If Farage wanted an exit he would stand down altogether - him standing in Labour marginals will strengthen Labour's position as he splits the leave vote.

He will simply campaign for a harder Brexit than Boris can deliver. Only no deal will work for him and there is no chance of that happening.

I think too much is being made of Trump - he is very likely to be out of power in 2020. Only Bernie would have any empathy with Corbyn amongst the leading American candidates. Guarantee Biden, Bloomberg etc would have exactly the same view of what is best for the UK and it wouldn't be Corbyn.

No deal can definitely still happen.
Assuming that Boris gains the overall majority that he craves, either with Tories or, more likely with some form of coalition with The Brexit Party, they (the coalition) will simply negotiate in a fashion that hacks off the EU, ensuring that they cannot negotiate a Free Trade Deal by the deadline at the end of 2020, at which point it will be a case of "see ya later" and we WILL leave with no deal.
The moderate majority, will need to do everything possible to prevent this from being possible.
IF Farage ends up holding the balance of power, which is certainly a strong possibility then, anything can happen.

The Brexit party will not win a seat - if Johnson wins a majority he could use it to turn the tables on Barnier to get a better deal - EU moved when they thought it could happen until the Benn act gave them back the power.

We have been terrible at negotiating with the EU - May didn't want to leave and she was a disaster - just like anything she touched - a firmer stance might work better.

What exactly do we want

We want the UK to negotiate from a position of strength - something it has failed to do to date.

To achieve what though, there must be hundreds of permutations of Brexit - I struggle to see exactly what we want. My understanding of the referendum was that a leave vote was for quite a hard leave, but no one seems to be able to define what it is we’re looking for.

My understanding would be:
Free trade no tariffs
No free movement
Protection for existing EU citizens in the UK and UK citizens in the EU
Remove ties to ECJ - ability to make our own laws
No financial contribution to the EU

You're for a hard border in northern Ireland then? It's a legitimate position although not one I'd support.

Free access to the European single market (I'm interpreting your "free trade" here) will take some negotiating with those priors but after a few years we should be able to get a deal.

I remember seeing someone early on in the whole Brexit thing, describe our position as being in the EU but wanting to behave as if we weren't, then being a non-member but wanting to behave as if we were. Your list is pretty much that.

I think that your hopes fall down on "Free trade with no tariffs", primarily because we (the UK) would also like to negotiate independent trade deals with the rest of the world.
Interestingly, why would any nation, currently trading with the EU, wish to rock the boat by offering the UK a better deal - we necessarily have to be offered something not quite as good as the EU are achieving.

The elephant in the room would still remain "the Irish border", something utterly neglected by EVERYONE during the referendum, although Boris does now seem happy to chuck N. Ireland under the Brexit Bus.

The real reason behind Brexit could be a significant tightening of the laws surrounding how businesses legally hide their cash to avoid corporation tax etc.
There was a really interesting piece on this on the BBC website earlier today but, it seems to have been removed / disappeared.
If I can find it I will put up a link.

Well having watched all events to date, NONE of the parties & MPs give a S**t about your vote out comes unless it matches their individual position of thought, they ALL are dis-in-genuine ! Even to the point of not recognizing your voting outcome what ever that outcome is !!!!!!
The one thing I have noticed is there is one person so knowledgeable and she is not selected or running. !!
She has a reputation of knowing all !!!
Who is it you may ask ??? Laura kuessnberg, NONE of the main parties like her & have complained about her !!!
She is however venomous in tone & always rounds off she knows better !!
Onwards & Upwards !!

It would be pretty spectacular if you found an MP who agreed with your perspective on every matter. We elect people to represent us, but if you're looking for outrage by reviewing each vote then yes you'll find plenty you don't agree with. That's how representative democracy works.

That’s pretty much as I saw it, and as Jonny Average I presume most other voters saw it the same at the time
Struggling to see how we get to that position though, for all BoJo’s pomp his deal is weaker than that isn’t it

And Sal's dream of what Brexit should look like is just not possible, just like my hopes of scooping the Euromillions

Someone wins the Euromillions every week

Yeah but, they're not great odds for securing the future of a whole nation.
I'm all for aiming high but, fantasy, is, well, fantasy.

I agree and why would the EU give us all that - that is why no deal was the only realistic means of exit and then negotiate the best trade deal you could.

At the risk of going round in circles, how deep do you want the Brexit recession to be ?
We are hovering just above the line 0.3% growth in the last quarter, with negative growth in the previous one and with many businesses "pulling in their horns" right now and protecting their cash, the current quarter will do well to exceed the same period as last year.
Add to that the effects of even the smoothest Brexit and we go into negative growth and if there are some bumps in the road, which "no deal" will guarantee, we're back in the red and with both of the major parties threatening to spend big after the election, we could be heading for some "interesting" times.
If you're bored or interested, take a look at the real reason for Brexit
/ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/company-tax/anti-tax-avoidance-package/anti-tax-avoidance-directive_en

Perhaps this is why the power brokers behind Brexit are so keen to get out and quick ?

Nobody actually know how bad this will be as it has never happened before and when have you seen an economic forecast that is spot on - I have yet to see one.

And being in the EU has hardly done Spain, Italy, Greece etc any favours.

Yet again you repeat this rubbish. They are all countries which have seen huge economic growth in international trade and in living standards and prosperity since joining the EU.

It's like climate change deniers conflating climate with the weather.

You really are delusional - in Spain youth unemployment is 33% - Italy and Greece are virtually bankrupt and both have had very tough economic guidelines set on them by the EU - to a point where it has brought governments down in both countries.

Being a member of the EU isn't a one stop shop to prosperity - who is to say that these countries could have grown just as much outside of the EU?

Italy (primarily due to corruption) and Greece have been economic "basket cases" for as far back as I can remember and without the strict rules set out by the EU they would have fallen further and further down the pile.
Left to their own devices they would have kept on devaluing their currency and possibly ended up with an ecconomy similar to Zimbabwe.
For all of the constraints put on them through their EU membership, I would suggest thet, despite their high youth unemployment, they would be in a far worse state than they currently are.

What makes you say that? It is very unlikely any country in Europe will end up like Zimbabwe - in or out of the EU. Africa has some challenges that are particular to that continent.

What make me say that (make a direct comparison between Italy/Greece and Zimbabwe) is the regular devaluation of currency, coupled with government's who "aren't the best" at collecting tax revenues, leading to further devaluation of currency and so on and so on.
You may not remember the days of becoming a "lira millionaire" , such was the state of Italy's own currency.
My point here being that, outside of a more financially controlled environment, both of these nations would be significantly behind where they are now.
FWIW, I believe that Italy has the potential to be a reasonably wealthy nation but, perhaps needs stronger government, Greece on the other hand is a vision of what an independent Scotland may look like.

Agreed - good points