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| Quote ="HorseyHally"clearly taking snippets of my wording to fit it your argument, I made the point that it would be a fair assumption that given that somebody who's mental wiring had changed and then turned homosexual would indicate a mental relation to homosexuality. '"
You seem to be confusing coincidence with a causal relationship. We know for sure that he broke his neck during the accident - maybe that turned him gay. He was taken to hospital in an ambulance - maybe that turned him gay. He was probably given some sort of sedation and/or pain relief - maybe that turned him gay. Or maybe he was gay/bisexual all along and his brush with death lead him to take stock and decide life is too short to live a lie.
So, in short, it's not a 'fair assumption' at all - even if it could be shown that his 'mental wiring had changed'.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Such as what? That the Daily Mail gets worse not better?
That he was gay all along and found an excuse to come out?'"
Spot on. Lets wait and see if he sues them for millions.
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| I'm constantly amazed as to where people who think being gay is "immoral" or "wrong" got their thinking from.
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| Quote ="Him"I'm constantly amazed as to where people who think being gay is "immoral" or "wrong" got their thinking from.'"
There used to be a poster on here who said the Bible supported that view.
IIRC the poster quoted Jesus but I wasn't convinced at the interpretation.
However, I'm not of the view that the Bible or Jesus should be taken as gospel.
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| Quote ="rover49"Spot on. Lets wait and see if he sues them for millions.'"
I don't think he'd be very successful seeing as he appears to have said, in his own words:
"‘I was gay when I woke up and I still am. It sounds strange but when I came round I immediately felt different. I wasn’t interested in women any more. I was definitely gay. I had never been attracted to a man before – I’d never even had any gay friends."
So let's take what we know (assuming he is telling the truth): he wasn't originally gay, he was much like many posters in here - a rugby-playing 'lad'. He had a traumatic event which included a stroke and a broken neck. He now claims he's gay and has, according to his account and some vague pictorial evidence, changed dramatically.
Bearing in mind many accounts of changes of behaviour, skills and knowledge following trauma involving the brain, I don't see what the problem is.
The important thing to bear in mind is that IF this is true, it doesn't necessarily follow that all homosexuality is the result of an incorrectly wired brain. In this case, just wired differently to before the trauma.
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| Quote ="Cronus"I don't think he'd be very successful seeing as he appears to have said, in his own words:
"‘I was gay when I woke up and I still am. It sounds strange but when I came round I immediately felt different. I wasn’t interested in women any more. I was definitely gay. I had never been attracted to a man before – I’d never even had any gay friends."
So let's take what we know (assuming he is telling the truth): he wasn't originally gay, he was much like many posters in here - a rugby-playing 'lad'. He had a traumatic event which included a stroke and a broken neck. He now claims he's gay and has, according to his account and some vague pictorial evidence, changed dramatically.
Bearing in mind many accounts of changes of behaviour, skills and knowledge following trauma involving the brain, I don't see what the problem is.
The important thing to bear in mind is that IF this is true, it doesn't necessarily follow that all homosexuality is the result of an incorrectly wired brain. In this case, just wired differently to before the trauma.'"
There is a suggestion that brain structure differs in gay men compared with the general population and also in lesbian women compared with the general population. If I recall, gay men seem to have a more symmetrical hemispheres than straight men, gay women less symmetrical hemispheres than straight women.
Then there's the question of how overcrowding affects behaviour - I think there's was a famous old study that showed male rats can become homosexual in crowded conditions.
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| Apparently, he and his girlfriend at the time, were on a "break", which roughly translated means she had already dumped him, reasons not given to the press.
So he has a blow to the head and wakes up gay Why does'nt he just admit that he has always been gay. Afterall, he would'nt be the 1st gay male hairdresser...
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| Quote ="Live Wired"Apparently, he and his girlfriend at the time, were on a "break", which roughly translated means she had already dumped him, reasons not given to the press.
So he has a blow to the head and wakes up gay
Why does'nt he just admit that he has always been gay. Afterall, he would'nt be the 1st gay male hairdresser...'"
It could be that he'd put a block up and refused to accept or acknowledge it. He certainly wouldn't be the first to do that.
Equally, as has already been mentioned, he could be bisexual.
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| Anyway, back to the gym.
I spent an hour on the new machine in the gym yesterday and was as sick as a dog afterwards. Mind you, it's a great machine, chock-full of chocolate bars, crisps and fizzy drinks
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Anyway, back to the gym.
I spent an hour on the new machine in the gym yesterday and was as sick as a dog afterwards. Mind you, it's a great machine, chock-full of chocolate bars, crisps and fizzy drinks'"
Are you feeling different?
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| Quote ="Dally"Are you feeling different?'"
Nope, I'm still a lesbian trapped in a man's body
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Nope, I'm still a lesbian trapped in a man's body'"
Me too.
Not the same body, mind.
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| One of my bosses once described me as a gay man in disguise ...
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| Quote ="Dally"There is a suggestion that brain structure differs in gay men compared with the general population and also in lesbian women compared with the general population. '"
There is a suggestion? And who made this suggestion? Do they have any evidence to support their suggestion?
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| Quote ="Dally"There is a suggestion that brain structure differs in gay men '"
That would suggest that sexuality then is genetic.
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Quote ="Rock God X"There is a suggestion? And who made this suggestion? Do they have any evidence to support their suggestion?'"
To make it easy for you a media, rather than technical link:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7456588.stm
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To make it easy for you a media, rather than technical link:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7456588.stm
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| Quote ="McClennan"That would suggest that sexuality then is genetic.'"
It's always been about nature rather than nurture. But I see where you are coming from, especially given some of Dally's previous posts, where he seems to suggest that gayness can be learned
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It's always been about nature rather than nurture. But I see where you are coming from, especially given some of Dally's previous posts, where he seems to suggest that gayness can be learned'"
Suggests or hopes?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It's always been about nature rather than nurture. But I see where you are coming from, especially given some of Dally's previous posts, where he seems to suggest that gayness can be learned'"
And indeed cured by punching a near relative in the mouth.
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Translated as 'I can't find a link to the actual study'.
I'm on my phone now, but if I switch my PC on later I might try to dig out in original study. Often, what's reported in the press differs somewhat from what has actually been found. Also, this study involves only 90 people, according to the BBC. That's not exactly a massive sample size. And the article doesn't mention what percentage of people in the study showed these differences in brain structure.
All that aside, the findings seem to be being presented as normal genetic variation in brain structure causing homosexuality, rather than some sort of deformity or abnormality as you imply.
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Translated as 'I can't find a link to the actual study'.
I'm on my phone now, but if I switch my PC on later I might try to dig out in original study. Often, what's reported in the press differs somewhat from what has actually been found. Also, this study involves only 90 people, according to the BBC. That's not exactly a massive sample size. And the article doesn't mention what percentage of people in the study showed these differences in brain structure.
All that aside, the findings seem to be being presented as normal genetic variation in brain structure causing homosexuality, rather than some sort of deformity or abnormality as you imply.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"And indeed cured by punching a near relative in the mouth.'"
It was the near relative that lamped him mate, after he asked if he was gay
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It was the near relative that lamped him mate, after he asked if he was gay'"
Yes, but didn't Dally say his son was 'cured' after that?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It's always been about nature rather than nurture. But I see where you are coming from, especially given some of Dally's previous posts, where he seems to suggest that gayness can be learned'"
Russell group universities only though
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| Quote ="rover49"Russell group universities only though
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Are they upping the fees to the maximum allowed for such courses?
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| He does look like he is about to "smoke" that hairdryer in the picture! All very strange to say the least
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