should be given a chance.
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| Players need to respect coach, management and what the club is trying to achieve and the shirt or THEY should go.
Simple as that for me, that is how tough groups are created.
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| Quote ="mdean"Players need to respect coach, management and what the club is trying to achieve and the shirt or THEY should go.
Simple as that for me, that is how tough groups are created.'"
In a real world yes - totally agree, but particularly in sport, it doesn't always work like that. Player power has a lot to answer for. Sometimes a group of players like to think they are untouchable. They think they cannot be replaced because the market isn't there to replace them with.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"In a real world yes - totally agree, but particularly in sport, it doesn't always work like that. Player power has a lot to answer for. Sometimes a group of players like to think they are untouchable. They think they cannot be replaced because the market isn't there to replace them with.'"
Which is why Tigerade I think you either allow it and always side with the players and they run the club, or you break it once and for all.
In my view, we are a long way down the club and management group is king route - so we should persist with it, for the long term.
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| Agreed - and on top of that most of the "ring-leaders" have gone. We should persist with that route - but maybe with a better coach.
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| we keep reading we should sack the coach and pay him of, if anybody has any answers to where the money to pay is remaining two years salary is come from they should let Mr Ferres know as he keeps telling us there is know money available or we should let him get on with is job when he took the rains we where in a mess thats why nobody wanted the job people keep saying that we are worse than last year when we got a new coach people were righting i hope its not Agar or Kear and now there saying bring Kear in it showed what people thought about Kear when he was at Waky and the banner flew over saying now fear its only Kear but now he is the savior of the club the blame for last year should be pup where it belongs and that is at the door of Mr Wright
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| Nobody wanted the job - Incorrect.
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| All the names who were being talked about walked away, Mr Gentle supposedly signed sealed and delivered according to some now Hull FC Mr Noble [ no money walked away and rather be unemployed Mr Lamb suddenly personal reasons players say we want Mr Hay and keep things as they are a easy life
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| Quote ="frank5613"All the names who were being talked about walked away, Mr Gentle supposedly signed sealed and delivered according to some[=#0040FFneeds citation now Hull FC Mr Noble [ no money walked away and rather be unemployed Mr Lamb suddenly personal reasons players say we want Mr Hay and keep things as they are a easy life'"
Nobody said it would be easy, personally I'd stick with the coach, it's all too easy (or cheap) to dump the one trying to do the right thing and be left with the route problem(s) for someone else to deal with.
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| Quote ="frank5613"All the names who were being talked about walked away, Mr Gentle supposedly signed sealed and delivered according to some now Hull FC Mr Noble [ no money walked away and rather be unemployed Mr Lamb suddenly personal reasons players say we want Mr Hay and keep things as they are a easy life'"
Noble wasn't in the shortlist.
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| He may not have been in the shortlist because after is firt interview he told them to do one .
We gave Millward a three year contract and the only way he will be going any ware is if he says enough is enough because we do not have the money to pay him of
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| Quote ="Fully"Noble wasn't in the shortlist.'"
Out of interest; who was?
Was it just Basil?
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| If you believe what people say about Mr Fulton ringing Millward just before he signed for Waky, there cannot have been a shortlist
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| Quote ="frank5613"If you believe what people say about Mr Fulton ringing Millward just before he signed for Waky, there cannot have been a shortlist'"
But if you believe what people say about Agar being the only one on our short list, that means what you're people are saying is guff?!?!
Don't believe everything you here.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Out of interest; who was?
Was it just Basil?'"
Cannot say too much as was told in confidence.
But no it wasn't just Basil.
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| Quote ="frank5613"If you believe what people say about Mr Fulton ringing Millward just before he signed for Waky, there cannot have been a shortlist'"
That doesn't make sense?
The BoD could have decided on Millward from the shortlist and contacted him to ask him if he wanted the job?
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| It makes sense to me, i don't know if they had a shortlist or not most Cas fan are kept in the dark you get more information from the secret service than you do from Cas, all you get is roomers and half truths the only people that get to know ho wt is them in the know and they don't seem to know ho wt
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| Quote ="frank5613"It makes sense to me, i don't know if they had a shortlist or not most Cas fan are kept in the dark you get more information from the secret service than you do from Cas, all you get is roomers and half truths the only people that get to know ho wt is them in the know and they don't seem to know ho wt'"
That's how a club should be run.
People need to understand that most information is commercially sensitive.
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