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| Sam last night on Facebook
" 30 consecutive tackles on the line, Poor attack or great defence "
Then goes on to say he puts it down to poor attack. Didnt take long to put the knife in did it. Shame he couldnt put any effort it when here this year.
Matt Calland Replies,
" Need an Attack Coach eh Sam, My teams never struggled to score against anybody !!!! ".
Damn right they could and it was the most entertaining rugby i had seen in many years, Lets get Matt back in place of Lee Greenwood and then we can have a attack and defence. Halifax team would be sorted.
I have taken a bit to post after last night and thought i would not be too reactional about the loss, but we are seriously poor and Boring to watch again. NRC Flop, Challenge cup early exit, Playoffs to come and not holding out for much. Putting everything together PISSPOOR season.
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| Someone else, a Leigh supporter has posted Sam was applauding when Leigh scored.
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| Think he should play, he's a shoe in for getting sent off.
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| Sam is a Fax lad through and through. Nobody knows truly why he left and I am certain he would have stayed for the rest of his career has the situation allowed.
Although - he did like his Nando's a bit too much!!!
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| Quote ="Faxhali"Sam last night on Facebook
" 30 consecutive tackles on the line, Poor attack or great defence "
Then goes on to say he puts it down to poor attack. Didnt take long to put the knife in did it. Shame he couldnt put any effort it when here this year.
Matt Calland Replies,
" Need an Attack Coach eh Sam, My teams never struggled to score against anybody !!!! ".
Damn right they could and it was the most entertaining rugby i had seen in many years, Lets get Matt back in place of Lee Greenwood and then we can have a attack and defence. Halifax team would be sorted.
I have taken a bit to post after last night and thought i would not be too reactional about the loss, but we are seriously poor and Boring to watch again. NRC Flop, Challenge cup early exit, Playoffs to come and not holding out for much. Putting everything together PISSPOOR season.'"
Well, Sam couldn't get into this so called "poor" team which must make him "worse than poor"? And (as I've just pointed out on another thread), Calland had to be "relieved" from his duties by Brian Noble which doesn't say much for his own coaching abilities either. As they say, "the proof is in the pudding"!
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Well, Sam couldn't get into this so called "poor" team which must make him "worse than poor"? And (as I've just pointed out on another thread), Calland had to be "relieved" from his duties by Brian Noble which doesn't say much for his own coaching abilities either. As they say, "the proof is in the pudding"!'"
Tony whilst I agree with what you say, we both know Calland wasn't "relieved" from his duties because of his coaching abilities. "Allegedly"
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| Much as I like Sam as a bloke & admire his rugby playing when he's fit & on form, I'm not convinced it was very wise posting that message of Facebook. I'd read it myself & texted several mutual friends to see if they'd read it too & what were their opinions. All of this Twitter/Facebook stuff can be very damaging sometimes.
There are obviously issues under-lying, bubbling away.
I find the "Sam can't play against Halifax this season" clause frustrating as a supporter of Halifax RLFC I would have rather he be allowed to pull on a Fev shirt against us if & when that may happen. From what I understand Sam will be a Leyther next season & the year after, I'll wish him all the best playing for them, but I don't have it in me to wish him all the best in a Fev shirt at the moment, we all know the recent rivalry, the only club I didn't want a Halifax player to go to in fact.
Having watched Sam & Josh since they were juniors, I really feel that he should have been playing in SL on his next contract, time will tell & I remember chatting to Josh not that very long ago about his lack of 1st team opportunities at Halifax and offering him my opinion.
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| Hmm, if he's put those things and applauded Leigh scoring then he's dafter than I thought but he's obviously got issues with the club, or certain people within it, and would be better off keeping quiet and letting his playing do the talking.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Well, Sam couldn't get into this so called "poor" team which must make him "worse than poor"? And (as I've just pointed out on another thread), Calland had to be "relieved" from his duties by Brian Noble which doesn't say much for his own coaching abilities either. As they say, "the proof is in the pudding"!'"
