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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Sport can be really, really harsh but unfortunatley there is no room for sentiment and money will be even tighter next season, if we are going to improve the term then these tough decisions have to be made.'"
Absolutely and although we haven’t seen much of Brad this year if we can improve upon him when he was at his best then that will mean we will have a quality addition incoming to add the squad.
On another subject Chris (i’m In love with myself) Kendal in the middle for this one.
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| I will give a lot of credit to brad for coming back from that type of injury in that space of time but as for next season signing wise it will be quality over quantity. Simon as to be ruthless in this department if we are to keep progressing as a club. I would expect but could be wrong that garside-morris-oakley and worthington will join barber in leaving the club personally i would like to keep aston and hopefully gee and gwaze will also sign up for next season and fairbank too. I would like us to sign another to partner tibbs and also to replace worthington if he leaves because arundel as still to convince me he is the answer plus mCcomb is more of a winger for me. I would also like better competition for woody at fullback even though louis does a good job there. And finally a few hardcore forwards just to put the icing on the cake.
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| Regarding Brad Knowles it can't be overstated how well the lad has done to recover from that horrific injury. I saw the incident at Batley and I wouldn't like to see owt like that again. Should he be given another contract at Fax? The answer to that is only if he would improve our squad for next season, no other reason and I don't know if he would as i've hardly ever seen him play. Up The Fax! The Grove, shuddersfield. Oakham Citra 4.2% Mmm!
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| I enjoyed this afternoon. We were not out played by Fev and it should give them something to think about it we beat York. Should have been draw at least with Fev’s conversion missing but being given. Keeping them nilled was a major aspect of our game well done the lads. I felt Keyes had a bad kicking game from hand but Gwaza had great game and should have been given MOM.
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| Yeah thought it was a good game between two pretty even sides. We started well before Fev hit their purple patch and still managed to claw our way in to the game. It did highlight the worry that Fev could blow us off the park if they get on a roll and we conceded some very soft tries but it also showed that if we are still close to them after 60 minutes they will run out of steam and we can have a great chance of beating them.
I want to see Fev's 4th try again, obviously the conversion missed but the try itself looked like obstruction to start with and then double movement but you never know after just one view. I think the ref performance was a bit sketchy and really didn't favor either team but did contribute to a bit of a stop start game with seemingly random stuff punished and then later ignored. I think there is a chance that Fev could have an issue with possible bans on a couple of late hits especially the one on JWH that lead to the McComb try but again its pretty random what gets reported and what doesn't so we will wait and see.
I saw nothing yesterday that suggested we are not capable of beating them at theirs but we have York first up and after that big win they will be up for it. Id rather go in to the game next week after a tough match over putting 70 points on someone.
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| As for yesterdays game i thought it showed where both sides strengths are fev are a big side across the park. moors was a real handful in that first half and both there wingers carried the ball back strong and took some pulling down it would of helped if keyes didn't keep kicking down briscoe throat. And to be fair to fev there forwards showed some good ball movement and interplay which caused us problems. And for us we moved the ball about to try and tire out there forwards something that you don't get the benefits of straight away but you could see in the last 20 that most of there players where not carrying the ball with the same impact as they where earlier in the game and they also started to fall off some tackles you would expect them to make and i thought we looked at that point the fitter side. overall i think a draw would of been a fair result and if we meet again in a couple of weeks i think they will try to blow us off the park in the first half but if we can hang on in there and take the game to the wire we have a good chance of winning . As for york in the playoffs with all due respect to them i would be very disappointed if we did not beat them i would expect a tough game but i think we have to much fire power for them and that will tell over the 80 minutes.
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| Considering the "dead rubber" nature of the game it was a full on encounter that lacked nothing in intensity and commitment.
I hadn't seen much of Fev lately and it was a reminder of their size in the pack which in the early exchanges they used that to their advantage and there was no surprise that they got some good ball and points of the back of it, outside of that Luke Briscoe was outstanding for them and Lineham not far behind with likewise Salty for us.
