I'll start this. These are my views on playing a superleague team with a superleague referee (yeh right). Widnes were offside at most plays, by virtue of the fact that they start running when we started to put the ball to the ground, rather than when the ball is played. I lost count of The number of forward passes that went un punished, or un noticed, with the exception of the one we did, which gave them the field position fit their second try. Hicks obviously forgot his contact lenses today as he constantly had to ask his touch judges what happened, one try scored by Widnes had a knock on and a clear forward pass, but he ruled it out for a double movement.



No sour grapes as I went to the game expecting a loss but came away really proud of the defence and the spirit shown by the whole team. Onwards to the next game.

I agree the score line flattered them I wish we could have kept them out for 2 more minutes how good would 4-0 have looked? I also partly agree about the Ref he gave us very, very little but we coughed the ball up far too often today and that killed us but our defence was AWESOME, what an effort we knocked them down time after time.
We just tired at the end which cost us.

The reffing was awful. No question about that. We played well against full time players and a one sided ref. I don't normally knock refs but today was worse than awful and a full time time!!!

But we showed how far have we have come on in a season. I'm feeling excitded for next year already. I would keep this squad. Anyway back to today, well done lads a great great effort. I feel a bit flat like we when your winning and then lose in the last few seconds. That's because we played so well and I thought we would win.
Fantastic Fax!!!!

RM did question some of the interpretations after the game and did say that he wished the teams performance was reffed on how it were instead of how Championship teams were meant to play the game.

To be 0-4 down with 4 minutes to play is a testament to how far this team has come and our defence for a champioship team is first class, we can have a big say in this league and will not be here to make up the numbers. With a couple of good additions next season we should be able to push for the top 2 whoever is in this league. We have the platform, I mean in the forwards we have simply looked bigger and fitter than than any other team in this league and with our young players improving all the time I simply cant wait for next season. Oh and next week.

I agree with all the above posts. I hate losing but today was as good as a loss gets. Off to Hull next week and let's go again. Up The Fax! Victorian Café Bar. Brunswick Rocket 4.7 % Mmm!

I agree with all the above posts. I hate losing but today was as good as a loss gets. Off to Hull next week and let's go again. Up The Fax! Victorian Café Bar. Brunswick Rocket 4.7 % Mmm!

Widnes fan here!

First and foremost, well done on your performance. You out enthused us showed good character throughout. Your fitness more than matched ours too

Don't want to sound big headed, but even though we were dire I never thought we would lose. Felt we could step it up a couple of gears if we needed to.

Scott Murrell was quality, showed our halfbacks how to kick for starters, but hardly noticed your other halfback (Robinson?). Richard Moore targeted Kevin Brown throughout, and contributed to Kev's diabolical performance. Saltonstall played well too, plenty of energy.

Surprised you're mentioning the officials. He disallowed 3 Widnes try's, one was a certain try, so I'm not sure how he's being biased towards the bigger club. I think the RFL should come out and clarify things, are we playing SL rules or Championship as the ruck is totally different.


Think you'll do well in this daft new league, can see you beating Wakey + Sheffield at least.

Brown is not a great player. He's ok

As for the ruck, bloody hell we were penalised for laying on, flopping ect. Widnes did the same slowed the play and
Never got penalised. There are no rule differences.

Fitness. We were as fit as you.
You won and did deserve it..... Just.
I listened to radio Leeds after RM said we played the top of the bottom 4 of SL today and lost by 14. Which flattered you. Your 'stars' look like decent RL players nothing special. If I were a Victims fan, sorry Vikings fan I would be worried about your up coming fixtures. You could be fighting for you SL place.
It was good to see a large support form you today and hopes you enjoyed it at the Shay.

We all enjoyed it, always a great day at the Shay...

That was the worst performance we have had all season, we were terrible (without taking anything away from you). I can't explain how bad we were. We played 4 players who have just come back from long term injuries and a player who's only been in this country for 10 days, so it was always going to be a little disjointed, just didn't expect it to be [ithat[/i disjointed. We've got too much quality in the squad to go down. Plus we've also got the iPitch which people go on and on and on about...

Super League rucks are a lots slower defensively, mainly due to all the boring wrestling that takes place. Wrestling to that extent doesn't happen in the Championship.

Which was the certain try? The miles forward pass, the miles offside one from a kick, or the double movement one?

I thought the ruck was too slow and a quicker one would have benefited us.

You will be fine though, you will hammer both Bradford and Sheffield.

If you think that wrestling does not happen in the championship you have never seen a game reffed by Mr Crashley. Dont worry about the worst performance comment, the last 9 teams we beat also pulled out their worst performances of the season against us, Fev even had 38 players(their full squad) come down with food poisoning before the game.

Ha ha! I wouldn't have thought I would ever hear that. SL rucks slower than the Championship. But that shouldn't detract from the poor reffing. If the tackling team are slow to get of the attacking player it should be penalised. Not ignored because SL do it slower. Glad you enjoyed yourself and I hope you knock 10 bells out of the Bulls.

Well played today and to be honest Widnes where not at their best. A few just coming back from long term injuries too. Brown,Tickle,Runciman and White will get better. In my opinion Flynn should be playing befor Ah Van. Anyway goodluck in the rest of your games and i am sure you will win a few games. Beat Salford and Wakefield.

A bit simplamatic to say Widnes were not at their best, players coming back etc etc.
The simple fact is we had a prop coming back from 10 weeks off, players who can only train twice a week, and are playing every weekend because of our small squad.
"Widnes were not at their best" my ar-s that's because we made them that way.

Both teams defended really well. We were just shocking going forward. Brown had a stinker and we seemed to play ultra careful, not throwing the ball about at all.

I would totally agree 14-0 totally flattered us and id even consider us lucky to have won.

There was me thinking you must have played well, you were unlucky etc, then I read the final comment. All I can think now 'bunch of t0ssers, glad you got stuffed'.

So proud of that effort today. Just lack a bit of class to open up defences in tight games like that.

Gonna be hard to back this up week in week out.

Rotation is going to be key. Assuming the squad is fully fit we should have divorty, robbo, potts, clem, spencer, ecclestone that can all come in and do a job.

Anyone know if we still have luke menzies or mikey wood?

Mikey Wood was in the warm up and I think Menzies went back.

Nice trip out to Halifax and as always it was a tough one, i don't think either side played great at times but it was an enjoyable trip and at least it didn't rain.



Impressed with Manning, he has a terrific engine on him and the small guy with his socks around his ankles (Johnson?) is always threat with his speed, Saltonstall also impressive. How we didn't manage to score with all the possession in the first half is beyond me but well done and good luck in your remaining fixtures.

Only an opinion and anyway who cares the points in the bag.

Oh come on! Your our nearest and dearest of course I want to see you lose.

Oh come on! your our nearest and dearest of course I want to see you lose

From the Widnes forum:-



Another poster saying if they scored early they would run up a cricket score. Its ok to have an opinion but clueless people should not be able to offer one.

And if my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle.
They didn't score because we stopped them, as they stopped us. It was a proper blood and guts game not the usual 96-54 you get in SL.

Really enjoyed it, well done to all.

Every own forum has a bias even the Fax one.



Anyway the table wont lie at the end of the competition, as it will be the best teams in the top 4. Anyway i thought our attack was crap yesterday, but i will give credit to Fax for your defence though. Hopefully you can keep the intensity up for the rest of the games too.