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| This could be a bloody long list! I exclude any historical figures. Just ones I cam across one way or another in my lifetime.
Neil Armstrong would certainly have to be on my personal heroes list, I take the point that all the Apollo crews were objectively pretty much equally heroic but if the point of the thread is who became - for whatever reason - heroes [ito me[/i then Armstrong it is. What he achieved made a great impression on me, and started off a lifelong interest in astronomy. But I well remember Collins, I remember as a kid thinking what it must be like, so near and yet so far.
Woody Allen. I really get his humour and his take on life.
Jimmy Thompson, Keith Mumby and and Karl Fairbank. When I was a kid watching the Northern, I was just in awe of them. Trevor Foster.
Neil Young, Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan. They redefined music completely for me, made me realise that they could write and sing about anything, and in a way that resonated.
David Attenborough. Just inspirational.
Coe, Ovett and Cram. Could never wait for the next instalment.
Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton and Pelé. The epitome of sportsmen. Probably throw in George Best too.
Freddie Trueman, Geoff Boycott and Brian Close. Bishan Bedi and Muralitharan, Merv Hughes and Dennis Lillee, Viv Richards, Clive LLoyd, Michael Holding. Cricket as she should be played.
Great thread this. I could go on for yonks.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"who are they WZ ? looks like a public hanging ?
it's not that nice Mr Gentle being hanged is it ?'"
They were about to be transported to Australia for 7 years for daring to unite in protest at the starvation wages they were being paid.
Some on here would doubtless call them, the good old days.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"This is going to soound corny, trite, I know, but what the hell...
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blimey JC, that's an heroic story but what a choice to have to make ?
my missus' condition is 'terminal' but she still has palliative options to make life 'liveable' but i'm sure the day will come when the options run out...
if you can imagine 1955 (I was I year old) - my dad was diagnosed with a brian tumour about the size of a marble apparently - remember this is 1955 - he was sent to St Barts in London and underwent more tests, the cheif surgeon told him there was no cure and a quick death was certain but, if he wanted to take the risk he could be a guinea pig in research brain surgery techniques, along with 7 other guinea pigs - well, after surviving 4 years in POW camps in Austria & Germany he wasn't afraid so he agreed to have the surgery - basically the surgeon drilled a hole about 1.5 inches into his skull and with some pliers and a blade reached in and cut out the tumour - to get to the tumour he had to cut through several nerves including the nerves serving the right side of his body - my dad survived but was deaf in his right ear and had only 50% use of the rest of the right side so he limped and couldn't see too well with his right eye for example because the nerves serving the muscles wouldn't keep the eye open so he did exercises to keep the muscles as strong as possible - now my dad not only brought up three sons with my mum but also built up a decent business which kept us fed and watered - he used to go to London once yearly for a check up but 30 years after the operation the specialists said he was 'cured' and not to waste their time any longer...he died in 2005 at the age of 86 some 50 years after the 'experimental' operation...now that's what I call a hero !
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| Quote ="sanjunien"
it's not that nice Mr Gentle being hanged is it ?'"
He'll soon get hung,drawn and quartered by many of our lot if he isn't doing the business this time next year.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"This could be a bloody long list! I exclude any historical figures. Just ones I cam across one way or another in my lifetime.
Neil Armstrong would certainly have to be on my personal heroes list, I take the point that all the Apollo crews were objectively pretty much equally heroic but if the point of the thread is who became - for whatever reason - heroes [ito me[/i then Armstrong it is. What he achieved made a great impression on me, and started off a lifelong interest in astronomy. But I well remember Collins, I remember as a kid thinking what it must be like, so near and yet so far.
Woody Allen. I really get his humour and his take on life.
Jimmy Thompson, Keith Mumby and and Karl Fairbank. When I was a kid watching the Northern, I was just in awe of them. Trevor Foster.
Neil Young, Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan. They redefined music completely for me, made me realise that they could write and sing about anything, and in a way that resonated.