Tony, Calland was not relieved from his position due to anything Rugby related, I am sure some people will know why and others will be still in the dark, However, His record speaks for itself, It has been the most exciting time to watch HRLFC in a decade, We won the Grand Finals and were runners up, We smashed teams off the park with some of the most entertaining rugby league in the country, The atmosphere at the ground was fantastic, Some games now there is better atmospheres at Wakes than there is at the shay. Noble was brought in for his defensive work and if i remember correctly, it was to do with off field things like looking at the back room etc and how we could improve on our SL franchise application for the next time round, He was a "consultant".
In my own opinion, Martin Hall and Matt Calland were the best duo ( and lets be honest Martin was still involved even though he threw himself on the sword over the Ostick Challenge cup debacle ) the coaching team had had in years. They recruited the right players and what a team it was.
on a side note, what is Martin Hall up to now does anyone know, is he still in the RL circle ?.
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| As far as I am aware he lives in Devon / Cornwall now and is a consultant regarding construction, buildings or summat like that....??
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| Quote ="Faxhali"Tony, Calland was not relieved from his position due to anything Rugby related, I am sure some people will know why and others will be still in the dark, However, His record speaks for itself, It has been the most exciting time to watch HRLFC in a decade, We won the Grand Finals and were runners up, We smashed teams off the park with some of the most entertaining rugby league in the country, The atmosphere at the ground was fantastic, Some games now there is better atmospheres at Wakes than there is at the shay. Noble was brought in for his defensive work and if i remember correctly, it was to do with off field things like looking at the back room etc and how we could improve on our SL franchise application for the next time round, He was a "consultant".
In my own opinion, Martin Hall and Matt Calland were the best duo ( and lets be honest Martin was still involved even though he threw himself on the sword over the Ostick Challenge cup debacle ) the coaching team had had in years. They recruited the right players and what a team it was.
on a side note, what is Martin Hall up to now does anyone know, is he still in the RL circle ?.'"
Faxhali, if Calland would have carried on coaching "by himself" we would have been relegated. Believe me. And I totally disagree with your claim that the atmosphere was electric under Calland .... indeed, the atmos was quite sour, in particular with that horror start to the 2011 campaign ....
Toulouse (A) - Lost 26-12
Fev (H) - Lost 32-20
Sheffield (A) - Lost 41-22
Leigh (H) - Lost 32-22
Dewsbury (H) - Won 56-24
Barrow (H) - Lost 43-25
Fev (A) - Lost 30-18
I remember Noble's appointment (round about the Fev away game) being greeted with a resounding "thank god for that" (whether the reason was rugby related or not). So please don't give me your rose tinted specs rubbish.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"Faxhali, if Calland would have carried on coaching "by himself" we would have been relegated. Believe me. And I totally disagree with your claim that the atmosphere was electric under Calland .... indeed, the atmos was quite sour, in particular with that horror start to the 2011 campaign ....
Toulouse (A) - Lost 26-12
Fev (H) - Lost 32-20
Sheffield (A) - Lost 41-22
Leigh (H) - Lost 32-22
Dewsbury (H) - Won 56-24
Barrow (H) - Lost 43-25
Fev (A) - Lost 30-18
I remember Noble's appointment (round about the Fev away game) being greeted with a resounding "thank god for that" (whether the reason was rugby related or not). So please don't give me your rose tinted specs rubbish.'"
Yes Tony but Toulouse away was still a great weekend, third year in a row, won 2 lost 1, win or lose we were on the booze.
Am I allowed a
Or better still a
Certainly having a tonight so won't be on my
Regards.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Yes Tony but Toulouse away was still a great weekend, third year in a row, won 2 lost 1, win or lose we were on the booze.
Am I allowed a
Or better still a
Certainly having a
tonight so won't be on my
Regards.'"
'Twas no "dancing" matter back then, johnny. Things improved slightly (on the defence!) after Noble jumped on board, as results picked up thus:
Sheffield (H) - Won 14-12 (Attendance 1,700 - what's this electric crowd then?)
