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| Can't wait to see what logic Angelic Cynic will use to blame the dirty play by Sheffield on Leigh today
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| I know Iggy, I look forward to his contribution !
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"I'll let you know nearer the time.Lots of hard work to be done over the next few days.( Very surprised at lack of ad hominems directed at me - Must try harder! )
I was astonished,amazed,gastedflabbered at the quotes of The next head coach for England - as espoused by Yorkshireman Garry Schofield;certainly a Yorkshire bias there,me thinks -
where he mentioned that his players [url=http://www.leighreporter.co.uk/sport/leigh-centurions/rowley-backs-players-after-stormy-clash-1-7277624Had To Go To War![/url
I had seen some coaches say - war of attrition - battle - fight,etc but never use such inflammatory terms.
I couldn't work it out.
Then I got it.Due to the inferiority complex Leigh have for all things Wigan - especially Wigan Warriors - and The next head coach for England visiting the coaching team at WW when they dual-reg'd.I realized it was a quote from the author of a book where Wigan is on the title.
The Road To Wigan Pier.George Orwell.
[iSerious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting[/i
It may explain the mindset of The next head coach for England - the great man-manager who appears to have managed Hock to get more cards in a couple of months than he got in a couple of years elsewhere.
If it is to be war unlike the Labour MP for Leigh,Andy Burnham,I have an exit strategy. (Iraq War - not his 2 homes in London )
In the best selling book - Matthew:8-5 mentions a Centurion.
Matthew:8- 12 states a weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.
After the war at the LSV on Sunday I would like,on my exit,to hear the Centurions weeping and wailing and gnashing of their teeth so loudly it reaches their friends in west Yorkshire.
Really looking forward to it....Come on you Eagles....Do Not Be Doves of Peace!'"
Have you ever sought professional help ?
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| I think hes still sat in the West Stand getting advice on it from Aston.
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Sheffield Succumb To Centurions - wp.me/p3JxPK-ya
Well if the challenge wasn't big enough at the beginning, things got a whole lot bigger three minutes in. Cory Aston isn't a malicious player, never has been and never will be, he will learn from today and that's the bottom line. I send my best wishes to Gregg McNally who is in hospital at the moment. All the speculation about Sheffield players laughing at the expense of McNally has been thrown out of the water after Mitch Stringer put on the Eagles supporters page that the players were reacting to a few jibes from the North Stand. I'd be sick to my stomach if any player laughed at the expense of an injured player, no matter what team said player plies his trade for.
I thought we got stuck in with their forwards and it gave me hope we can go and face teams like Featherstone and Halifax and get the better of them when we have a full complement of players on the field. Dave Petersen was my MoM today, may not have been many choices for that but I hope Bradford keep winning because it'd be a pleasure for him to stay in an Eagles shirt. Still, two wins for a place in the top four. We go again in a week's time!
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Well if the challenge wasn't big enough at the beginning, things got a whole lot bigger three minutes in. Cory Aston isn't a malicious player, never has been and never will be, he will learn from today and that's the bottom line. I send my best wishes to Gregg McNally who is in hospital at the moment. All the speculation about Sheffield players laughing at the expense of McNally has been thrown out of the water after Mitch Stringer put on the Eagles supporters page that the players were reacting to a few jibes from the North Stand. I'd be sick to my stomach if any player laughed at the expense of an injured player, no matter what team said player plies his trade for.
I thought we got stuck in with their forwards and it gave me hope we can go and face teams like Featherstone and Halifax and get the better of them when we have a full complement of players on the field. Dave Petersen was my MoM today, may not have been many choices for that but I hope Bradford keep winning because it'd be a pleasure for him to stay in an Eagles shirt. Still, two wins for a place in the top four. We go again in a week's time!
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"There I was minding my own business,like a good boy should,when I happened across the Batley forum and I thought I would see if their fans had calmed down yet after watching Leigh Centurions on Sunday.
I decided to plagiarise this:-
[iLeigh players have been cited 28 times this year.
All the other teams combined have had players cited 52 times.
24 of these 52 times have been against Leigh.
So if you remove the games V Leigh, all the other teams COMBINED are as dirty as Leigh with 28 referrals.[/i
It's not my question,and I haven't checked it,but I never thought the officials ever bothered looking in the direction of Leigh.I am surprised.
A few years ago Leigh Life showed a supporters meeting at the LSV and the previous board were in attendance.Trevor Barton and the solicitor who was the chairman.
The local MP turned up late.( This may have been the second meeting )
It was stated that Millward had been brought in as head coach with one of his aims being to reduce the players salary from the outgoings.
To the credit of Millward,a fans favourite during his time at Leigh but not so popular in Super League with Castleford,he developed to Super League standard both Chris Hill and Ellis, with Hill also representing his country.
