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| Should there now not be also an internal investigation at red hall about how this scenario has happened twice in three years?
We at Fax now have to take the punishment on the chin but surely the RFL are somewhat accountable having this happen twice in three years and the only reason they found out this year was because of a fans messageboard which strikes me just as bad as the way Fax have handled the situation?
There must be a way of spotting that a club has played an ineligable player or a system whereas when a newly signed player is registered that it is red flagged that they have played in previous rounds with the RFL and that information is then passed to the club.
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| Quote ="urbancarrot"Should there now not be also an internal investigation at red hall about how this scenario has happened twice in three years?
We at Fax now have to take the punishment on the chin but surely the RFL are somewhat accountable having this happen twice in three years and the only reason they found out this year was because of a fans messageboard which strikes me just as bad as the way Fax have handled the situation?
There must be a way of spotting that a club has played an ineligable player or a system whereas when a newly signed player is registered that it is red flagged that they have played in previous rounds with the RFL and that information is then passed to the club.'"
sorry owd cock, it's happened cos some dozy @rse at fax got it wrong!!! It's simple - no player can player for 2 clubs in one season! Obey the rules!! ? Fax didn't and are paying the price - move on!! Why is it necessary to waste time and money on an investigation when this is a fax club foul up??
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"sorry owd cock, it's happened cos some dozy @rse at fax got it wrong!!! It's simple - no player can player for 2 clubs in one season! Obey the rules!! ? Fax didn't and are paying the price - move on!! Why is it necessary to waste time and money on an investigation when this is a fax club foul up??'"
Because it shouldnt have taken the RFL until less than 3hrs before kick off to actually take action about this. They had the team sheet for 3 weeks but still didnt notice!!!
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"sorry owd cock, it's happened cos some dozy @rse at fax got it wrong!!! It's simple - no player can player for 2 clubs in one season! Obey the rules!! ? Fax didn't and are paying the price - move on!! Why is it necessary to waste time and money on an investigation when this is a fax club foul up??'"
Am not denying that for one second this is entirely a Halifax debacle but surely the RFL should/could have noticed our mess up earlier? It has taken three weeks and a fans message board for this to materialise which I don't think is all that good for a governing body of a major sport.
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| Quote ="griffax"Because it shouldnt have taken the RFL until less than 3hrs before kick off to actually take action about this. They had the team sheet for 3 weeks but still didnt notice!!!'"
aye that point I'll live with. But an investigation as to why it happened???? Are you serious? It happened cos some numpty at fax made a foul up! Accept it. Calland may well be on his way and you actuallymight use a seige mentality and come out of this a bit stronger don't you think?
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"you actually might use a seige mentality and come out of this a bit stronger don't you think?'"
Indeed. It's an opportunity to conduct a complete overhaul throughout the club. Look at the example of Leigh. Down and out last year - one of the worst teams in the league and relegated. Saved by someone else's misfortune they have now pulled themselves up by the boot straps and are one of the best teams in the division.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"sorry owd cock, it's happened cos some dozy @rse at fax got it wrong!!! It's simple - no player can player for 2 clubs in one season! Obey the rules!! ? Fax didn't and are paying the price - move on!! Why is it necessary to waste time and money on an investigation when this is a fax club foul up??'"
think you will find there is a rule that states a player can play in the cup for two different clubs.
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| which rule and a reference to it please
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| Quote ="swifty62"think you will find there is a rule that states a player can play in the cup for two different clubs.'"
If he has written dispensation to do so and that is usually only in exceptional circumstances - which this isn't! Tho I'll take the point swifty, however slender it is!
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| Quote ="shizonamy"which rule and a reference to it please
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was quoted on one of the threads here the other day.
said if plays for a non-member club can play for member club after certain date.
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| Quote ="swifty62"was quoted on one of the threads here the other day.
said if plays for a non-member club can play for member club after certain date.'"
There is, didn't some aussies play for a French team and then for Gateshead last year?
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| Quote ="swifty62"think you will find there is a rule that states a player can play in the cup for two different clubs.'" Not at a professional level though.
Someone could play for one of the Armed Forces in one round and play for professional club in later round (as happened at Oldham couple of years ago) or in theory we could have signed someone from Siddal after they beat Doncaster and then played him against Swinton (unlikely seen as half of them have already been here before and released!).
Basically a non-RFL member club player can also play for a RFL member club in same season but you can't play for 2 member clubs in same season as has happened with us.
I guess the French side mentioned in last post are not members of RFL so could legitimately play for Gateshead too?
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| Quote ="shelfsox"Not at a professional level though.
Someone could play for one of the Armed Forces in one round and play for professional club in later round (as happened at Oldham couple of years ago) or in theory we could have signed someone from Siddal after they beat Doncaster and then played him against Swinton (unlikely seen as half of them have already been here before and released!).
Basically a non-RFL member club player can also play for a RFL member club in same season but you can't play for 2 member clubs in same season as has happened with us.
I guess the French side mentioned in last post are not members of RFL so could legitimately play for Gateshead too?'"
did not say at professional level, i just answered the question.
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| Quote ="swifty62"i just answered the question.'" So did I, its just that I elaborated to save any further replies asking for reference or rule number....
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| Wheres Tony? Im worried
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| Quote ="urbancarrot"Should there now not be also an internal investigation at red hall about how this scenario has happened twice in three years?
We at Fax now have to take the punishment on the chin but surely the RFL are somewhat accountable having this happen twice in three years and the only reason they found out this year was because of a fans messageboard which strikes me just as bad as the way Fax have handled the situation?
There must be a way of spotting that a club has played an ineligable player or a system whereas when a newly signed player is registered that it is red flagged that they have played in previous rounds with the RFL and that information is then passed to the club.'"
Yer as I have put elsewhere this mess up must never happen again, it is bad enough letting it ALMOST slip through the net but even worse to only take action on the day of the game.
Surely a filter to see who played for who aint too difficult is it?
Something like a spreadsheet of players who played in one round in alphabetical order are compared to one for the next rounds just to check?
Too simple that for our wonderful RFL.
Like politicians they play to what tune they think we want to hear or more likely the powerful ones who tell them what to do.
Who runs the RFL???
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| To be perfectly honest about this whole situation, I'd have to say the RFL are at least as much to blame as Halifax. Yes Halifax should have done checks and it should not have happened, but the RFL should be policing this rule and they should have put measures and checks in place to ensure that no club could ever play inelligible players after the embarrassment of the Thackeray incident 2 years ago. Yet it takes a post on a message board to bring this incident to anyones attention. I fear the worst for you in the subsequent misconduct investigation as the RFL are sure to pass on any blame in the whole affair. There seems to be a lot of talk on here about casting blame to Calland, the board, even ShayFax who posted this in the first place, but the real incompetence IMO is from the RFL for allowing this incident to happen again in such a short space of time.
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| If the RFL can't monitor the issue of player elegability for cup games, how on earth can they monitor bigger issues like the Salery Cap. By relying on RL Forums and e-mails presumably
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| Quote ="Les West Guitar God"If the RFL can't monitor the issue of player elegability for cup games, how on earth can they monitor bigger issues like the Salery Cap. By relying on RL Forums and e-mails presumably'"
They're far too bloomin' blinkered over expansion if you ask me.
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