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| Quote ="Grendel"Extreme Dave,
What you mean like Scott Gibbs, Scott Quinnell, Jonathan Davies, Alan Bateman, Kevin Ellis, John Devereaux, Dai Watkins?
Dunno how the ENGLISH UTL converts do, but WELSH UTL players don't seem to struggle and certainly don't cower.'"
In the past, there was an understanding that the player's first season wasn't going to be a good one and they would be judged on their second and subsequent seasons.
I don't think this kind of attitude exists any more in modern sport, certainly English league to union converts were expected to be up to international rugby with a few club games under their belt.
I think expectations of Henson's performances, particular in his first season, would be unrealistically high and he would get torn apart by the media (as well as league fans) for failing to live up to them.
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"In the past, there was an understanding that the player's first season wasn't going to be a good one and they would be judged on their second and subsequent seasons.
I don't think this kind of attitude exists any more in modern sport, certainly English league to union converts were expected to be up to international rugby with a few club games under their belt.
I think expectations of Henson's performances, particular in his first season, would be unrealistically high and he would get torn apart by the media (as well as league fans) for failing to live up to them.'"
Henson's been a divisive character his whole career though, the criticism wouldn't bother him. Even when he was being lauded in Wales the outside world was criticising him. It speaks volumes that he's never played in a losing Wales team in the Six Nations.
Personally, I think he's one of the best Union players around on his day, and a fit Gavin Henson would have the potential to be one of the best in Super League.
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| Quote ="ajhcrusader"
Personally, I think he's one of the best Union players around on his day, and a fit Gavin Henson would have the potential to be one of the best in Super League.'"
Not disagreeing.............but what position do you think he would fill and why?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Not disagreeing.............but what position do you think he would fill and why?'"
Quite a few positions I think he could play.
He could easily slot in at Stand Off, he's a great footballer, naturally a #10 in Union, and probably better defensively than most stand offs in rugby league.
He could just as easily play at Centre too, his angles of running are superb, his pace and footwork are underrated, and again he is brilliant defensively.
Loose forward might be worth a shot too, but I think Centre or Stand Off would be his best bet.
Also, his kicking game is superb, he would increase our 40-20 count considerably without a doubt, and his goal kicking is brilliant too.
The more I think about it, the more I want to happen. I hear more rumours about it every week, and I was told last week that this period of 'indefinite, unpaid leave' he's on is in fact garden leave, and that something will be announced in the coming week. In fairness, it wasn't the most reliable of sources, but it is feasible.
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| Quote ="ajhcrusader"Quite a few positions I think he could play.
He could easily slot in at Stand Off, he's a great footballer, naturally a #10 in Union, and probably better defensively than most stand offs in rugby league.
He could just as easily play at Centre too, his angles of running are superb, his pace and footwork are underrated, and again he is brilliant defensively.
Loose forward might be worth a shot too, but I think Centre or Stand Off would be his best bet.
Also, his kicking game is superb, he would increase our 40-20 count considerably without a doubt, and his goal kicking is brilliant too.
The more I think about it, the more I want to happen. I hear more rumours about it every week, and I was told last week that this period of 'indefinite, unpaid leave' he's on is in fact garden leave, and that something will be announced in the coming week. In fairness, it wasn't the most reliable of sources, but it is feasible.'"
i think people look at henson and assume he is a primma donna but ive been watching him for a while and he is a tough defender, very underestimated. i reckon he would love the extra tackling in league
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| He looks like one of those players who never reach their full potential. He's a good player, but he appears to have problems from outside the game, and reminds me of a Danny Wilson, who has a famous footballer son. Never knew when he would play, and yet he could be devastating when he did.
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| Let's just see if he signs in the first place and then let's see how good he is at league after a few seasons.
Either way, we all agree from a publisity point of view he's pure gold for the Celtic.
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| HA! Yeah, if Henson signs for us, the Welsh and British national press will go itno meltdown and if we weren't being slagged off enough anyway, we'd be slagged to within an inch of our lives.
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| Quote ="Grendel"HA! Yeah, if Henson signs for us, the Welsh and British national press will go itno meltdown and if we weren't being slagged off enough anyway, we'd be slagged to within an inch of our lives.'"
How do you slag someone to within an inch of their lives pray tell
Is this some form of S&M exclusive to you cottage burners?
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| Okay busted! I was taking liberties with the Queen's English (I thought she was German). She lives near you doesn't she?
Not sure what S&M is. Something to do with shearing or mutton?
Come home to a real fire. Buy a holiday house in Wales.
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| Quote ="Grendel"Come home t0 a real fire. Buy a holiday house in Wales.'"
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| I like henson, he has a good skill set and is a natural talent. More importantly he will bring massive exposure to the club and the game.
He clearly needs a break to get his head right and regain some enthusiasm, so we should actively pursue him and do whatever it takes to make him feel loved again.
Money is no issue, if he fails as a player we still gain incredible exposure. If he succeeds then great. It's a win win no brainer decision.
This could be the making of rl in wales, noble will take care of the playing side and turn you into a force.
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| Quote ="Grendel"Come home to a real fire. Buy a holiday house in Wales.'"
Only because it's like an African hut, made from dung, clay and straw with no windows!!!
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| Quote ="DESMONDO"Only because it's like an African hut, made from dung, clay and straw with no windows!!!'"
It says Wales not Widnes you clown!! Anyway shouldn't you be in school now? (you know the place you break into each night to sniff the tippex)
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| Quote ="gutterfax"740 posts and all of them worthless, I've got unlimited internet and I still feel it's been wasted reading your rubbish
Beat you to it Bazza!'"
ahahahahaaaaaaaa
Thats my new signature!
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| Quote ="Traffic"It says Wales not Widnes you clown!! Anyway shoudn't you be in school now? (you know the place you break into each night to sniff the tippex)'"
How far do you live from Merthyr Tydfil Traffy??
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"How far do you live from Merthyr Tydfil Traffy??'"
About 10 - 15 miles, but nowhere near the Gurnos before you start
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| Quote ="Traffic"About 10 - 15 miles, but nowhere near the Gurnos before you start
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Dammit!
I was preparing some good material to abuse you with
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| Quote ="Traffic"So shall I get the bar instead?'"
Barry McKenzie has the perfect answer to being threatened with an iron bar.
A big yellow streak down his spine that helps make the decision to run away from anyone threatening unlawful personal violence towards him.
Stick to the online insults Traffy.
Maybe (just maybe) one day you will be as good as Grendel
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Barry McKenzie has the perfect answer to being threatened with an iron bar.
A big yellow streak down his spine that helps make the decision to run away from anyone threatening unlawful personal violence towards him.
Stick to the online insults Traffy.
Maybe (just maybe) one day you will be as good as Grendel
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(like my new sig?)
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| Quote ="Traffic"icon_razz.gif (like my new sig?)'"
At least credit it to me
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"At least credit it to me
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No!
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