While Millward had the financial constraints he was able to improve players whereas the next England head coach has been able to buy players straight from Super League clubs,the last 4 being Hock,Higham,Pala and Hopkins yet despite the next England head coach being in position seemingly longer than Millward the players at Leigh do not seem to be progressing as they were under the previous regime.
The question is - Have any players improved up to Super League/International standard or are they just at Leigh as they can pay more than some Super League clubs and they are just prepared to be like Super League fans and accept mediocrity in contrast to the NRL,or success relative to an apparently sub-standard competition?
Or,as an easier question - Has the next England head coach developed the players as much as he should bearing in mind how far they had progressed in the sport prior to arriving at Leigh?
Should I expect a decent display from Leigh,this time?'"
I was wondering who this Angelic Cynic character was...
There must be a person behind the moronic warblings of a mad man I thought...
Then it hit me...
He's David Icke isn't he !
He will be banging on about track suits & calling the Queen a Lizard soon...
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| Was there any legitimate reason for an area of the field that should have been used for the warming-up by Sheffield Eagles players to be taped off? When it was finally removed by one of the coaching staff a groundsman entered the area to replace the tape and then after a few more minutes the tape was removed completely by the groundstaff.
No such area was taped off at the end of the ground where Leigh warmed up.
The youngest,slightest built player was sent from the field after winning a tackle which forced the knock-on to win his side the scrum.I did not see the offence which apparently was deserving of the red card.I expect that he has had an exemplary disciplinary record from the Under 8's and beyond,until today.
It was McNally who lay on the ground while Young Cory Aston was dismissed but he appeared to have made a full recovery shortly afterwards.
During the second half he appeared to have sustained a shoulder injury.
While Aston walked from the field Brierley 'sledged' him sufficiently to make up for the absence of McNally.
The injury sustained by McNally which led to him being stretchered from the field was where there was an overlap and our centre committed to the tackle as the ball went to the winger to score the try.The game had been lost in the first 5 minutes despite the great effort from the 12 men and it appeared to me that the tackle was late.
The Sheffield players and supporters applauded McNally from the field of play.Had the injury occurred in the first 5 minutes would it have been deemed disrespectful to keep warmed up and passing a ball about? It was very good of Keith Senior to try and keep the centre upbeat as obviously he would feel uneasy about a late challenge causing an injury to another professional.
Sadly,the objectionable home crowd only managed to up the crescendo into a joyous roar,rise as one in the seats and cheer gloriously as the smiling Hock walked from the field when he had deliberately attempted to injure another professional by punching him.
Sadly,it was left to the director of rugby to drag the next head coach of England from the official on the sidelines when McNally lay on the turf being attended to by medical staff.
You struggled to beat 12 men as the Yorkshire conspiracy has now come to a temporary end.Another club that doesn't like you face you next week,and it seems as though other Lancashire clubs will face you in the Middle 8's.
I hope McNally makes a full and speedy recovery and retains his place in the side to play Warrington next week.
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| Leigh fan here. I was stood close to your players as we waited for McNally to receive treatment; the smiles and laughter were in response to Leigh fans shouting their disgust (quite rightly too IMO) rather than anything to do with McNally's situation. Sounds like the lad will be okay, thanks. The players let you down today I'm afraid but good luck with rest of season
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| Totally unbiased summary as expected by Angelic Cynic.
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"Was there any legitimate reason for an area of the field that should have been used for the warming-up by Sheffield Eagles players to be taped off? When it was finally removed by one of the coaching staff a groundsman entered the area to replace the tape and then after a few more minutes the tape was removed completely by the groundstaff.
No such area was taped off at the end of the ground where Leigh warmed up.
The youngest,slightest built player was sent from the field after winning a tackle which forced the knock-on to win his side the scrum.I did not see the offence which apparently was deserving of the red card.I expect that he has had an exemplary disciplinary record from the Under 8's and beyond,until today.
It was McNally who lay on the ground while Young Cory Aston was dismissed but he appeared to have made a full recovery shortly afterwards.
During the second half he appeared to have sustained a shoulder injury.
While Aston walked from the field Brierley 'sledged' him sufficiently to make up for the absence of McNally.
The injury sustained by McNally which led to him being stretchered from the field was where there was an overlap and our centre committed to the tackle as the ball went to the winger to score the try.The game had been lost in the first 5 minutes despite the great effort from the 12 men and it appeared to me that the tackle was late.
The Sheffield players and supporters applauded McNally from the field of play.Had the injury occurred in the first 5 minutes would it have been deemed disrespectful to keep warmed up and passing a ball about? It was very good of Keith Senior to try and keep the centre upbeat as obviously he would feel uneasy about a late challenge causing an injury to another professional.
