what aload off rubbish, widnes got 9 points so why different for them,?? www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/25 ... e-6-points

what aload off rubbish, widnes got 9 points so why different for them,?? www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/25 ... e-6-points

Same punishment really as it is the equivalent of three wins! 6 points in SL, 9 points in Championship! A points deduction in a franchised league, is a very poor punishment IMO Bradford could quite easliy still make the play-offs.

Wakefield and Crusaders only got deducted 4, so can hardly say Bulls have been treated favorably in this instance.

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Worse still, a points deduction in a league with play-offs. Trouble is, what else can you do ? Fine them ?

Not going to help much, is it?

You could deduct 20 points "to make an example" of them but really, would it deter some bonkers chairmen from driving their club into the ground? Nope. Peter Hood wouldn't care a toss what the deduction was because he's out of there and so would most chairmen be if Administration came knocking.

The RFL have to come up with another method of preventing chairmen from destroying their club. If indeed it is their responsibility? I happen to think it is - RFL apologists and bottom wipers think it isn't. Put it this way, if the RFL can sit and pontificate over a clubs' suitability for a license then they have to take responsibility for a clubs' financial behaviour. They can't act like billy big bollax on that podium when dishing out licenses but then hide behind it when a club messes all over the floor. They've gotta clean that up too.

I don't know what the answer is - some kind of "live" monitoring of finances? How could they have forseen or stopped Bradford from racking the debts up? Do they stop Huddersfield and London from doing what they're doing now? (selling the game cheap and spending way way over their income?). Something has to give because there could be 3 or 4 more clubs doing what Bradford have done shortly. Maybe a realisation that some clubs cannot actually afford a fully FT squad?

I assume then that the SL will rubber stamp the new club by Friday too, confirming the demands of the buyer.
Sure I saw somewhere last week that It was pointless docking them points prior to being saved. The day after a confirmed bid is received, even tho the rfl have two major factors that they cannot apparently assure the consortium about, we have the deduction.

By tomorrow the lease will be sold and I presume some understanding is reached on the newco bulls place in SL. Can of worms, lid, hold onto your hats

Ive just heard a strong rumour that the deal is dead in the water and that its the business men that have pulled out meaning the club will be liquidated on Friday. Personally I cant see the RFL letting that happen but that is from somebody at the Bulls.

somebody at the bulls? lol who theres only players left aint there?

Pretty much yes.

I have to say that I am extremely suspicious of the motives of the ABC consortium in wanting to buy the Bulls.

Firstly, why would they want to buy them for love of the game? It is not a sport which the Asian community is generally interested in. They are more interested in Cricket and Hockey. I have seen very few Asian players over the years and very few Asian supporters at games.

Secondly, if it's not for the sport do they see a lucrative investment opportunity? I very much doubt it. How many professional sport's clubs make a profit and especially RL clubs?

Thirdly, they are stipulating that they must be allowed to buy back the Odsal lease from the RFL and the Bulls must be guaranteed a new license. Why can't they just continue to rent Odsal for the time being, it would greatly reduce their initial outlay?

I may sound suspicious and cynical but I strongly suspect that ownership of Odsal is their primary aim and the license application is just a shrewd distraction from that purpose.

These are the types of "predators" the RFL wanted to protect against when they gave Bradford over a million squid for the lease. Now looks like they'll be selling it back at a fraction of that price- to predators!! Normally at this point I'd say "you couldn't write this stuff" but this is the land of the RFL - where fairy stories and tales of horror glide effortlessly into real life documentary.

There is some sort of live monitoring but the question is how much do you want to spend on monitoring people who should be doing the right job in the first place ?

Personally, I wouldn't permit borrowing off the chairman or any other director. If they want to give a club some money, fine. I'd make exceptions for maybe some capital project that would generate income but there'd have to be a realistic repayment programme in place and if that programme's not met, the director chips in the shortfall.

It's only by "lifting the veil" of incorporacy and making directors truly responsible financially for the risks they take that we'll get back to reality.

Of course, this would all be totally unpalatable to the clubs and it'll never get passed. So we're stuck with what we've got.

In the meantime, we can all help by not calling on the directors to sign Billy Slater everytime we lose more than two games in a row.

Only one team in the league wins the Grand Final.

Having just had the privilege to listen and watch last nights state broadcast from our glorious leaders, sorry I mean rugby leagues weekly magazine show, boots n all, in which Stadler and Waldoff got to air the super league vision and it's need to maintain the status quo, a six point penalty is as bad as It will get.

Eddie interviews big Nige stating he thinks Nige isn't keen on P and R, about as keen as he Is on lettuce, manages to highlight how great the current system is and that relegating teams from SL like us, Leigh and workington, shows its flawed. we weren't ever good enough to return it seems. Poor club structure and not able to attract fans according to momentum man.

The league must allow the newco Akbar-e-Bullti RL2012 the chance to thrive, don't allow other clubs to decimate the playing staff and give them a chance to still reach the play offs. Maybe they could also loan them some players too, or ask a hard working club board like hull kr to do the honourable thing and step aside to ensure they get in.

Every passing day makes me more frustrated with the way our game is run, I then look at my club and realise that rl will survive this madness and top down propaganda. Give me blackpool and a weekend with another true recent rl success story and let the bulls have a six point slap on the arris and another three years of super dooper success.

John Kear was all but mocked for changing his opinion of licensing. Just because he's now at a championship club. That is exactly why he's changed you pair of muppetts, he, unlike many others has genuine experience of the matter in hand and can see its flawed even if simple P and R isn't the whole answer.

Anyway, sorry about the long rant. Now then, Where's mi jar of coppers for the penny push machines at the oasis arcade, that is what's important to me!