Have you seen smokeys post on the VT ? , he suggests a 30 match season can be done with 13 teams

I think sky love the lsv because they can just turn up,plug in and start filming,which saves them an awful lot of money

I don't know how you have the patience with that mathematical Magic Weekend statistic. You've been putting people right on that for months and months and months. Douchebags.

Its years , not months , but smokey not thinking it through just makes it even better

And I'm not an accountant

After they have plugged in and started filming I think they will be interested in how many have plugged in and turned on at home to watch the show.

Wasn't it Fax that had the highest viewing figures from the Championship on a fairly regular basis when it was under the Sky people?

Probably , but that was when you played decent RL in 2011 BK

Just got another one

I dont know if you were or not but you were very entertaining to watch under calland thats for sure,tho i bet, a little frustrating at times

Yep, but the plan is to replay those games again as if it is now and hope no one notices.



Back to Fev, SL and Nahaboo.

There has been comments going around on the subject of what he see's at Fev that he didn't see at Fax as if there is something better with Rovers.

That may well be the case as he see's it but he not only had a dabble with Halifax but also Cas and Wigan.

No disrespect and it's just a cautious approach but does it not look strange that he would choose to plumb for Fev to spend these 6 and 7 figures sums.

What advantage does he see in Fev over the other clubs he has had some involvement in.

If he was that keen on rugby league and SL why did he not choose a club allready there and nearer to the top plenty to choose from who would have loved some cash injection.

What is driving this, the motive is always a key factor and I hope it's a good one.

You're wrong there, pal. Last accounts to hand show over £30000 profit.

Weve never paid that much for Ridyard and Beswick surely

No, we paid £30000 for Ridyard, they threw Beswick in as a bonus.
You buy one, you get one free,
I said, you, etc etc.
Charlie knows, Nostradamus doesn't!

I suppose only Faisal can answer that but lets take the clubs he's been associated with.
Wigan. Probably the game's most successful club who will remain successful with or without probiz. He would still remain a 'smallish fish' at Wigan and his personal and business profile wouldn't improve massively.
Cas. A club on its botty with seemingly no way up playing in a ground falling to bits. Probiz would have to pump in millions and have total control of the club to just achieve mediocrity again having little impact on his personal/business portfolio.
So then... a championship club. For a much more modest outlay that significantly reduces fiscal risk to probiz, a club can be brought to prominence, made SL ready that isn't burdened with the level of debt some SL clubs are. If that clubs gets into SL it will be the 'Probiz' factor massively impacting on his business/personal operations.
So I suggest the question should be 'why fev not fax'? And again I suppose only FN or members of the then fax bod could tell us with any degree of accuracy.

His money is futile 'cos the game is doomed at every level, it'll merely support players & staff's rent/mortgage shopping bills for a while.
What he really needs to do, or his ilk, is take hold of the game and shake it by the throat, get rid of RFL hangers-on such as Jon Sharp (or blunt as he's known in those circles, 'cos he apparently doesn't live up to his name) who for some reason is head of the referee's nowadays. That the dirge they send out to offiaciate in some fixtures ( and i don't just mean SL or championship ) that i've watched over the last couple of years is sacriledge, they're ruining the game and all because they're tied into an RFL funded contract. What actually did Richard Lewis bring to our game ? What actual points did he strengthen ? Is the game in better shape than when he took over ?
Attendances are awful throughout the game generally & can't possibly support the outgoings of most clubs, so mr Probiz's money is vital to a club, end of story. They can dress it up how they like ( at any given club BTW ) but without a benefactor such as him, there'd be no "building for the future" to me that just means paying out contract money.......
In Fev's case, they do have a solid infastructure with their player development & are going through a stadium upgrade and those things as far as i'm aware were w.i.p before he tied his camels up on the Big Sam stadium car-park, but who else have this going on ? Only a tiny handful of clubs.
The birth of full time RL / SL in this hemisphere was to bring the playing standard closer to the southern hemisphere standard. By christmas we'll know how successful this 20 year programme has been. That's the official line of clap-trap, in reality it was a desperate attempt to put a competetive edge on Wigan/Maurice Lindsay's dominance and destruction of the game at the top of the domestic scene.

Anyway, Hull for the cup today for my money. That'll jinx 'em !