David Attenborough. Just inspirational.
Coe, Ovett and Cram. Could never wait for the next instalment.
Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton and Pelé. The epitome of sportsmen. Probably throw in George Best too.
Freddie Trueman, Geoff Boycott and Brian Close. Bishan Bedi and Muralitharan, [uMerv Hughes[/u and Dennis Lillee, Viv Richards, Clive LLoyd, Michael Holding. Cricket as she should be played.
Great thread this. I could go on for yonks.'"
Worthy, just for that top lip.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"icon_lol.gif
He'll soon get hung,drawn and quartered by many of our lot if he isn't doing the business this time next year.'"
not the hero or saviour you thought he would be then WZ ?
who are those people under the tree BTW FFS ?
it's not the London Broncos fan club holding their AGM is it ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"not the hero or saviour you thought he would be then WZ ?
who are those people under the tree BTW FFS ?
it's not the London Broncos fan club holding their AGM is it ?
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a) Patience and he could take us back to where we belong.
b) Agricultural labourers from Tolpuddle.
c) Too many in attendance for a Broncos AGM.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"a) Patience and he could take us back to where we belong.
b) Agricultural labourers from Tolpuddle.
c) Too many in attendance for a Broncos AGM.'"
a) dream on
b) transported to Oz and sent back to play RL in the SL
c) agreed
wouldn't the lot from Peterloo be classed as 'heroes' for fighting for the rights of man ? just as much as that lot in Dorset did ?
and how about people like William Wilberforce and John Howard and others who did so much for social reform ? surely they would be classed as real 'heroes' ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"a) dream on
b) transported to Oz and sent back to play RL in the SL
c) agreed
wouldn't the lot from Peterloo be classed as 'heroes' for fighting for the rights of man ? just as much as that lot in Dorset did ?
and how about people like [uWilliam Wilberforce[/u and John Howard and others who did so much for social reform ? surely they would be classed as real 'heroes' ?'"
We'll induct him seeing as he was born in Hull.
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| This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
Judas Iscariot wasn't a bad old stick, agree?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"blimey JC, that's an heroic story but what a choice to have to make ?
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...and the thing is he was just "ordinary", he wasn't a big tough lad, quite the opposite really but what was important to him in those last few weeks was taking a trip into the dales to have dinner in a pub with his wife, having just two more nights out with us, going to Elland Rd one more time, and he couldn't have enjoyed any of that being filled full of chemicals in the hope that it would buy him one more week of being filled full of chemicals and feeling like crap.
As someone else has mentioned you can find that sort of heroism in many people with terminal diagnosis, I know my own mother wouldn't ever talk about the cancer that eventually killed her, didn't let it stop her doing anything until the very last week, you often wonder how you would cope but it would appear that its a common thread through many lives.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
I like to be lashed, beaten and humiliated - but I pay for that.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Top of my list would be Dennis Skinner.
A miner's son who passed his scholarship to the grammar school and still went down the pit because that's where all his mates were. Anything else you need to know is [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_SkinnerHERE[/url
If only we had more like him'"
Good call. I met Pat Wall and Dave Nellist at a conference once and these guy's were of the same mould, only interested in serving and not accumulate money, unlike todays crop of 'socialist' parliamentarians.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
I know a film is not always an accurate portrayal of facts, but I liked the bit at the end when they sang 'always look on the bright side of life'
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"...and the thing is he was just "ordinary", he wasn't a big tough lad, quite the opposite really but what was important to him in those last few weeks was taking a trip into the dales to have dinner in a pub with his wife, having just two more nights out with us, going to Elland Rd one more time, and he couldn't have enjoyed any of that being filled full of chemicals in the hope that it would buy him one more week of being filled full of chemicals and feeling like crap.