Sadly,the objectionable home crowd only managed to up the crescendo into a joyous roar,rise as one in the seats and cheer gloriously as the smiling Hock walked from the field when he had deliberately attempted to injure another professional by punching him.
Sadly,it was left to the director of rugby to drag the next head coach of England from the official on the sidelines when McNally lay on the turf being attended to by medical staff.
You struggled to beat 12 men as the Yorkshire conspiracy has now come to a temporary end.Another club that doesn't like you face you next week,and it seems as though other Lancashire clubs will face you in the Middle 8's.
I hope McNally makes a full and speedy recovery and retains his place in the side to play Warrington next week.'"
Do everybody a favour please when you have finished.
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n. - A person affected by lunacy; an insane person, esp. one who has lucid intervals; a madman; a person of unsound mind. 2
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"Was there any legitimate reason for an area of the field that should have been used for the warming-up by Sheffield Eagles players to be taped off? When it was finally removed by one of the coaching staff a groundsman entered the area to replace the tape and then after a few more minutes the tape was removed completely by the groundstaff.
No such area was taped off at the end of the ground where Leigh warmed up.
The youngest,slightest built player was sent from the field after winning a tackle which forced the knock-on to win his side the scrum.I did not see the offence which apparently was deserving of the red card.I expect that he has had an exemplary disciplinary record from the Under 8's and beyond,until today.
It was McNally who lay on the ground while Young Cory Aston was dismissed but he appeared to have made a full recovery shortly afterwards.
During the second half he appeared to have sustained a shoulder injury.
While Aston walked from the field Brierley 'sledged' him sufficiently to make up for the absence of McNally.
The injury sustained by McNally which led to him being stretchered from the field was where there was an overlap and our centre committed to the tackle as the ball went to the winger to score the try.The game had been lost in the first 5 minutes despite the great effort from the 12 men and it appeared to me that the tackle was late.
The Sheffield players and supporters applauded McNally from the field of play.Had the injury occurred in the first 5 minutes would it have been deemed disrespectful to keep warmed up and passing a ball about? It was very good of Keith Senior to try and keep the centre upbeat as obviously he would feel uneasy about a late challenge causing an injury to another professional.
Sadly,the objectionable home crowd only managed to up the crescendo into a joyous roar,rise as one in the seats and cheer gloriously as the smiling Hock walked from the field when he had deliberately attempted to injure another professional by punching him.
Sadly,it was left to the director of rugby to drag the next head coach of England from the official on the sidelines when McNally lay on the turf being attended to by medical staff.
=#FF0000[size=150You struggled to beat 12 men[/size as the Yorkshire conspiracy has now come to a temporary end.Another club that doesn't like you face you next week,and it seems as though other Lancashire clubs will face you in the Middle 8's.
I hope McNally makes a full and speedy recovery and retains his place in the side to play Warrington next week.'"
We nearly racked up 60 points. Wasn't much of a struggle
Aston sent off, Smeaton KO'd McNally late, high and off the ball and Taluapapa punching Hock in the back of the head. Kind of makes a mess of your 'dirty Leigh' theory doesn't it.
Still, nice to know at least one Sheffield fan went today, I didn't see or hear a single one. Embarrassing support, or lack of!
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| Yep, as I suspected, Angelic Cynic is clearly off his bleedin' rocker!
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| Cynic what a total weapon or are you Aston or Senior. Either way
Ps Don`t forget to email your weekly letter to the League Express.
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| Looks like it could be a hard run in for you Seagulls ,and bans for Aston and Smeats, .Charlie knew.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Looks like it could be a hard run in for you Seagulls ,and bans for Aston and Smeats, .Charlie knew.
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| Quote ="Nozzy"We nearly racked up 60 points. Wasn't much of a struggle
Aston sent off, Smeaton KO'd McNally late, high and off the ball and Taluapapa punching Hock in the back of the head. Kind of makes a mess of your 'dirty Leigh' theory doesn't it.
Still, nice to know at least one Sheffield fan went today, I didn't see or hear a single one. Embarrassing support, or lack of!'"
We lost by 40 points to London,at Blackool - No dramas:no cards.Lost by 34 points at Bradford - same again.
It was 13 v 13.For your victory you used up all your interchanges and for a full time team looked remarkably unfit.
You haven't mentioned the off the ball late tackle on Smeaton after he passed the ball for the last try and he was forced to the ground.Unlike Leigh the Sheffield players don't whinge to the referee.
Perhaps with the money saved from paying for a conditioner you should spend the money on red cards,so the players can wave them at the referee and save their energy with the verbals. Trying to get fellow professionals sent off is hardly sportsmanship - a word little understood by anyone associated with your club.
