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| I remember it well, bonger, and 2,202 in attendance I recall. It's quite obvious the cost to get in influences if one attends or not, and anyone with any sense should know that. Taking an extreme, the Giants allowed free admission to their game against Catalans a few seasons ago which attracted over 9k. When Fax had the "bring a friend for a tenner" a couple of seasons back I tempted a mate who wouldn't have attended at full price. And on the flip side, I remember Nigel Wood increasing the charge for the visit of the Bulls at Thrum Hall which angered fans to the extend the attendance was some 3k down from what would otherwise been expected. So the proof is in the pudding as they say 
On the subject of attendances in general, there were some pretty naff ones last weekend. Sheffield just 1.2k for the visit of last seasons GF winners? Hmmmmm ... it's no surprise womens soccer has now overtaken mens RL re crowd sizes. How embarrassing! 
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| [quote="Tony Fax":2zae0xb2] the Giants allowed free admission to their game against Catalans a few seasons ago which attracted over 9k. [/quote:2zae0xb2]
Many years ago they did free admission vs Cas, got about 10k but a lot were from Cas.
Not sure about vs Catalans, may have happened, but 9k turning up when it's free, when the football regularly get twice that shows the difference in support for the clubs and possibly the game
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| Please someone tell me the booking fee, thereby almost wiping out the discount, for buying an advance ticket for Sunday is a mistake. For the love of god, tell me it's an admin error about to be rectified! 
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| Booking fee is about £1.5 , I dont know what people's circumstances are but I wouldn't be getting stressed about it .
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| I never buy advance,personally want the club to get the max..but woman at work said the fee was £1.86 on a £2 saving..hardly the worlds most enticing offer..
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| [quote="Listenup94":jy5a0lni]Booking fee is about £1.5 , I dont know what people's circumstances are but I wouldn't be getting stressed about it .[/quote:jy5a0lni]
Not stressed at all, listenup, I just think that the discount on an advance ticket being almost cancelled out by a booking fee is so stupid it beggars belief. May also lose some fans who will now wait to pay on the day but then decide ..... on the day ..... to do something else when normally they would have committed to the ticket. Just saying.
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| Its a strange one because they are not really advertised as discounted tickets and you have to presume that Fax do have to cover some of the costs for the system which almost makes selling advanced tickets totally pointless for Fax. I guess the only real benefit is that the money is in the bank the next day rather than having to wait until Sunday.
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| Well , there's a fans forum on Thursday with all welcome including an open q and a , perhaps that would be a perfect opportunity to air any grievances regarding ticketing prices etc . I'm sure the future of the ground ownership, hmrc problems , being in special measures and injuries to an already limited squad may take a back seat to the much more pressing matter of a £1.5 admin fee .
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| [quote="Listenup94":4ud78lst]Booking fee is about £1.5 , I dont know what people's circumstances are but I wouldn't be getting stressed about it .[/quote:4ud78lst]
I personally can easily afford the price of the booking fee but there is not a cat in hells chance that i would pay it!
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| [quote="Hudd-Shay":1fyq9e81]I personally can easily afford the price of the booking fee but there is not a cat in hells chance that i would pay it![/quote:1fyq9e81]
Each to their own , I have and will.
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| [quote="Listenup94":32nko906]Each to their own , I have and will.[/quote:32nko906]
And each to their moan, they have and will. Again and again…………….. 
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| [quote="faxcar":3f4usq31]And each to their moan, they have and will. Again and again……………..  [/quote:3f4usq31]
Just think theres bigger things to worry about , it's a bit like being in the twin towers at 8am complaining about the price of ink cartridges.
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| [quote="Listenup94":1efg8ex1]Just think theres bigger things to worry about , it's a bit like being in the twin towers at 8am complaining about the price of ink cartridges.[/quote:1efg8ex1]
A bit of a daft analogy there, listenup, but hey I hope you enjoy the fans forum with the usual 60 somethings (which in itself tells a story). If the very concerning issue of falling attendances comes up (just 800 against a SL team) primarily because of ticketing prices (7% increase on top of last years 17%), you can always shout from the back of the room "Well it could be worse, we could have been stuck in the twin towers on 9/11" I'm sure that will raise a laugh or 2 
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| All match day packages not sold once again. We have had volunteers doing a better job than this over the past decade or so.
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|  These days a lot of things aren’t being taken up or sold out, not just match day rugby packages, from the beginning to end of the chain no matter what it is EVERYTHING is costing a lot more and too much for a lot of people millions of whom are caught up in it all with no say or influence on matters.
