i have just got the table of Championship website and removed all of the bps it says

Jeez - with arithmetic like that, Dons could've won it.



Whitehaven won 12, 33 points.



Sheffield won 11, 31 points.

One Sport, one set of rule. Either everyone get 3 for a win 2 for a draw and bonus points or everyong gets 2 for a win and 1 for a draw. How much longer are the RFL going to make this sport a laughing stock by having seperate rules for different teams (this include celtic as well).

Quote Jeez - with arithmetic like that, Dons could've won it. Shocked

Whitehaven won 12, 33 points. Rolling Eyes

Sheffield won 11, 31 points. Laughing'"

id been t the game had a few beers lol i dint even notice

win - 2pts, draw 1 pt, lose Diddlesquit

=blueBarrow - 13 wins, 7 loses = 26
Halifax - 12 wins, 7 loses = 24
fetherstone - 12 wins, 7 loses = 24
whitehaven - 12 wins, 7 loses = 24
widnes - 11 wins, 9 loses = 22
sheffield - 11 wins, 9 loses = 22
toulouse - 9 wins, 10 loses = 18
gateshead - 8 wins, 2 draws, 9 loses = 18
batley - 7 wins, 2 draws, 10 loses =16
leigh - 8 wins, 11 loses = 16
doncaster - 1 win, 18 loses, 9pt deduction = -7

Yer agree but without sounding 'sour' it is all down to your Chairman's cash at the end of the day, good luck to you but it proves money talks.
We aint finished yet, lets see how we go in the Play OIffs after tomorrow.

Yer agree but without sounding 'sour' it is all down to your Chairman's cash at the end of the day, good luck to you but it proves money talks.
We aint finished yet, lets see how we go in the Play OIffs after tomorrow.

If the bonus was such a success, SL would have implemented it this year.

How muchmoney do you think Des put's in ??? Not nearly as much as people think.

We've averaged 2,300 at home this season. At an average of £10 a head that's £23,000 x 12 games = £276,000. Add to that the shared gates (full house v Wigan, QF NR Cup, Semi NR Cup, Final NR Cup, playoffs to come) and gate receipts must top £400,000. Add to that all the bar and refreshment takings, merchandise, sponsorship and prize money and you're looking at £500,000+.

Our Goldrush Lottery brings in approx £300,000 a year (and rising). That makes it £800,000+.

Des does put money in, which just tops-up what he club earns in its' own right. The last time the business results were published, Des put in about £100,000. A lot of money, but a lot less than many chairman in the Championship (and Championship 1 for that matter).

Hardly Roman Abramovic !

Oh and I forgot to mention Craven Park. We own it (and of course we know its hardly Wembley, but WE OWN IT). I think the land was valued at approx £5M.

Des is the driving force, but the club is built on VERY firm foundations.

We are a well run club

You dont say, buys the players, pays the players, picks the players. Much more than a driving force.

I think you are deluding yourself mate, your lottery BRINGS IN £300K and that is all profit?????
Your gates are all pay???????
He puts in £100K?????

Pull the other one, I think you are Des himself you are so full of bullsh*t pal.

A tenner a head on average is very optimistic, imho. Kids, season tickets, VAT will all bring that down. And you may be double counting the sponsors' guests.

And obviously, that's only one side of the coin. We never know exactly what's being paid out in wages.

Are you allowed out unaccompanied

IF.....Barrow had to win last night they would have, so pts difference would be irrelevent

Yes, according to the clubs' recent marketing campaign and press releases. There is a big push on to get it up to the £500K mark.



Of course not, but what has that got to do with it? Adults (the vast majority) - £13/£14, Seniors - £9, Children - £5. The season tickets worked out at £11 a match. I think £10 average is a reasonable assumption.



As I said in my original post, that was the only figure available from the clubs most recent P&L accounts.


Des may well put more in, but my original post was meant to show that the club is financially sound without his cash. Far sounder than most (if not all) clubs in the Championship. Barrow is a club owned by Debenture Holders which are similar to shares, who can attend the AGM and have a say on goings-on at the club.


If we DID 'buy' the league, the vast majority of the money used was generated by Barrow RL. That's the whole point of a professional club isn't it ??