Leigh (A) - Won 36-16 (Leigh's first defeat of the season - maybe Charlie remembers)
Hunslet (H) - Won 24-18 (Scored a last minute try to save our blushes!)
Batley (H) - Lost 28-36 (Karl Harrison's team seemed very creative that day against Fax's new "Noble-led" defence)
Dewsbury (A) - Won 30-16 (We were 14 nil down at one stage, and if we had lost that, we would have been in real trouble!)
Barrow (A) - Won 24-16 (After Big Frank had been sent off!)
York (H) - Won 76-38 (Penky ran the show)
Toulouse (H) - Won 44-28 (But they had a perfectly good try disallowed near the end which could have changed things)
Batley (A) - Lost 18-16 (Harrison's team does it again!)
Widnes (H) - Won 26-24 (Tyrer's late run should have snatched it for Widnes)
York (A) - Lost 22-8 (Bad one that, not even a bonus point at lowly York)
Hunslet (A) - Won 34-24 (Real end of season stuff that was)
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"'Twas no "dancing" matter back then, johnny. Things improved slightly (on the defence!) after Noble jumped on board, as results picked up thus:
Sheffield (H) - Won 14-12 (Attendance 1,700 - what's this electric crowd then?)
Leigh (A) - Won 36-16 (Leigh's first defeat of the season - maybe Charlie remembers)
Hunslet (H) - Won 24-18 (Scored a last minute try to save our blushes!)
Batley (H) - Lost 28-36 (Karl Harrison's team seemed very creative that day against Fax's new "Noble-led" defence)
Dewsbury (A) - Won 30-16 (We were 14 nil down at one stage, and if we had lost that, we would have been in real trouble!)
Barrow (A) - Won 24-16 (After Big Frank had been sent off!)
York (H) - Won 76-38 (Penky ran the show)
Toulouse (H) - Won 44-28 (But they had a perfectly good try disallowed near the end which could have changed things)
Batley (A) - Lost 18-16 (Harrison's team does it again!)
Widnes (H) - Won 26-24 (Tyrer's late run should have snatched it for Widnes)
York (A) - Lost 22-8 (Bad one that, not even a bonus point at lowly York)
Hunslet (A) - Won 34-24 (Real end of season stuff that was)'"
Get your anorak off and come for a drink.
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| I'm sure as Sam matures and moves on he'll reflect on how undignified making rash comments can seem..
I still remember when Rowley went to Hudds he came out with some parting shots in the press, these lads forget that written words in the press or online can come back to haunt you..
Don't burn bridges I think is the most apt saying, Sams a Fax lad, the board, players and coaches may come and go, but the fans usually stay and we've been cheering him and lining his pockets, I hope he remains calm and dignified. If he can sort his head out I'd have no problem with him coming back home one day, there aren't many players who can drag 3 blokes along and then off load, Rhino could do it, and Sam can do it, Rhinos discipline was light years ahead though. Sams probably not peaked yet.
Just to get the thread back on track
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| Quote ="justthebasicfax"I'm sure as Sam matures and moves on he'll reflect on how undignified making rash comments can seem..
I still remember when Rowley went to Hudds he came out with some parting shots in the press, these lads forget that written words in the press or online can come back to haunt you..
Don't burn bridges I think is the most apt saying, Sams a Fax lad, the board, players and coaches may come and go, but the fans usually stay and we've been cheering him and lining his pockets, I hope he remains calm and dignified. If he can sort his head out I'd have no problem with him coming back home one day, there aren't many players who can drag 3 blokes along and then off load, Rhino could do it, and Sam can do it, Rhinos discipline was light years ahead though. Sams probably not peaked yet.
Just to get the thread back on track
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And may I add, an excellent perspective post.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"And may I add, an excellent perspective post.
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You just wanna have the last word don't you pal ? LOL
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| Quote ="marillion man"You just wanna have the last word don't you pal ? LOL'"
Well I never get it at home, or the last word.
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| Very disappointing if he really was applauding when Leigh scored. Surely has more respect for his (only just) former team mates than that! You'd think he would anyway.
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