This is a global event not just at Halifax Rugby club with the main reasons cited as being COVID and the war in Ukraine.
Despite how a few people on here would try and portray things it’s not the rugby clubs fault COVID came along, Russia invaded Ukraine with the inevitable knock on consequences.
Talking about the past and comparing things to how they were prior to 2019 fails to see what’s happened since then.
The only thing that’s stayed the same is those doing the moaning.
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| The booking fee irks me, because until mid to late last season we didn't have one. And advance tickets were advertised as cheaper than on the day. (Season tickets I think are also shown vs match day prices). So cancelling out most of the discount with a booking fee, applied to each ticket isn't great. Isn't the ticketing company a sponsor of sorts? Yet we're paying them!
In all honesty, I generally pay cash on the gate (because unlike a lot of clubs we still haven't got a pay by card facility unless you go to the ticket office, Even Barrow and Whitehaven manage this btw) But by buying in advance, I'm committed to going, as Tony Fax says, some people may do other things on the day, due to weather or just how they feel. And that happens to me.
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[quote="Tony Fax":3f85y4lq]A bit of a daft analogy there, listenup, but hey I hope you enjoy the fans forum with the usual 60 somethings (which in itself tells a story). If the very concerning issue of falling attendances comes up (just 800 against a SL team) primarily because of ticketing prices (7% increase on top of last years 17%), you can always shout from the back of the room "Well it could be worse, we could have been stuck in the twin towers on 9/11" I'm sure that will raise a laugh or 2  [/quote:3f85y4lq]
https://www.ladbible.com/community/911- ... 0-20250218
You weren't there complaining about the price of fridge magnets by any chance Tony ,lol.
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[quote="Tony Fax":3f85y4lq]A bit of a daft analogy there, listenup, but hey I hope you enjoy the fans forum with the usual 60 somethings (which in itself tells a story). If the very concerning issue of falling attendances comes up (just 800 against a SL team) primarily because of ticketing prices (7% increase on top of last years 17%), you can always shout from the back of the room "Well it could be worse, we could have been stuck in the twin towers on 9/11" I'm sure that will raise a laugh or 2  [/quote:3f85y4lq]
https://www.ladbible.com/community/911- ... 0-20250218
You weren't there complaining about the price of fridge magnets by any chance Tony ,lol.
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| [quote="faxcar":28axym8j]:roll: These days a lot of things aren’t being taken up or sold out, not just match day rugby packages, from the beginning to end of the chain no matter what it is EVERYTHING is costing a lot more and too much for a lot of people millions of whom are caught up in it all with no say or influence on matters.
This is a global event not just at Halifax Rugby club with the main reasons cited as being COVID and the war in Ukraine.
Despite how a few people on here would try and portray things it’s not the rugby clubs fault COVID came along, Russia invaded Ukraine with the inevitable knock on consequences.
Talking about the past and comparing things to how they were prior to 2019 fails to see what’s happened since then.
The only thing that’s stayed the same is those doing the moaning.[/quote:28axym8j]
Did you just blame Covid and the war in Ukraine for whoever is running the commercial side of Fax not been able to sell out match packages? That has to be one of the strangest takes Ive heard in a while.
Couldn't Fax do what previous people selling packages have done like phoning, emailing, visiting previous sponsors and trying to get them interested again? I know this hasn't happened, or if it has its on a really small scale, because none of my group of friends have been contacted in any way. Maybe its too much effort to spend a little time trying to bring thousands of pounds in to the club? Lets not just accept medicoracy.
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| [quote="Greg Florimos Boots":2gxyku32]
Couldn't Fax do what previous people selling packages have done like phoning, emailing, visiting previous sponsors and trying to get them interested again? [/quote:2gxyku32]
You can only ask the same people so many times, I'll speak to one of my mates today and see if he's been asked, although think last time he sponsored the matchball they came to him on the Friday!
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| [quote="Brew":1cceiyjk]some people may do other things on the day, due to weather or just how they feel. And that happens to me.[/quote:1cceiyjk]
Exactly, Brew! My rugby buddy is really licking off about the booking fee (do other clubs charge it?) and is refusing to pay it, so there's another lost ticket sale. And with my own reluctance to pay over £20, we've decided to go to the pub on Sunday, look at the line up at 2 o'clock and if Hurrell is included might pop along to watch. But most likely another 2 empty spaces in the South Stand due to the club's bad management.