Where I thought we looked stronger was on the inter change with Gwaze having some impact the longer the game went on, Lockwood and Cuthbertson have been top players for a long time but I think the years are catching up and it will be interesting to see if they are in the playoff 17.
As Grix has been saying, against the top 2 if we can stay in the game and with Tangata, Barber and Walmsley to come in and add to the energy and running game which was a bit off yesterday this will be is our best chance against them if we can get passed York.
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Condescending. Basically he's saying his team weren't at their best but they have come through it and still won. Its all mind games and if we beat York we will see what pans out in the game that really matters. Up The Fax!
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Condescending. Basically he's saying his team weren't at their best but they have come through it and still won. Its all mind games and if we beat York we will see what pans out in the game that really matters. Up The Fax!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Condescending. Basically he's saying his team weren't at their best but they have come through it and still won. Its all mind games and if we beat York we will see what pans out in the game that really matters. Up The Fax!
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Dear me, you'd have to be a really sensitive soul to be upset at anything he said there. He's very complimentary about Fax, but he's not allowed to say that we weren't at our best (which most Rovers fans would agree with) in an interview for RoversTV just in case some sensitive Halifax fan is listening in and decides to take offence?
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Dear me, you'd have to be a really sensitive soul to be upset at anything he said there. He's very complimentary about Fax, but he's not allowed to say that we weren't at our best (which most Rovers fans would agree with) in an interview for RoversTV just in case some sensitive Halifax fan is listening in and decides to take offence?'"
No offence taken by me. As I said, it's all mind games. P.S. Don't forget what he said whilst he was at Toronto.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Dear me, you'd have to be a really sensitive soul to be upset at anything he said there. He's very complimentary about Fax, but he's not allowed to say that we weren't at our best (which most Rovers fans would agree with) in an interview for RoversTV just in case some sensitive Halifax fan is listening in and decides to take offence?'"
As a fax fan I read it as , he couldn’t work out if fev looked slow n tired because of fax or because they underperformed and he would look at it again but certainly gave credit to Grix and how well drilled we were , macdermott is indeed a marmite character but I think in this instance from a fev point of view he’s spot on .
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| Fev have not been great the back end of the season so maybe this is the best they will get at this point. Brian Mc must be a little worried as to why Fev looked so tired and he mentions that a couple of times. makes for an intriguing next game if we manage to get past York.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"No offence taken by me. As I said, it's all mind games. P.S. Don't forget what he said whilst he was at Toronto.
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It's not mind games at all. It was an interview for the RoversTV subscription website which the Fev Twitter account happened to re-broadcast to non-subscribers.
And when Grix said in his interview that Fev scored "a couple of crashovers...what looked like quite soft tries to be honest...they got a few tries that, if it weren't for our indiscipline, our inability to get onside..." and made his comment about Fev having played their best team on Sunday...was that mind games too? Or was it, like most coaches, just concentrating on his own team?
PS yes I remember what he said at Toronto. I can remember more recently when this forum was united in wanting Grix sacked. Both ancient history now, I'd suggest.
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| I never wanted Grix sacked
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| To say this forum was united in wanting Grix sacked is, i would suggest, grasping at cloud cuckoo land. I myself had misgivings about his appointment but they have well and truly disappeared.
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Quote ="Hudd-Shay"To say this forum was united in wanting Grix sacked is, i would suggest, grasping at cloud cuckoo land. I myself had misgivings about his appointment but they have well and truly disappeared.'"
Perhaps united in wanting him sacked was the wrong phrase. Check out these threads and there certainly wasn't much optimism about him, some wanted him gone, others said it would cost too much to sack him
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You were first to reply to the 2nd thread (entitled Simon Grix Is Out Of His Depth) with "Season over already. #faxdoingcheapoptiononceagainffs!". Not your most ringing endorsement, was it? The first thread, which was over a year later, sees you glumly referring to Grix as "the cheap option". Like I said, presumably ancient history now, like McDermott's comments in Toronto?
