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| me and my mates is going on holiday to spain 30th june
one is still waiting for his passport though... applied about 3 weeks ago for one..
i know it has been in the news about the backlog..
what can he do?? just sit and wait or can he go to liverpool to collect??
pay extra for a fast track? or would this be no use
any help/info appreciated!
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| If its his first adult passport it cannot be fast tracked.
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I'd ignore all the media "horror" stories and get advice directly from the www.gov.uk site, such as:
Upgrades for urgent travel
People in the UK who have an urgent need to travel will be able to upgrade their application without charge. This means that after their application has been through the proper checks, the processing, printing and delivery of their new passport will be fast-tracked for free. To qualify, customers must be booked to travel within the next 7 days and their application must have been with the Passport Office for longer than the standard processing time of three weeks through no fault of their own.
Customers will be asked to provide details – such as flight numbers and travel company – to confirm their travel plans. The ‘urgent need to travel’ upgrade is open to all those who have applied by post from within the UK and who meet the criteria above. Unless there are valid compassionate grounds, this will not apply to adults applying for their first passport, as they still need to attend an interview to confirm their identity. The upgrade is available immediately and can be requested through the Passport Adviceline. It is a temporary change and is not retrospective.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/addi ... ort-demand
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I'd ignore all the media "horror" stories and get advice directly from the www.gov.uk site, such as:
Upgrades for urgent travel
People in the UK who have an urgent need to travel will be able to upgrade their application without charge. This means that after their application has been through the proper checks, the processing, printing and delivery of their new passport will be fast-tracked for free. To qualify, customers must be booked to travel within the next 7 days and their application must have been with the Passport Office for longer than the standard processing time of three weeks through no fault of their own.
Customers will be asked to provide details – such as flight numbers and travel company – to confirm their travel plans. The ‘urgent need to travel’ upgrade is open to all those who have applied by post from within the UK and who meet the criteria above. Unless there are valid compassionate grounds, this will not apply to adults applying for their first passport, as they still need to attend an interview to confirm their identity. The upgrade is available immediately and can be requested through the Passport Adviceline. It is a temporary change and is not retrospective.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/addi ... ort-demand
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| Quote ="guess who"If its his first adult passport it cannot be fast tracked.'"
no it was just a renew
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Quote ="shinymcshine"I'd ignore all the media "horror" stories and get advice directly from the www.gov.uk site, such as:
Upgrades for urgent travel
People in the UK who have an urgent need to travel will be able to upgrade their application without charge. This means that after their application has been through the proper checks, the processing, printing and delivery of their new passport will be fast-tracked for free. To qualify, customers must be booked to travel within the next 7 days and their application must have been with the Passport Office for longer than the standard processing time of three weeks through no fault of their own.
Customers will be asked to provide details – such as flight numbers and travel company – to confirm their travel plans. The ‘urgent need to travel’ upgrade is open to all those who have applied by post from within the UK and who meet the criteria above. Unless there are valid compassionate grounds, this will not apply to adults applying for their first passport, as they still need to attend an interview to confirm their identity. The upgrade is available immediately and can be requested through the Passport Adviceline. It is a temporary change and is not retrospective.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/addi ... ort-demand'"
thanks for this!
will give him this advice, seems to meet the criteria
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Quote ="shinymcshine"I'd ignore all the media "horror" stories and get advice directly from the www.gov.uk site, such as:
Upgrades for urgent travel
People in the UK who have an urgent need to travel will be able to upgrade their application without charge. This means that after their application has been through the proper checks, the processing, printing and delivery of their new passport will be fast-tracked for free. To qualify, customers must be booked to travel within the next 7 days and their application must have been with the Passport Office for longer than the standard processing time of three weeks through no fault of their own.
Customers will be asked to provide details – such as flight numbers and travel company – to confirm their travel plans. The ‘urgent need to travel’ upgrade is open to all those who have applied by post from within the UK and who meet the criteria above. Unless there are valid compassionate grounds, this will not apply to adults applying for their first passport, as they still need to attend an interview to confirm their identity. The upgrade is available immediately and can be requested through the Passport Adviceline. It is a temporary change and is not retrospective.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/addi ... ort-demand'"
thanks for this!
will give him this advice, seems to meet the criteria
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| From what I can gather they've made a good job of dealing with the list.
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| why would anyone not renew their passport a good 6 months before it expires?
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| Quote ="Standee"why would anyone not renew their passport a good 6 months before it expires?'"
Could it be that they couldn't afford to or that they didn't realise until they booked the holiday that it needed renewing?
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Could it be that they couldn't afford to or that they didn't realise until they booked the holiday that it needed renewing?'"
OK, who in their right mind books a holiday without knowing they have a valid passport?
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| Quote ="Standee"OK, who in their right mind books a holiday without knowing they have a valid passport?'"
Liam Watts?
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| Quote ="Standee"why would anyone not renew their passport a good 6 months before it expires?'"
told my mate the same thing!
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| struggling with this government number they have give out to contact them to book an appointment
just rings and diverts to answer machine!!!! all day long, no return call when leaving details...
how can we book an appointment when no one gets in touch
hopefully there is another way to book one...online or email maybe
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| Quote ="Standee"OK, who in their right mind books a holiday without knowing they have a valid passport?'"
The problem isn't helped by travel companies giving out false information about what a valid passport actually is.
Jet2 were insistent that I needed 6 months left on my passport from the date I was due to return from Tenerife, which is nonsense. I can remain in Tenerife until the day my passport expires if I so wish.