Can I take it that Dixon will change from a well disciplined young man to one with attitude,like McNally.
Once again it seems someone goes from serious injury to not so serious.Bit like Barlow after his usual punch up v Halifax,McNally not as injured as first appeared.
You must be going for the sympathy vote.Bit dramatic having an ambulance and paramedic vehicle outside the ground with revolving lights still in operation.
If Hock had been punched he wouldn't have left the field smiling - it was a push as he attempted to play the ball.You must have the same imagination as the 'supporter' who saw Smeaton deliver a forearm smash on McNally.
Yes,we were quiet.We enjoyed our time at Animal Farm and it reinforced our opinion that empty vessels make the most noise.
Please take your quick wit and repartee onto the Warrington forum - they await round 2 with eager anticipation.
We,of course,eagerly await our next trip to your welcoming home.Not!
Watching the replay Sam Smeaton raises his arm in an apology gesture immediately he realizes his mistake.
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| Well the 'dirty leigh' tag once again has seen a yorkshire team face leigh with thuggish tactics. McNally was targeted all game right from the off which must have been a tactic from aston, i wouldnt expect anything else to be honest. Gaz Hock once again gets sin binned for getting punched and doing nothing. Those that didnt attend the game will no doubt still be talking about Hock rather than astons kick to the head or the very late and dangerous swinging arm to McNally. I predict some heavy bans coming un the way of shedfield. Great to see the sheffield fans out in numbers at the LSV!!
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| Quote ="Nozzy"Could be turn out to be a disaster for Sheff today.'"
Not really. Brambani comes in for Aston. Walker comes in for Taulapapa (been playing 13 recently) and we can switch Duane Straugheir to centre in replacement of Sam Smeaton. That's if all get reprimanded by the RFL.
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| I look forward to the video! Hope it shows Hock resisting a punch, it will be historic if so. What a great quote about leythers - "empty vessels most sound" love it and how true -
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| Sucks no highlight of boxing? Still a plenty of forward passess. Astons wrestling throw was very impressive - no kicks to the head though why am I not surprised - empty vessels need to go to spec savers with the ref! "Sending off sufficent!"
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"We lost by 40 points to London,at Blackool - No dramas:no cards.Lost by 34 points at Bradford - same again.
It was 13 v 13.For your victory you used up all your interchanges and for a full time team looked remarkably unfit.
You haven't mentioned the off the ball late tackle on Smeaton after he passed the ball for the last try and he was forced to the ground.Unlike Leigh the Sheffield players don't whinge to the referee.
Perhaps with the money saved from paying for a conditioner you should spend the money on red cards,so the players can wave them at the referee and save their energy with the verbals. Trying to get fellow professionals sent off is hardly sportsmanship - a word little understood by anyone associated with your club.
Can I take it that Dixon will change from a well disciplined young man to one with attitude,like McNally.
Once again it seems someone goes from serious injury to not so serious.Bit like Barlow after his usual punch up v Halifax,McNally not as injured as first appeared.
You must be going for the sympathy vote.Bit dramatic having an ambulance and paramedic vehicle outside the ground with revolving lights still in operation.
If Hock had been punched he wouldn't have left the field smiling - it was a push as he attempted to play the ball.You must have the same imagination as the 'supporter' who saw Smeaton deliver a forearm smash on McNally.
Yes,we were quiet.We enjoyed our time at Animal Farm and it reinforced our opinion that empty vessels make the most noise.
Please take your quick wit and repartee onto the Warrington forum - they await round 2 with eager anticipation.
We,of course,eagerly await our next trip to your welcoming home.Not!
Watching the replay Sam Smeaton raises his arm in an apology gesture immediately he realizes his mistake.'"
You my friend are a very silly individual. Your teams approach to the game yesterday was a disgrace. Fev, Fax and now Sheffield cant match us this season so you resort to dirty tactics and blame Leigh. lucky for us the discipline commitee are not that stupid. You have a complete distane for Leigh which is your right, but dont try and defend the undefendable and dont make out that Greg mcNally was faining his injury, read the papers this morning and you will see that a yound lad died playing rugby at the weekend from a head injury, thats why we have ambulances, you should be ashamed of yourself Grow a set , and admit that yesterday Sheffield let themselves down and stop burrying your head in the sand. You remind me of a stupid parent who blames everyone else without seeing any wrong with there own.
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| Quote ="Leigh Sappers" Your teams approach to the game yesterday was a disgrace. Fev, Fax and now Sheffield cant match us this season so you resort to dirty tactics and blame Leigh.'"
I thought we more than matched you at the Keepmoat actually, we just lost our way when QLT threw the ball to Brierley.
Yesterday was a different story altogether, although I'd have been confident of our chances if Cory hadn't got sent off.
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