Parler was a Site that let fascists , white nationalists, racists , conspiracy theorists . Right wing militias organise and spread hate and disinformation and violence. I know that you sympathise with their views. Fair enough.


But you are a complete hypocrite. You talk about rights when. It suits you.
If this had happened to antifa you would have been saying exactly the same . You would have been pushing law and order and saying if they have done nothing wrong they have nothing to fear You are a pseudo democrat who supports democracy when it suits and would discard it in a minute when it suits.
I care not one jot about them and they get whatever they deserve. You accuse the left of the crimes committed by those whom you sympathise with. The far right.

Just like Goebbels said about his enemies , “ accuse them of what you are guilty of”.

I have always been clear about my true colours when it comes to fascists and have Said it many times before.

So only right wing propaganda - far more harm caused by left leaning view points than ever was done under the flag of right wing politics. Mao killed 40 million, Stalin at least 20m, Lenin 14m, Pol Pot 1m - the list is long and deep.

Your myopia is duly noted

Shall we put Hitler in there FFS



Trump is an idiot leader, far too concerned with peddling his own version of right wing politics, to the ABSOLUTE detriment of the population as a whole. The racial divide, right now, is growing quickly.
ANY good leader should be bringing their people together, healing the differences and plotting a brighter future.

Trump has done NONE of those things.

Typical right wing politics of looking after just a favoured few and to hell with the rest.

Btw, you still havent come up with ANY tangible benefits of Brexit, should we take it that you dont know of any

Hitler killed < than a third of what Mao exterminated to put it into context.

I haven't yet experienced any negatives - as I said plenty of food and no price increases - imported some wine last week without any issues - so I cannot honestly see any changes and I think if asked 99% of the UK population they would say the same.

Keep trying to find miniscule negatives

Trump was only interested in the economy and he was doing an OK job until COVID - he would have walked the election with no COVID - he was never interested in culture and harmony.

Trump was never going to "walk" an election, that's a preposterous remark from someone with seemingly zero knowledge of American politics.

The country fundamentally skews Democratic, only one Republican has won a majority of voters in three decades. Trump without pandemic may have won a close election but saying he would coast it is ridiculous, as is this bizarre listing of authoritarian dictators and somehow comparing them to the terminally centrist Democratic party.

I will raise you British Imperialism
29 million in famines in India alone,
1 million in Ireland.
20,000 in boer concentration camps
Wiping out of Tasmanian aborigines ( the only successful extermination in modern history)


Slavery promoted by Britain.
1 million in the African /Atlantic slave trade

Wars promoted by Britain in pursuit of empire
Millions

Capitalism
Untold millions / billions directly and indirectly and still continuing

Britain supporting sanctions on Iraq ( particularly Tony Blair)
500,000 minimum

Never mind wars of religion
195,000,000 is a reasoned estimate crusades, wars between catholics and Protestants,inquisition etc


Colonisation of America’s

10 million mainly Spanish and English responsible


Hitler pol pot and Stalin were small fry compared to the above


Mind you only the ones who killed in England’s names get statues and buildings named after them

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He was 100% interested in culture and disharmony because that is what convinced his power base to vote for him Fear ! racism narrow interests.

Illegal Mexicans, South American’s stealing their jobs, black criminals.
Anyone who opposed him was a communist.

He 100% used culture to convince people to support him .

Deal with crime but not at the expense of privacy which is what you seemed pleased about.(and still no retraction of your smarmy comment)

Who gained 70+ million votes.

Whats Brexit go to do with it, deflecting tactics I assume.

Are you deliberately trying to trigger them?

This speech on the floor of the house by Jim Jordan is an epic conservative snowflake rant of how hard-done to they've been and how unfair it all is. These the people who have controlled the USA for decades and decades.
Utterly pathetic.

Parler enabled phones just before the capitol siege https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/13 ... _&ref_url=

Parler enabled phones just before the capitol siege https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/13 ... _&ref_url=

I'm not arguing the number of votes that Trump achieved, it was a huge number and I'm sure you remember that Hilary Clinton polled more votes than Trump when he gained power.

Their electoral system seems flawed and is certainly different to our own but, that's up to them.
Quite honestly, I'm not bothered what system they use but, Trump, from the outset, has looked a dangerous man and so, it proved.
We should perhaps be happy that a handful of deaths in a riot, directly provoked by him, was the reminder of what can happen.

As for the Brexit comment, certainly not deflection tactics, why would I want to deflect from the idiot leader ?
However, Zoo Zoo has been rather slow to respond on the subject, so, whilst replying to his post ,I took the opportunity to give him a nudge, hope that's ok with you ?

Quote ="Durham Giant"Parler enabled phones just before the capitol siege https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/13 ... _&ref_url='" Did they undertake a similar exercise with Facebook, Watsapp..........? Or would that devalue the argument

Quote ="Durham Giant"Parler enabled phones just before the capitol siege https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/13 ... _&ref_url='" Did they undertake a similar exercise with Facebook, Watsapp..........? Or would that devalue the argument

It amazes me that despite everything he has done and said over the last 4 years, that there are still people that support him.

People are willing to support anyone if you give them a fig leaf to cling to.
Of his support a chunk are just stupid, a chunk are genuine fascists/authoritarians/racists, a large proportion have been fed so many years of misinformation that they are well and truly radicalised, an increasingly small number still tolerate him because he advanced their very right wing (but not anti-democratic) agenda and a good lump of them have made triggering the other side such a huge part of their identity that a "hard man" (in their version of the world) like Trump really stimulates them.

Well summed up.

I should probably have said "It amazes me that anyone with any form of intelligence"

I suspect if it wasn't for COVID damaging the economy and job market in the US it would be Trump being inaugurated next week.

Leaders who have dealt with the pandemic well have seen bounces in their approval ratings. Trump's fundamental weakness as a leader meant he saw the opposite happen.
Being bad at your job tends to have consequences.

Maybe you could provide some examples? Don't thrown minor countries like Aus and NZ at us, let's go for the more influential economies in the world.

I agree with you and Trump basically said to each state - you are on your own no crap sticks on me. He closed the borders, which had zero impact and then basically gave up.

I don't think you can compare the likes if NZ and Aus - these are low density countries with very limited movement of people when compared to the larger European countries same goes for the SE Asian countries.

What we need to understand is why our death rate is so high - still.

Deaths per million of population.

I have linked only to larger economies

Uk. 1263

Germany. 542

Canada. 462

Japan 34 ( and that ina country full of old people!)

Denmark 286

Malaysia 18

South Korea 24

What is the population density in these countries i.e. population per sqKm

UK 278/sqkm
Canada 4/sqkm

Still I'm not sure what else we could have done other than be in permanent lockdown for a year - our cases are too high for track and trace - 50k a day say each person has 5 contacts that 250k a day in isolation!!

Of course population density over a whole country is utterly irrelevant, as you well know.
Canadians don't live equally spaced out across their vast country, that's a lame talking point even for a government apologist.