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Quote ="Hudd-Shay"To say this forum was united in wanting Grix sacked is, i would suggest, grasping at cloud cuckoo land. I myself had misgivings about his appointment but they have well and truly disappeared.'"
Perhaps united in wanting him sacked was the wrong phrase. Check out these threads and there certainly wasn't much optimism about him, some wanted him gone, others said it would cost too much to sack him
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You were first to reply to the 2nd thread (entitled Simon Grix Is Out Of His Depth) with "Season over already. #faxdoingcheapoptiononceagainffs!". Not your most ringing endorsement, was it? The first thread, which was over a year later, sees you glumly referring to Grix as "the cheap option". Like I said, presumably ancient history now, like McDermott's comments in Toronto?
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| Quote ="Faxlore"I never wanted Grix sacked'"
Fair enough, poor choice of words on my part.
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| I thought Brian Mac interview was fine. Considering how he can be. He gave credit to Fax and highlighted some points about his team and wasn’t sure why they were that way during the game. If we beat York leats hope Fev are even more tiered even knacked when we play them in the semi final
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| When playing a a big pack like fev the game plan is to be in the contest when you hit the 12 th round , the reason why I believe Grix has recruited and trained fit fast forwards so they can outlast them , one thing we haven’t yet nailed is the discipline so unfortunately sometimes we’ve had to defend too many sets early on so we’re not as full as energy as we should be in the closing stages .
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Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Perhaps united in wanting him sacked was the wrong phrase. Check out these threads and there certainly wasn't much optimism about him, some wanted him gone, others said it would cost too much to sack him
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You were first to reply to the 2nd thread (entitled Simon Grix Is Out Of His Depth) with "Season over already. #faxdoingcheapoptiononceagainffs!". Not your most ringing endorsement, was it? The first thread, which was over a year later, sees you glumly referring to Grix as "the cheap option". Like I said, presumably ancient history now, like McDermott's comments in Toronto?'"
Hello phantom for me i have no problem with what brian mac said in his post match interview he is first and foremost your teams coach and is thoughts will be about fev and how they can improve for what's to come in the playoffs. As for the calling for simon to be sacked or not given the job in the first place i am happy to hold my hands up to that but at the same time i stand by what i said at that time. I was not happy with a number of issues surrounding simons appointment at that time and our performances for quite a while when he took over were for me by and large poor but i will give him and scott the credit they deserve for the team playing like they have done for most of this season and as for those issues that i had like you say that is in the past now and i think fax as a team are now at the the level of performance most of our fans will be happy with.
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You were first to reply to the 2nd thread (entitled Simon Grix Is Out Of His Depth) with "Season over already. #faxdoingcheapoptiononceagainffs!". Not your most ringing endorsement, was it? The first thread, which was over a year later, sees you glumly referring to Grix as "the cheap option". Like I said, presumably ancient history now, like McDermott's comments in Toronto?'"
Hello phantom for me i have no problem with what brian mac said in his post match interview he is first and foremost your teams coach and is thoughts will be about fev and how they can improve for what's to come in the playoffs. As for the calling for simon to be sacked or not given the job in the first place i am happy to hold my hands up to that but at the same time i stand by what i said at that time. I was not happy with a number of issues surrounding simons appointment at that time and our performances for quite a while when he took over were for me by and large poor but i will give him and scott the credit they deserve for the team playing like they have done for most of this season and as for those issues that i had like you say that is in the past now and i think fax as a team are now at the the level of performance most of our fans will be happy with.
