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Hopefully that will satisfy the Wigan fans,. Seems a very fair and honest assesment.

Yeah...OK...

Excellent interview as usual. I admit I was puzzled as to his decision but the difference between individual performance and a team performance is very important.

It's a good excuse. But had it been the other way round Tomkins an organiser and Myler a broken field runner and backup merchant, he would still have picked Myler.

100% correct.

I don't know where he gets this from anyway, Tomkins ran the show against Wales and he turned Wigans season around.

However surely Sinfield and Mcguire should be organising the team, surely he is not picking a young very inexperienced player to direct the team around the field at international level. Its an excuse, McGuire will be organising, Myler will be doing what he is told, I am sure he will do well.

How many games has Tomkins played at scrum-half this year? Surely if Wiigan fans have a gripe it should be with the selection of McGuire instead of Tomkins.

In the modern game there is no 6 or 7. The only difference is who puts the ball in the scrum. The halves will be split left and right most of the time.

Link not working for me, what does it say? "Because I promised him a game when I signed him for warrington?"

Shame you can't get the link working..........what he actually says is "Because he wanted to see how many morons would respond on message boards with insignificant drivel!!"

Recent example was the loss of Wallace from the Broncos and Lockyer filling in at 7 was completely lost.

If they generally split left and right which of Myler and McGuire are which and which side does Tomkins play? Seem to remember tOmkins playing on Wigan's right when King ran his hat-trick through him whilst McGuire also lines up on teh right for Leeds.

So following your own logic it is McGuire and Tomkins competing for that right-side slot. Which leads to teh question why have you been on here moaning about Myler playing for the last few days?

He makes no mention of Myler coming to Warrington.

If it had been the other way round Tomkins an organiser and Myler a broken field runner and backup merchant, he would have signed Tomkins.

i suppose it's a good headache that any england coach has not had for a lond time 4 decent players 5 if you include burrow, in the halfs

Your lack of knowledge us brilliant. A half back should be able to play either side of the field. Myler has not yet proved he can do this at the top level.

Tomkins isn't a sell out like Myler and Tony Smith could never get him to play for Warrington.

If you think that is all Tomkins can do, you need to look again. He is head and shoulders above Myler.

As a fellow Wigan fan you will know Tomkins has bossed the whole pack around through out the season so all this organization crap is just an excuse Tony Smtih has came up with.

Correct.

It still doesn't add up

Young player of the year
He is in the dream team
Turned Wigans season around
He scored 3 tries in his first international a week before the 4 nations
He got 3 assists in his first international a week before the 4 nations
He has been playing for the last few months unlike Myler
He is the form player in the squad
He has much more experience than Myler including 2 semi finals, big derby matches and playing infront crowds of 20,000 +

Someone give me a list representing Myler which rivals that?

I can't wait now to see if Smith plays Tomkins against Aus and NZ and then see the wire fans take the p**s if we lose, not recognising the difference between the opposition

i find it amazing how 'i'll give you a game for England' was such a deal breaker in Mylers transfer and how little Smith thinks of England (and his salary from the RFL) that he'd throw someone who isn't worthy of an England place into the pivotal No. 7 shirt!

that's unless there's a small possibility that all the Myler/Smith bashers don't actually know more about the England game plan and personnel than the National coach!!
hmmm?!?

Richie Myler Appearances 18 Tries 11 Assists 15
Sam Tomkins Appearances 22 Tries 12 Assists 7

Enough said.

Yes and it has been said before, but just to jog your memory.

Sam Tomkins
Appearances 22
Tries 12
Assists 7
Tackles 328
Missed Tackles 43
Tackle busts 58
Metres 1431
Errors 10
40:20 2

Richie Myler

Appearances 18
Tries 11
Assists 15
Tackles 181
Missed tackles 39
Tackle busts 28
Metres 1095
Errors 18
40:20 0

Also Myler is the go to man for Salford in attack he is the main player attacking for them so he will obviously get more assists. Just watch a Salford game he has played in, other than the ones v Wigan where he hid like Leon Pryce and watch how much the ball goes through him.

His defence is not good enough for international level, it will be shown if he plays against Aus and NZ.

They are on the pitch to create play break the line and create moves. The assist is only the player that plays the pass or kick before the try so if, for example, tomkins kicked to the corner carmont knocks it back to Richards and he scored then Carmont gets the assist.

These are not the correct statistics to compare two Halves. But the fact that you omitted all the other stats shows me that deep down you already know this.

Also remember that Man of Steel and Young Player of the Year are picked by other players and they picked Tomkins for YPOTY. This shows that not only do many fans believe that tomkins is a better player so do the other players. The dream team shows that the RFL think Tomkins is better too.

Plus before you think that this is simply Wigan fan bias;

I would also play Eastmond over Myler as he has also been a better player, in my opinion, than Myler. He has also played more and therefore has more match practice this season. I expect you'll come up with more rubbish figures to show why Eastmond isn't better than Myler but seriously any level headed Warrington fan will agree that Myler has been picked because Smith is coach of both teams. Just like how he picked lots of Leeds players last year...

IMO Smith is doing Myler a disservice if he picks him against Aus or NZ in an international. He hasn't yet played a big game in his life.

I think it's 12 months too early to even consider him for a starting spot.