It wouldn't surprise me if a massive number of passports in this backlog are renewals that would be perfectly valid for whatever trip they are being used for.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"The problem isn't helped by travel companies giving out false information about what a valid passport actually is.
Jet2 were insistent that I needed 6 months left on my passport from the date I was due to return from Tenerife, which is nonsense. I can remain in Tenerife until the day my passport expires if I so wish.
It wouldn't surprise me if a massive number of passports in this backlog are renewals that would be perfectly valid for whatever trip they are being used for.'"
It's not entirely nonsense, as some countries require UK passport holders to have six months of validity left on their passport from the date of entry into the country. Brazil being one such, as many have found to their cost. I'd agree that you can travel within the EU even if your passport expires tomorrow and those from say Germany who have National ID cards could travel back home using their ID card even if their passport ran out.
But basically this is incompetence and lack of proper training of airline staff responsible. We often fly with Jet2 but their website says:
Quote British Citizens will need a full 10 year passport to travel to the destinations we feature and are generally required to have 6 months remaining on it after the scheduled date of return'"
This is really vague. But it doesn't mean "Jet2 definitely requires" as if it did, they would say. It must be referring to the general minimum requirement it thinks applies across all the countries they fly to. It is a bit silly of them not to actually specify the actual position for people travelling to EU destinations, which must be the majority of their passengers.
Anyway, I don't think Jet2 staff check passport expiry dates or don't seem to do more than glance at your photo as you pass through, so as long as Passport control let you out which obviously they will, it's fine. We often go to Spain and I can't ever remember anybody even being in the arrival passport check booth, in some decades.
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| Quote ="Standee"OK, who in their right mind books a holiday without knowing they have a valid passport?'"
My brother
20 years ago we went for a cycling holiday to France - at that point our kid was a world traveller, he had literally hiked around the world twice over the previous five years and had just come back from living in Australia for twelve months - as we got the bikes off the car in Portsmouth he checked his passport, showing off all of his fancy visas and entry/exit stamps against mine which had only seen Spain at that time, then he noticed that his passport had expired three months earlier.
This was in 1993 and perhaps they weren't as vigilant, but we continued on our journey to France and he went through four passport checks without anyone noticing
Anyway, mine expires in September and I'm not renewing it, not for £80 I'm not, I don't need a passport to identify myself, I know who I am, its them who have the problem and if they want me to carry a document to prove what I already know then they can pay for the f**kin thing themselves.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"My brother
20 years ago we went for a cycling holiday to France - at that point our kid was a world traveller, he had literally hiked around the world twice over the previous five years and had just come back from living in Australia for twelve months - as we got the bikes off the car in Portsmouth he checked his passport, showing off all of his fancy visas and entry/exit stamps against mine which had only seen Spain at that time, then he noticed that his passport had expired three months earlier.
This was in 1993 and perhaps they weren't as vigilant, but we continued on our journey to France and he went through four passport checks without anyone noticing
Anyway, mine expires in September and I'm not renewing it, not for £80 I'm not, I don't need a passport to identify myself, I know who I am, its them who have the problem and if they want me to carry a document to prove what I already know then they can pay for the f**kin thing themselves.
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then you wont be travelling soon mate!
and if you think £80 is expensive, try getting travel to Russia!
(although I do agree, these people are meant to be CIVIL SERVANTS, and they are neither civil nor serve anyone except themselves!
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| Quote ="Standee"then you wont be travelling soon mate!
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To be honest that really doesn't bother me anymore, there are lots of places in the UK that I haven't seen properly yet including any part of Scotland thats north of Stirling, disgraceful I know.
As for the usual "Ah but we don't get the weather..." well we do, the weather is what makes this country so fascinating and if anyone is scared of a bit of rain spoiling their holiday then I can introduce them to Go Outdoors and some fabulous new equipment called "waterproofs" - I burn to death in hot weather and hate beach holidays so going abroad isn't quite the attraction to me as it is to your average punter in an airport queue (don't get me started on airports either).
The only slight snag will be when my company send me to a job on a nuclear power station again as you need a passport as proof of ID and they have to pre-book you using your passport number, in fact I'm looking forward to seeing if the combination of private security and British armed police can spot that my passports expired
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| still no joy getting through to the liverpool passport office to make an appointment... 10 days to go!
might just tell him to turn up in liverpool at the office
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| I remember the one year passports you got at the post office the lads used to get them before we hit Spain 8.50 I think they were
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I remember the one year passports you got at the post office the lads used to get them before we hit Spain 8.50 I think they were'"
They were stopped years ago.
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| my mate finally got through today, the passport is in durham...looks like he will have to have a trip up north!
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| How's he gonna get into t'North without a passport though?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"To be honest that really doesn't bother me anymore, there are lots of places in the UK that I haven't seen properly yet including any part of Scotland thats north of Stirling, disgraceful I know.'"
Staggering, that's the best bit.
Quote ="JerryChicken"As for the usual "Ah but we don't get the weather..." well we do, the weather is what makes this country so fascinating '"
We are in the middle of a heatwave here, if it were London you'd see the "cor what a scorcha" headlines, as it is they just burn and get on with it here.
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Your company needs it then invoice them for it. But I'm guessing no
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Staggering, that's the best bit.'"
I have to sort this out, the furthest north Ive been was when I went to Andy Murrays hotel nr Stirling earlier this year and the scenery was building up nicely then, worse still my wife works for a group of Scottish hotels and she gets a decent staff discount - and we STILL havent taken advantage yet - I could organise a really nice 7 day round trip around the highlands ending up on Skye, all at half price!!
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