As someone else has mentioned you can find that sort of heroism in many people with terminal diagnosis, [uI know my own mother wouldn't ever talk about the cancer that eventually killed her,[/u didn't let it stop her doing anything until the very last week, you often wonder how you would cope but it would appear that its a common thread through many lives.'"
Same here, which is what made it terminal by the time it was caught. She went for the chemo option and had a reasonable quality of life until the last month, but never complained about her lot. She mentioned the pain, but not moaning. I guess people affected like that just try to get on with things, which is pretty heroic really.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"great list MB ...'"
Thanks!
Quote ="sanjunien"... though somewhat on the heavy side with Nietzche and Marx maybe ? You're obviously a deep thinker and a philosophical soul ...'"
Well, one tries ...
Quote ="sanjunien"... so try some Shostakovich, Prokofiev & Hindemith et al to challenge and stretch your grey matter a tad more !'"
Now Shostakovich and Prokofiev I have listened to and like. It was Prokofiev's [iLt Kije[/i that introduced me to classical music in my third year at school. I went on to do O and A level. Just listening to the first piano concerto while I'm cooking this evening's meal. I'll look up Hindemith.
Quote ="sanjunien"... My dear old ma in law came into a room a couple of years ago and I was lestening to Shost no.7 (Leningrad) and she, being a lover of 'light' music ie Elaine Page, Michael Boulton & Sinatra etc (and good luck to her) yelled out ' what's that bloody rubbish ?' so I asked her what it sounded like and she replied 'it sounds like an army marching towards a battle' - indeed, it was the German army approaching Leningrad - just how clever was dear old Shost ? not a 'hero' of mine but a person that has my respect..'"
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Quote ="kirkstaller"This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
Read this ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Crean_(explorer)
And then come back and tell me why it's a sorry suggestion.
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Quote ="kirkstaller"This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
Read this ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Crean_(explorer)
And then come back and tell me why it's a sorry suggestion.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"This will probably earn me some flak, but my ultimate hero is Jesus Christ.
He came to Earth, lived a sinless life and taught us invaluable moral lessons.
But most importantly he was responsible for the most heroic gesture one could imagine – he laid down his own life so that we might live. He was lashed, beaten and humiliated. He was made to carry the instrument of his death through the streets of Jerusalem whilst men and women spat horrendous abuse at him. He was then nailed to a cross and taunted by his tormentors. He suffered in this fashion for several hours before eventually succumbing to death.
And what did he say whilst he was being murdered? [i“Father, forgive them”.[/i
=#FF0000Prove it.
Jesus may not have played the guitar well, acted in a few good films or have
flown into space. But he had more courage than the rest of this sorry list of suggestions put together.'"
You're such a self righteous it's unreal, another thread ruined while you preach.
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| Jacques Yves Cousteau.
Henri Germain Delauze.
Sir Edmund Hillary/ Tenzing Norgay.
Gerald Genta.
Abraham Louis Breguet.
François Paul Journe.
And again as cheesy as it sounds, my father. Although the fact he died when I was only fourteen, probably play's a large part in why I idolise him as I do.
Those are the one's I've narrowed it down to as the most inspirational to me. Mainly because of what they've achieved in their chosen field.
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| =#FF0000No. We are NOT having another thread taken over by your proselytising. Mintball
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A distinguished career. Not a patch on Oates though.
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| I have tended to find that my heroes ended up to be a disappointment, either in the flesh or having read something about them that tarnished my view of them. As such, I tend to look for an Anti-hero type, Dennis Skinner, Dirty Harry sort of character. atm, my 2 interests are;
1/ That Iranian puppet, who likes nothing better than threatening to wipe out Israel, and flying to the UN in New York for his annual rant. ( Gaddafi was always up for a good rant.)
2/ Kim Jong 2 (rip), a pioneer against global warming, before it even became fashionable. Ever seen a night-time photo of North Korea? Exactly, total darkness. Every other country has electricity running at full blast. Saving the planet, bloke should have won a Nobel prize years ago.
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