That pile of crap you linked to is 130+ (although one page is Dave pretending to write it, and some others appear to be Pythonesque graphs) Not that broad an overview

you mean like Wilson,Heath,Callaghan,Thatcher,Major,BLIAR & Brown ?

I mean to the extent =of campaigning on specific pledges – and then, when in office, going straight back on those pledges. Why? Because he knows that the British love the NHS and if he'd told the truth, he would not have been anywhere near Downing Street.

That's why he had to lie; that's why, in spite of being ordered to do so by courts, he and his lackeys have still refused to reveal the risk register. But as long as the private health companies he had secret meetings with, and the private health companies that have funded La La Lansley for years can make loads more money (and then probably take it out of the country or at least avoid paying tax on it) he won't care a toss.

Blair was dismal – another believer in neo-liberal nonsense and a liar over the war. Thatcher started the entire neo-liberal attack on this country, deciding that we could get rid of industry and develop and live off a culture of 'aspirationalism' – or put another way, keeping up with the Joneses turned into a virtue. And that's without mentioning privatisation – another policy Blair continued.

Wilson? Kept us out of Vietnam and founded the Open University, so his is the most positive legacy in decades, methinks.

But back to Cameron. Specific lies, told to the electorate and then reneged on the minute he gained office.

Still, it'll also make the disgusting Daniel Hannan happy.

And the thing is, unless the whole NHS experiment fails absolutely terribly and with tragic consequences, I can see the Tories winning the next election with an absolute majority.

Mainly because there is no-one else to oppose them at the moment and probably won't be at the next election.

I wouldn't be so sure on that.

True, Labour have been somewhat lacking in policy apart from, "we wouldn't do that". But I think Miliband Minor is far from stupid. I reckon we'll soon see a shadow cabinet re-shuffle with balls Balls and no-balls Balls swapping places. Ed Balls is still tainted by his stint with Gordon Brown and basically he comes across as nothing more than a gob[is[/ihite, Yvette Cooper is a shrewder beast alltogether and Gideon would find debating with her difficult to say the least. Rachael Reeves could also give Gideon a run for his money but she does need to ditch that estuarial accent. Chuka Ummuna is another one who I reckon will benefit from accelerated promotion.

There's been no need so far for Labour to proclaim any policies but they'd better be ready because after the failure of last year's [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12657524Most pro-growth budget ever[/url, if this year's results in even more borowing and stifled growth, we could be in for some serious slanging matches

Indeed.
She had Theresa May on toast over the 'Just let em in without checking' fiasco.

I wonder how the NHS will fit into Gideon's regional public sector pay proposals?

Could we end up with health "ghettos" where Trusts are prevented from paying the going rate to attract top quality staff, with nurses and doctors choosing to work 20 miles down the road where they can get a better deal?

Look at Labour's - all it says is "Tough choices" - what the heck did that mean?

We have that already. NHS care is a postcode lottery. Also it's not national in the sense that there's no joined up care between different areas. Eg My daughter goes to school in one place, at weekend is at home and our local hospital is a couple of miles away across a county boundary. Our county has no specialist nurses to advise on her condition, the one attached to the local hospital allegedly can't because we are across the boundary, whilst being nearer than most of their county's folk. You can only register with one GP despite residing in two locations. Also the system if heavily GP based and seems likely to get more so. There seems to be this notion that your GP knows you inside out (literally!) - but the reality is that if you are fortunate to be healthy and go to a group practice the chances of them knowing you is remote! Also, with complex conditions they refuse to opine and so are pointless going to - apart to waste time for a referral to a consultant and then again as a conduit for the consultants response. The system is not great.

Surgeries are where GP practices are located. GP [ipractices [/iare not private independent companies. They are all contracted to the NHS and that contract defines the hours they work, what they must do and what they get paid for doing it.

It is a simplistic myth to say GP practices are private companies.



The idea that the scrapping of the regional health authorities and PCT's with quangos put in place to oversee the new set up is some sort of bottom up GP led reorganisation is ridiculous.



You cannot possibly claim saying any of that trumps saying that there won't be a top down reorganisation of the NHS.

[url=http://origin.library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102665899193-912/Health-Bill-Transition-Risk-Register-NC-15-Oct-10-Dept-Bd-Version-v1.pdfThe Risk Register?[/url

Given the sources who were tweeting that last night, that's the real thing.

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-17545869Patient choice in action?[/url

just send another plane load over to France for treatment ?

it's worked well since 2002 so why stop now ?

[url=http://www.gponline.com/News/article/1125900/Exclusive-NHS-Commissioning-Board-stipulate-staff-CCGs-employ/More jobs for the boys[/url

You never know, after all Lansley's mates have been employed as consultants (non-medical) to CCGs, there just might be a couple of quid left over for patient care

Lansley's latest wheeze?

[url=http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/tragic-news-for-nhs-from-yesterdays.htmlCut funding to deprived areas and redistribute it to CCGs in more affluent areas[/url

Yet more evidence of a very real drive towards a socially and politically engineered demographic: they know they'll struggle for votes in most deprived areas, so let the fookers die.

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/interactive/2012/may/09/andy-coulson-freedom-of-information-documentWorkfare coming to an NHS ward near you[/url

I dread to think what Dally's reaction to this one might be

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18143085 Can't say they weren't warned. First thing I said to Mr HWS two years ago when this shower got in was thank goodness I had my hip and knee replacements when I did or else I'd be waiting months and months if I ever got them at all considering my age.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18143085 Can't say they weren't warned. First thing I said to Mr HWS two years ago when this shower got in was thank goodness I had my hip and knee replacements when I did or else I'd be waiting months and months if I ever got them at all considering my age.

Its as plain as the nose on everyones face that in every business you can't make big cuts to budgets without affecting the frontline service to the customers - in any business.

You can tiptoe around the issue if you like and sack all of your warehouse and admin staff and then tell everyone that frontline services shouldn't be affected because all your sales and support staff are still out on the road, but you'd be buls1tting the customers if you said that and they will soon notice the difference.

For the NHS its obvious that you can't make the sort of cuts that they are talking about without affecting frontline services as indeed it is for the police, the politicians can tell us what they like but actually its only the politicians that continue to believe themselves, they are working a get-rich-in-five-years scam for themselves and I actually find myself hoping that things get much, much worse before the next election just to finally validate to everyone just what its like to run the country on a shoestring under another Tory Government who don't believe in public services, at all.

But the idea is for various providers to contract to provide defined services. No difference.

And so it begins where money matters above all else and patients are tossed aside. www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/ ... NETTXT9038

And so it begins where money matters above all else and patients are tossed aside. www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/ ... NETTXT9038

[url=http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/06/tory-councillor-force-seriously-ill-people-out-to-push-up-house-prices/The spirit of Dame Shirley Porter is alive and well and living in Surrey[/url

Get the sick and unwell out before they bring down the price of houses.

"Please sir, may I have some more" as I hold my shaky, arthritic hand holding my food bowl to the powers that be at the workhouse.

Ninteenth century? No 2012 if the Tories had their way. How the likes of Ajw71 and Dally can say its not the Tories fault is utterly beyond me.

Christ. How long till the revolution?