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| Anything of note..no sound at work....
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| Quote ="Miserybusiness"Anything of note..no sound at work....'"
I wasn't aware there was a statement.
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| It’s a simple message but takes half an hour.
The guy who did recruitment has done a runner, as he overspent so much I'm making it look like we deliberately increased our player budget. The Board has ed off so many people that they won’t put any further money into the club, a lot of our “new” financial supporters have gone bust (despite being “quality” companies.)
We could buy the shay, Town DON’T want it, but only with a commercial partner who will build an hotel/houses and make a lot of brass. We have lots of good things ahead and we will do wonders next season.
However if there is any mug out there with any brass please come and see me. So I can buy the Shay and some players. (Marshalls must be rubbing their hands)
What a joke.
If he wants to be taken seriously put the full management accounts into the public domain.
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| Also they have put Director of Rugby responsibilities ontop of coaching responsibilities for Liam Finn. He is already unable to do one job now he has two to fail at.
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| Also talking about a pathway to Super League, at the moment the only pathway we are on is the one to Cornwall and North Wales Crusaders.
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| Quote ="Dbvada"
The guy who did recruitment has done a runner, as he overspent so much I'm making it look like we deliberately increased our player budget. The Board has vexed off so many people that they won’t put any further money into the club, a lot of our “new” financial supporters have gone bust (despite being “quality” companies.)
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I don't normally agree with you but I did chuckle at the way the increase in budget was dressed up almost like it were a deliberate act rather than someone being in charge of it who didn't have a clue what he was doing.
Who are these sponsors that have gone bust? Isn't the shortfall more to do with promises made by certain people who have one by one decided that it were no longer for them for whatever reason? It does sound like desparate times the way they are now asking for people to join the board and I just hope the people who took over do the right thing and give up their shares to any good people that they do get coming forward to be involved.
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| You F:@kers on here are never happy. Moan Maon about the club, saying they do nothing to keep you dedicated fans informed because you demand to know everything.
The club put out the video and explain why or why not certain things are explained publicly . Yet this isn’t good enough for you is it? The club needs us to turn up and put our money behind them (whatever the results) to help keep us having club. I think it was good to produce the video.
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| What I heard.
Yes the club is facing a lot of challenges ( as are many other clubs and most of the rest of society in today’s current financial climate. )
In the short term we’re not in a position to be buying the Shay but we have had meetings / talks with FCT and CMBC on a way forward with more to follow on improving the ground to suit both clubs.
To reflect the current financial situation next years playing budget will be reduced to a lower level than this years and it will now be the coach who manages the recruitment.
Some of the founding BoD have decided to step aside are the reason for Finn taking the roll in the short term and the reason for inviting any interested parties to come onto the board and even become CEO and take over / invest is the only way to change the current financial situation.
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| Quote ="Dbvada"It’s a simple message but takes half an hour.
The guy who did recruitment has done a runner, as he overspent so much I'm making it look like we deliberately increased our player budget. The Board has vexed off so many people that they won’t put any further money into the club, a lot of our “new” financial supporters have gone bust (despite being “quality” companies.)
We could buy the shay, Town DON’T want it, but only with a commercial partner who will build an hotel/houses and make a lot of brass. We have lots of good things ahead and we will do wonders next season.
However if there is any mug out there with any brass please come and see me. So I can buy the Shay and some players. (Marshalls must be rubbing their hands)
What a joke.
If he wants to be taken seriously put the full management accounts into the public domain.'"
I presume that you're not a supporter of the club - if you are God help us!
I disagree with a lot of what's written on this forum but can acept that other posters are not necessarily wrong but just have a different point of view.. Yes I think most would agree that we've not had value for money from this years recruitment- putting it in the hands of the person responsible for picking the team seems reasonably sensible. The rest of your post is such a twisting of the comments in the update as to not even be worth commenting on.
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| Lee Kenny’s chairman’s address was like a kid at Christmas waiting for a PlayStation , unwrapping it and it’s just a card board box with some orange peel in it.
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| You can never please some people; people wanted more insight and engagement, they got it, now they don't like the message. I thought Lee's address was measured and shared some insight; he even went as far as to say why certain other things can't be shared. People have got to realise that it is a business and not everything can be disclosed.
We are all disappointed that, when this board took over, they promised big things and in reality, the team has gone backwards; the whole partnership has fallen apart pretty quickly. I guess we just need to give the directors who are sticking by the club all the support we can and hope they can find the future partners they so desperately need quickly.
I guess we need to remember that it's their money that is keeping our team on the pitch.
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| Quote ="Ilkley Fax"I presume that you're not a supporter of the club - if you are God help us!
I disagree with a lot of what's written on this forum but can acept that other posters are not necessarily wrong but just have a different point of view.. Yes I think most would agree that we've not had value for money from this years recruitment- putting it in the hands of the person responsible for picking the team seems reasonably sensible. The rest of your post is such a twisting of the comments in the update as to not even be worth commenting on.'"
He is part of a group that have previously tried to take over the club so its safe to say he is quite bitter. One thing I never forget about the group is that one of them agreed to be a major sponsor before the start of one season and it got announced by the club only for the takeover to then fall through and he pull his sponsor ship just a couple of weeks before the season helping to leave the club in a bit of a mess.