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Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Perhaps united in wanting him sacked was the wrong phrase. Check out these threads and there certainly wasn't much optimism about him, some wanted him gone, others said it would cost too much to sack him
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You were first to reply to the 2nd thread (entitled Simon Grix Is Out Of His Depth) with "Season over already. #faxdoingcheapoptiononceagainffs!". Not your most ringing endorsement, was it? The first thread, which was over a year later, sees you glumly referring to Grix as "the cheap option". Like I said, presumably ancient history now, like McDermott's comments in Toronto?'"
As I've said on here I personally wasn't sure about SG as our coach, that was my opinion which I have changed. That's a hell of a lot different to this forum being 'united in wanting Grix sacked'.
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Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Perhaps united in wanting him sacked was the wrong phrase. Check out these threads and there certainly wasn't much optimism about him, some wanted him gone, others said it would cost too much to sack him
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viewtopic.php?f=15&t=627940
You were first to reply to the 2nd thread (entitled Simon Grix Is Out Of His Depth) with "Season over already. #faxdoingcheapoptiononceagainffs!". Not your most ringing endorsement, was it? The first thread, which was over a year later, sees you glumly referring to Grix as "the cheap option". Like I said, presumably ancient history now, like McDermott's comments in Toronto?'"
As I've said on here I personally wasn't sure about SG as our coach, that was my opinion which I have changed. That's a hell of a lot different to this forum being 'united in wanting Grix sacked'.
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| On tiredness, although there was plenty of effort from Fax but on Sunday when compared to the intensity we have been at in some of our previous outings there was some fatigue showing in us as well.
Understandable considering they only had a good 5 days to recover from the big defensive effort put in at Widnes.
To follow that up having to face the Fev monster forwards so soon after is a big ask and with Arundel going off for Gee early in the game obviously adversely affected the energy level of the pack in the interchange for much off the game.
On sacking the coach, when appointed i think many realised Simon had no previous experience so were rightly concerned but also acknowledged he needed time to get his own team in and then be measured on that.
Interestingly on sacking has there been any Fev fans thinking the same about BM Phantom?
PS: I saw and heard nothing in his interview that wasn't a fair open assessment from BM so soon after the game.
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| Quote ="faxcar"
Interestingly on sacking has there been any Fev fans thinking the same about BM Phantom?'"
Yes, there have been plenty on social media, if that's what you mean. As perhaps was the case with Grix (and I should have noted this), maybe it's a case of a relatively small number of vociferous fans repeatedly moaning about him, I'm not sure.
Can't speak for other Fev fans but personally I take the view that as he was hired specifically becasue of his play-off record, there wasn't much point in demanding his removal before the season is over, especially as it's been obvious all year that we would make the play-offs.
As it stands we have a tricky semi final, probably against Fax, and then if we were to win that we'd likely have to leave our previous form this season a long way behind to stand a chance against Leigh. Presumably BM's future will be decided once the season is done.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Yes, there have been plenty on social media, if that's what you mean. As perhaps was the case with Grix (and I should have noted this), maybe it's a case of a relatively small number of vociferous fans repeatedly moaning about him, I'm not sure.
Can't speak for other Fev fans but personally I take the view that as he was hired specifically becasue of his play-off record, there wasn't much point in demanding his removal before the season is over, especially as it's been obvious all year that we would make the play-offs.
As it stands we have a tricky semi final, probably against Fax, and then if we were to win that we'd likely have to leave our previous form this season a long way behind to stand a chance against Leigh. Presumably BM's future will be decided once the season is done.'"
I don't follow social media too closely mainly because it tends to soon become very unsocial over the slightest thing. so genuinely didn't know.
What you say makes perfect sense and who could have foreseen that Leigh would do what they have to the extant that they have, anything more towards previous performance levels in the comp as good as they have been from the former promoted sides and Fev could have easily been the favourites.
York for us will be a stiff test, previous results have been good but in a one off game apart from a confidence boost will mean little on the day.
I think Fax won't change anything and will stick to the same game plan whereas York will be working on something new to turn it around so any surprises are likely to becoming from them in this one, hopefully we will have enough whatever the case.
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