But, never mind the facts. The fantasy is far more appealing isn't it

Barrow and Des have just tried buying anybody and have got lucky as Fax fecked it up. But Barrow are light years of Sl because the ground is a hellhole-that requires likely around 10-15 Million to get it up so SL Standard. They are so far off Widnes in terms of Backroom setup and academy set up is laughable. And Barrow have a complete Loon as a chairman who when you compare him to Steve O´Conner is a joke on how he runs his club and how he does things. The other problem for Barrow is that the town has no other big towns next to it say like Widnes has with Liverpool and the Wirral. What makes me laugh is the arrogance of the Barrow fans who think Barrow should be in SL and ignore how far off Barrow really are. Even Fax with no money man behind them are better run and have a Stadium that will be fit for SL by the end of the year let alone 2012. I really hope Barrow fail to make the GF due to the arrogance and bigheadedness of the Fans and the Club. I respect Widnes for example alot more-quietly do the business and properly building for SL. A couple of fans are full of crap but generally are OK and respectful of others

hes put 300k in over that last 3years said so him self a few months ago when trying to boost the lottery, i would say looking at squads more than half of that will have come in this season

catic
rooney
luisi
brockey
bell
4 from oldham

he has said he cant continue to put in that amount of money,and i cant see him waiting until 2015 for SL (as they have no chance for 2012) the rfl have said just as much

so if they get the GF tick in the box this season, i think he will reduce the money he is putting and try to bully his way into SL 2012

if they dont and it seems likley there is little chance of SL in 2012 then he may just take his ball home

regardless of what SCR and his other sickafants says ,his attitude (which is well known in cumbrian) is his main stumbling block the rfl will not want some neike him incharge of SL

What an absolute crock of cr@p. Barrow would still have lost.

Look.

I have no issue with Barrow topping the league, as i have said in other posts we threw that away ourselves and can blame no other team for that.

BUT

The bonus point is a waste of time, encourages negative play and rewards failure.

Its had its time. Its time to get rid of it.

The bonus point is negative because it offers nothing for a team to be more ruthless in defence or attack when leading by a big margin.

There is so much you could do to make it better if they were going to keep it. Such as points for so many tries or if they keep the losing by a certain margin, why not winning by a certain margin too. This also makes for great rugby.

However it would be better if they went to 3 for a win and 1 for a draw and if you lose, tough! That or 2 for a win and 1 for a draw. Getting something for taking part is for kids growing up so that they are sporting. It's not for professional sports! IF you lose, you should get nothing.

How is a win worth three draws ?

The 300K over 3 years = £100K a year, so that backs up what I said. Like I said, it's hardly Billionaire's money is it.

I wondered how long it would be before one of our green-eyed friends from up the coast would comment.

Rooney has a % of his salary paid by Wakey (and he's only played 7 games for us)
Bell was on a week ot week contract and left in April
The 4 Oldham players are only on 2/3rds of what they were on at Oldham and will probably only play 7-8 games max for the club.

Keep on deluding yourselves. This year is only the start.

I find it amusing that a Fax fan commented on Barrow's stadium when they 'borrow' a stadium every 2 weeks.

Let's face it, Fax like Fev have no chance of getting into SL unless the RFL kick a couple of Yorkshire teams out of the SL. I just can't see that happening.

so hes put the same in champioship as he did in CH1 doubt it very much

Why are Barrow fans so full of themselves and also full of crap?


Yeah of course 4 players are going to go to Barrow on a wage 33% less than what they was getting. Why? brown envelope behind the scenes?


Yeah like most clubs have a chairman who will give over 100,000 a year for 3 years. Rugby is not soccer and why its very rare to find somebody willing to throw that amount of money away (Which it is unless its for Tax purposes)

??? Many teams in SL like Wigan, Hull FC, Huddersfield, Quins, Celtic do this and usually save money long term doing it. If it was so cheap to do why do so many clubs share grounds or pay the local council to use it? CP maybe Barrows ground but it requires something around 10 million to get it to SL Standards. I doubt Des the Donkey will pay that much. And IF Des left Barrow will go backwards quick as he has built everything on sand. No upgrade of stadium or anything the club can earn much money from

Make up what you like.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good smear campaign.

He's got a point though, why would the Oldham players sign for Barrow and travel all that way for less money?

No it doesnt - you said 300k per year.

Oh and we have much more chance than you of being in SL no matter how small that chance is.

Now go run along and ask Des for a pound for the fruit machine!