On another note I don't get the moaning about people having a moan though. If Fax put out a signing video then people would offer opinions on the signing and some will be positive and some will be negative. Fax put out an info video which is fantastic to help keep people in the loop but you can't expect people not to comment on it and some of it is always going to be negative. I know my comments were negative and always have been towards this board because I always got the impression they wanted to take over the club as a status symbol rather than actually believing how hard the job in hand was going to be. I'm not happy to be proved right and I hope we can get some more serious parties involved after this cry for help.
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| Quote ="Listenup94"Lee Kenny’s chairman’s address was like a kid at Christmas waiting for a PlayStation , unwrapping it and it’s just a card board box with some orange peel in it.'"
My grandson would be overjoyed with that! Lol!
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| Is it just me or shouldn't it be the case that the coach of a team should always be the person in charge of recruitment?
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| Maybe if Hudd-Shay donated his daily beer spending to the club, Fax's financial worries would be over!
I thought the update was informative, even though I think Lee Kenny needs to get some specs that fit him cos he kept prodding them up! Certainly need to get things moving with the Shay. Give it to Town and Fax, knock down the unused Skircoat Stand replacing with some kind of community centre / hotel accommodation / room hire / match day bar - let's get some sizeable other income streams. Target season tickets / mini season tickets. They're trying the family ticket of £40 for 2 adults and 2 kids - what if you don't have any kids! Still think it's too expensive anyway. Prefer a 3 match ticket for £45, more preferable to fans who don't want to commit to a full season because of holidays or a ground switch (like the Haven game).
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Is it just me or shouldn't it be the case that the coach of a team should always be the person in charge of recruitment?'" Should always have the final say on whether a player is required at the club,while a DOF deals with the contract,accomodation etc etc..Think Finn inherited players,including Widdop,who he may not of wanted...at least the buck stops with him now and there's no excuses...
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Maybe if Hudd-Shay donated his daily beer spending to the club, Fax's financial worries would be over!
I thought the update was informative, even though I think Lee Kenny needs to get some specs that fit him cos he kept prodding them up! Certainly need to get things moving with the Shay. Give it to Town and Fax, knock down the unused Skircoat Stand replacing with some kind of community centre / hotel accommodation / room hire / match day bar - let's get some sizeable other income streams. Target season tickets / mini season tickets. They're trying the family ticket of £40 for 2 adults and 2 kids - what if you don't have any kids! Still think it's too expensive anyway. Prefer a 3 match ticket for £45, more preferable to fans who don't want to commit to a full season because of holidays or a ground switch (like the Haven game).'"
Hudd-Shay is very adept at drinking a lot but spending very little...I like Lee Kenny but admitting he knows little about rugby including how many points a victory gets..has to be a slight concern..
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"
On another note I don't get the moaning about people having a moan though. If Fax put out a signing video then people would offer opinions on the signing and some will be positive and some will be negative. Fax put out an info video which is fantastic to help keep people in the loop but you can't expect people not to comment on it and some of it is always going to be negative. I know my comments were negative and always have been towards this board because I always got the impression they wanted to take over the club as a status symbol rather than actually believing how hard the job in hand was going to be. I'm not happy to be proved right and I hope we can get some more serious parties involved after this cry for help.'"
We wouldn't be from Yorkshire if we didn't have a moan about something, especially moaning about the moaning
Happy Yorkshire Day
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| Everybody knows that unless you have a millionaire backer you are always going to be struggling along, Lee Kenny whilst admitting he knew little about running a rugby league club mentioned it.
Fax aren’t the only club past and present to be in this situation with several clubs seeing a number of changes of ownership and BoD simply because having a few £10 grand or even a few £100 grand doesn’t last long and when it’s gone it’s gone even some millionaires have seen little to show for the amount they’ve ploughed in.
Anything could happen, we may just keep limping along or pass the baton to another group with similar lack of financial clout, we may go bust or we may get one or several millionaire backers who know just how to run a rugby league club.
What do you think, for me it’s very unlikely it will be the last option, is there anybody out there that even meets that criteria?
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I don't normally agree with you but I did chuckle at the way the increase in budget was dressed up almost like it were a deliberate act rather than someone being in charge of it who didn't have a clue what he was doing.
Who are these sponsors that have gone bust? Isn't the shortfall more to do with promises made by certain people who have one by one decided that it were no longer for them for whatever reason? It does sound like desparate times the way they are now asking for people to join the board and I just hope the people who took over do the right thing and give up their shares to any good people that they do get coming forward to be involved.'"
Looking on companies house it’s Colfax windows that sponsor our away shirt that are in liquidation.
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| Quote ="MP"Looking on companies house it’s Colfax windows that sponsor our away shirt that are in liquidation.'"
And as Lee Kenny clearly mentioned, in business your chain linked to other business / customers and as so often happens you only need one of those links to encounter problems and go under and it’s passed on to the rest of the chain, everybody knows it.
It’s even been mentioned only this week on here that it might be a good idea to go into administration to clear the debt and start again.
What effect would that have on the people / businesses etc that Fax owe money to, not a good one and how would that be their fault
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| While all the issues that Lee talked about are important the biggest one is trying to get someone to invest in the club. How many times do you hear we can't compete with other sides who own their own ground because of the extra funds that gives them. Good luck to him and the rest of the board because if they can it would be a massive game changer for us.
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| There's no such thing as investors in rugby league. Only benefactors.
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