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| Oy! Hamza!! Hook Off!!!
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| Quote ="Dally"www.nypost.com/p/news/international/hate_imam_hey_hook_me_up_NefpTPoEtmh0lZkAqDNyPK
Bit of difference in opinion of the man between "Sabrina" and "Peter"!'"
After he has had a dump they should tell him to bend over and jet wash his clean with a fire hose, if he doesnt like it, let him stink.
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| Quote ="rover49"After he has had a dump they should tell him to bend over and jet wash his booty clean with a fire hose, if he doesnt like it, let him stink.'"
Surely he's not claiming he uses his hook to wipe his [ia[/irse. Talk about wrong tool for the job. Though maybe that explains why he's always so angry.
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| Quote ="Him"Surely he's not claiming he uses his hook to wipe his [ia[/irse. Talk about wrong tool for the job. Though maybe that explains why he's always so angry.'"
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| I don't understand how someone can commit a crime in a country when they aren't there.
That is to say, how can US jurisdiction extend into the UK?
Have I commited a US crime by having visited Cuba?
Can I therefore expect to be extradited?
He should have stood trial in this country ages ago and, if found guilty, banged up for eons.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"I don't understand how someone can commit a crime in a country when they aren't there ...'"
Because the US likes to think it has ownage of the entire intertubes.
Similarly, see suggestions from some that Julian Assange should be tried in the US for treason. Bonkers. The internet one is a more plausible argument, it would seem, if massively more complex.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"I don't understand how someone can commit a crime in a country when they aren't there..'"
What if you launched your ICBM from your underground mountain lair in Iceland, and wiped out Milton Keynes? If we assume that doing so would be an offence, then I imagine if passing through the UK you may well get yer collar felt.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What if you launched your ICBM from your underground mountain lair in Iceland, and wiped out Milton Keynes? If we assume that doing so would be an offence, then I imagine if passing through the UK you may well get yer collar felt.'"
Milton Keynes?
I'd face trial in Iceland even though I'd deserve a medal.
Even the Nazi war criminals faced trial in Germany (Nuremberg).
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| "Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough ..."!
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| Why didn't the US, UK and Swedish governments simply conspire to get these men sent to Sweden on trumped-up charges? According to clear facts presented on another thread, their feet wouldn't have touched the ground in Stockholm before they would have been put on a CIA plane bound for Guantanamo Bay. We could have got rid of them years ago.
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| Quote ="Mintball""Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough ..."!'"
One of my favourites (the poem, not Slough).
By many people, Betjeman isn't looked upon as serious poet ... but I like him.
Tinned mnds, some people.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Milton Keynes?
I'd face trial in Iceland even though I'd deserve a medal.
Even the Nazi war criminals faced trial in Germany (Nuremberg).'"
The trials were conducted by the International Military Tribunal, and certainly not "by Germany", so their venue, while symbolic, is irrelevant to the point.
If you were arrested in England, you are seriously saying that no charges would be brought, instead you'd possibly be extradited to Iceland for launching a missile without air traffic clearance, or something? Really?
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| Quote ="Mintball"Because the US likes to think it has ownage of the entire intertubes.
Similarly, see suggestions from some that Julian Assange should be tried in the US for treason. Bonkers. The internet one is a more plausible argument, it would seem, if massively more complex.'"
It was developed by the US military initially wasn't it
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| Won deportation appeal.
That's thrown the cat amongst the pigeons.
*That'll be the other Abu.......Quattada.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The trials were conducted by the International Military Tribunal, and certainly not "by Germany", so their venue, while symbolic, is irrelevant to the point...'"
Fair enough
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"If you were arrested in England, you are seriously saying that no charges would be brought, instead you'd possibly be extradited to Iceland for launching a missile without air traffic clearance, or something? Really?'"
No, to compare with the Abu Hamza case, I'd still be in Iceland and would be arrested there and should face trial there.
If I passed through UK, arrest me, fair enough.
But, in this case, Abu Hamza is being extradited to be charged with something that would be illegal here too.
Hence, IMHO, he should be tried here.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"
But, in this case, Abu Hamza is being extradited to be charged with something that would be illegal here too.
Hence, IMHO, he should be tried here.'"
It took you a month to come up with that? Hmm. But still wrong. I think you must have forgotten that AH was indeed prosecuted, convicted and jailed by the courts in the UK. The US wants him for other offences which are their business, including alleged offences re the setting up of a terrorist training camp in Oregon which, according to Google Maps, is currently not in the UK. A fact it has in common with Mr. Hamza.
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