I also agree about the lack of card paying facilities on the day. Quite ridiculous! Not only are less and less folk carrying cash, but it's also less painful tapping your card than handing over a 20 quid note (plus 2 pound coins  )
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| And this is it, I'll decide on the day, but if I decide sunday morning to go to the pub, I'm going over to Wakefield, so then rugby isn't happening.
That said, I've not checked if I can get a cheap ticket yet. That may swing things
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| [quote="Brew":1mdraj15]You can only ask the same people so many times, I'll speak to one of my mates today and see if he's been asked, although think last time he sponsored the matchball they came to him on the Friday![/quote:1mdraj15]
Yeah most of the time it will be the same answer but they should have a large database of previous sponsors and it should be the first port of call for the club. I know people who didnt even get the courtesy of been asked if they wanted to continue with their sponsorship from the previous season. We have gone from having a commercial side that was the envy of every single club in the Championship to selling match packages in the week leading up to a game. Im sure we will hear some excuses as to why this is the case shortly.
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| [quote="Brew":26kzpa9k]And this is it, I'll decide on the day, but if I decide sunday morning to go to the pub, I'm going over to Wakefield, so then rugby isn't happening.
That said, I've not checked if I can get a cheap ticket yet. That may swing things[/quote:26kzpa9k]
You’re not d about supporting the club you just want a cheap ticket. Happy to go to the pub and spend £20 £30 on beer then come on here and slag the club off for not doing enough to get people through the gates.
It cost a lot of money to run the club and it’s the supports who help with that by attending matches.
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| [quote="Faxlore":30l3hw1f]You’re not d about supporting the club you just want a cheap ticket. Happy to go to the pub and spend £20 £30 on beer then come on here and slag the club of for not doing enough to get people through the gates.
It cost a lot of money to run the club and it’s the supports who help with that by attending matches.[/quote:30l3hw1f]
I look at the value for money of my day out, I probably got half my tickets last year through a community club, as do most of the people stood around me. I'd possibly spend £20 or £30 on Beer whether I went to the game or not. It's my money, I earn it and will spend it as I wish.
I was at the Thatto Heath game, one of about 700 who bothered, and I went to Sheffield, I missed the Catalan game because I was on holiday although also had a football match that afternoon so would likely have gone there.
I don't disagree that it costs a lot of money to run the club, so you'd think the commercial side of things would be better. Rather than trying to sell the match sponsorship in the week leading up to the game. I think we all know disgruntled former sponsors who either haven't been asked to renew, or have seen the packages they've had previously sold to others sometimes for less money.
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| [quote="Greg Florimos Boots":fhovcm2o]Did you just blame Covid and the war in Ukraine for whoever is running the commercial side of Fax not been able to sell out match packages? That has to be one of the strangest takes Ive heard in a while.
Couldn't Fax do what previous people selling packages have done like phoning, emailing, visiting previous sponsors and trying to get them interested again? I know this hasn't happened, or if it has its on a really small scale, because none of my group of friends have been contacted in any way. Maybe its too much effort to spend a little time trying to bring thousands of pounds in to the club? Lets not just accept medicoracy.[/quote:fhovcm2o]
No i didn't even use the word BLAME and obviously I wasn't just talking about match day packages,I pointed out that there's a bigger picture and bigger reasons why everything has gone up and why everything is not selling out and a couple of the major reason why it had that aren't connected with or only affecting Fax's commercial department and fan base.
Not everything is someones fault although I accept that some think it is and find it strange to think in any other way.
Everything will have someone who complains about it, it's just that a few will complain about everything.
I'm sure we'll here some excuses for the reasons for their sad personalities shortly. 
Since when did you become the judge of what is mediocre and what isn't and are you perfect?
On match day packages the club are offering them privately and through social media as an open invitation to anyone interested.
Almost everyone with any interest in the club use these platforms, don't you and your mates and all know about them about them but how many have taken them up?
You recently knocked the club for mentioning the minimum number of supporters required to break even, as if this was wrong when every club past and present is acutely aware of the importance of attendances.
Now to claim that Fax aren't trying to get people to come to games has to be one of the strangest things I've heard ever to be honest.
As with everything else to be able to sell it people would want to buy it and it's obvious that some are now choosing not to, and some, without knowing the reasons are choosing to BLAME the club when someone does so.
On admission options there are currently season tickets, early in the week tickets with a small saving, cash on the day or card at the ticket office and as above some will choose one of them or none of them.
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