Gerrem on saaaaaaaaaarrrrrde

Can safely put the riddy rumour to bed. He has told a lot of leigh fans there is no need for him to mobe because he can role out of bed and be at our ground.Also on thursday he pointed to his badge and then kissed it to stop rumours. The lads going knowhere.

Ahh, the old "badge-kiss" gesture LOL

He does right if he can just *role* out of bed & get to the ground. If he rolls outta the other side of his bed will he just reach DW stadium, big brother club & parish godfather-like

proper ambitious then, eh ?

Good luck to Ridyard, any player that can open us up in the last minute of the NRC final & set up the winning score must be a good 'un, I bet Fev wish they had one of those mwuhahahahaha

Kiss the badge!! Brilliant. I've seen it all now. Some fans are so deluded and still think it's 1953 or something. Priceless.

I remember Sam Barlow kissing the badge in a couple of games for us and nobody can question his loyalty.

Wigan the most successful club wouldn't improve his personal and buisness profile????
Well it would do more good than harm that's for sure!!!

Cas. The word is he walked because they wouldn't let him take total control, not that he didn't want to, decaying ground and all!!!

Same at Fax, my info is they did not want him to have total control so soon as his motives were unclear, as soon as they had doubt and he was asked to back his words up and he didn't get his own way he was off.

In truth Fev were his forth attempt to get into the game, but why, what have they got that he is so in love with so as to spend a "modest outlay" on, allready in the hundreds of thousands.
The trend is, he wants total control with his people in the key positions.

Part quote.
"So I suggest the question should be 'why fev not fax'? And again I suppose only FN or members of the then fax bod could tell us with any degree of accuracy."
End quote.

To think only Faisal had a say in the matter is conservative to say the least, it's not a one way street to decision making. Could it be that all the other clubs did not choose him!!

This modest outlay so far spent will not achieve SL status never mind to the heights of challenging the top teams that he is talking about, to do that he will have to spend millions with a guarantee of nothing.

London the club mentioned to be replaced have had one backer with a figure quoted as 17 million invested in them in the press with what you see now as a return.

If you are a Fev supporter the natural thing to do is close ranks and be protective of the club, if you want to simplify it and reason it was a choice between Fev or Fax that's your choice and if your comfortable with what he has and is doing fine but as you know there are Fev fans that are unsure just as I am.

I was not having a dig or comparing anything with anyone, I really hope it is for the good of Rovers and only time will tell.

They didn't hear him whisper " Goodbye Leigh it's been good, BUT", when he kissed it though.

Riddy is STAYING at Leigh , Charlie Knows .

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FC,

I think it just boils down to the fact that FN could not get control within Wigan, Cas or Fax and he would have just been another member of the board. At Fev he has been given a bigger opportunity to have his say. Therefore he has been more willing to "invest" in our club. The way he has done a lot of this is by buying shares which has given him a majority holding in the club. There are dangers in this for us as we have some assets in terms of land (14 acres) however if he was really interested in stripping this why would he not have come to Fev first?

All I think he wants is the kudos of having his company name associated with a successful team and the highest possible level. This is free publicity for Probiz, would you have heard about Probiz without the association to RL? Again there is a danger in here that FN could become bored of this association Fev and possibly leave us in the lurch.

For the moment I’ll take where we are and go with the ride. I have seen many lows during the last 40+ years so I am happy to go with the highs that we have at the moment. To be honest even 2 years ago I thought that there was no way that Fev would be able to get into SL. Although the board at Fev has been working towards meeting the criteria to enter SL (e.g. ground improvements had already started), the introduction of FN has allowed us to accelerate some of this work. Now I actually believe there is a chance that we could make SL, though I maybe just deluded.

Yep some good point made.

With Faisal I think it was Fax who first approached him, before that he had very limited experience or knowledge if any of Rugby league or which clubs were in what league.

I remember when he hird about there being no promotion and relegation he was totaly dumfounded that a sport with leagues and divisions did not have that in place.

Maybe now there is a proposed pathway and he has settles at Rovers what's the point of moving and as you say he can make things happen from the top.

I really do hope Fev get to SL at some point, they deserve it and without that how could they keep the forward momentum that they have been working hard at and building on over the last 4 or 5 years.

If you don't move forward you slow down, eventually stop and then go backwards.

Thanks FC, hope we can get to SL with Fax, Leigh, Batley, et all