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| Just give them a chance. Who knows what will happen. I do feel sorry for those supporters in south wales who have supported them from the 1st game, its like thanks for your support, but goodbye.
Imagin if a football club just moved to another town, hang on there was. Wimbledon, now MK Dons.
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| Quote ="andysilsden"Just give them a chance.'"
errr, the RFL have just given a Welsh club the opportunity to waste resources and 3 years on "a chance"! How many chances do we offer. What next??
Quote ="andysilsden" Who knows what will happen..
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and there's the rub I believe. There doesn't appear to be any meaningful market research for selling the RL product in Wrexham. AN untried RL area that has an established footy club. Apart from the odd one or two fans who will attend and some out of 'curiosity', this hurridly organised venture, spurred as much by LS desire to get shut of the Crusaders ASAP than any developmental reason, appears to be pinning it's hope on an increased away support to function!! There does not appear to be any other firm business planning at the mo other than someone with a few bob prepared to underwrite the coming season, and the welsh/rfl have been there before. Madness. Shear bloody madness.
Woods and Lewis would struggle to manage a fish and chip shop.
Leighton Samuels does not come out of this sordid affair with any shred of credibility.
The current arrangement for the club has 'sold out' the south welsh fans and made another mockery of the game - tho to be fair, making a mockery out of twit and tw@ is not difficult!
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| Will there be a Wrexham ARL development team in the Merit league 2010 & maybe even one from Deeside?
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| Quote ="Tallaght RL"Will there be a Wrexham ARL development team in the Merit league 2010 & maybe even one from Deeside?'"
Too early to say as obviously they will need a team of people prepared to put the hours in. I think Wrexham and Deeside may be a bit over ambitous.
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| in which case you have to say "what's the point"???
A situation made even worse by the strides made in S Wales with their junior set-up! I can see that falling off big time now!
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"in which case you have to say "what's the point"???
A situation made even worse by the strides made in S Wales with their junior set-up! I can see that falling off big time now!'"
The newly formed South Wales club are set to continue their excellent work with juniors in the region.
I'm trying to be realistic - hey, we could always go down the preferred route of forming Wrexham Raiders and Deeside Dragons straight away, enter them in the RLC and then moan when they don't fulfill any fixtures. That'll keep the flatcappers busy.
I know the level of work and processes needed to start a successful, long-lasting amateur club and it's not easy. I hope somebody wants to step up and form an open-age club in Wrexham and I'll help them out but it might not happen overnight.
Junior development in the area is something, I am sure, the "new" Crusaders are well aware of and will pursue.
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| Quote ="Gladiators"The newly formed South Wales club are set to continue their excellent work with juniors in the region.
I'm trying to be realistic - hey, we could always go down the preferred route of forming Wrexham Raiders and Deeside Dragons straight away, enter them in the RLC and then moan when they don't fulfill any fixtures. That'll keep the flatcappers busy.
I know the level of work and processes needed to start a successful, long-lasting amateur club and it's not easy. I hope somebody wants to step up and form an open-age club in Wrexham and I'll help them out but it might not happen overnight.
Junior development in the area is something, I am sure, the "new" Crusaders are well aware of and will pursue.'"
Hopefully Crusaders will be able to give Gerald at Bangor University RL a lift in his efforts to develop RL in North Wales. Its thanks to Gerald etc at Bangor that Tallaght RL survived to see 2010. A strong RL presence in North Wales can really help RL in the Republic.
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| Looking forward to them coming. I'll obviously be watching he Warrington game but I wil be attending other games also i.e Saints, Leeds and Wigan,
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| Im with Rotherham Fev Fan. The idea of Celtic was to spread the game in the south of Wales. Doing so alienated most of the rugby league heartlands when it was clear to most that the club would go the way every other team in the south of wales would go!
The move to north wales does 2 things keeps alive the team in wales claim and ensures attendances will be boosted due to away followings! Its a typical RFL farce and if they get another franchise then teams like Fax, Leigh, Widnes, Fev, Barrow etc might as well pack up!!
I never went to Bridgend in principle! I may not bother with Wrexham either!!
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Im with Rotherham Fev Fan. The idea of Celtic was to spread the game in the south of Wales. Doing so alienated most of the rugby league heartlands when it was clear to most that the club would go the way every other team in the south of wales would go!
The move to north wales does 2 things keeps alive the team in wales claim and ensures attendances will be boosted due to away followings! Its a typical RFL farce and if they get another franchise then teams like Fax, Leigh, Widnes, Fev, Barrow etc might as well pack up!!
I never went to Bridgend in principle! I may not bother with Wrexham either!!'"
I agree my team widnes will never get into superleague with the
rfl in charge.I feel we are wasting our money when our youth will get picked up by a superleague club.This is so unfair on all championship clubs.I like the game to spread but not to the detremental of the heartland clubs.Widnes,doncaster etc never get help if go into adminstration, we got a 9 point penalty deduction.No offence to celtic but i believe sport should be all on equal terms. RFL
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Im with Rotherham Fev Fan. The idea of Celtic was to spread the game in the south of Wales. Doing so alienated most of the rugby league heartlands when it was clear to most that the club would go the way every other team in the south of wales would go!
The move to north wales does 2 things keeps alive the team in wales claim and ensures attendances will be boosted due to away followings! Its a typical RFL farce and if they get another franchise then teams like Fax, Leigh, Widnes, Fev, Barrow etc might as well pack up!!
I never went to Bridgend in principle! I may not bother with Wrexham either!!'"
Agreed the whole thing is a farce the idea of a welsh club in SL was expansion, how far is Wrexham from Widnes or St Helens 20 - 30 miles? How much more of this lunacy do we have to put up with? I whole heartedly support expanding the game but clubs need to start at the bottom develop a fan base and and introduce rl into the community to extract the best of the local talent, if this takes 10/15 years thats what it takes.
I do not wish it but I fully expect this to fail within 2 years, it doesnt matter how much money is thrown at it, I see Noble has already started with his excuses today. The rfl was looking for expansion what it has got is division and ridicule.
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| Quote ="Soldierboy"I agree my team widnes will never get into superleague with the
rfl in charge.I feel we are wasting our money when our youth will get picked up by a superleague club.This is so unfair on all championship clubs.I like the game to spread but not to the detremental of the heartland clubs.Widnes,doncaster etc never get help if go into adminstration, we got a 9 point penalty deduction.No offence to celtic but i believe sport should be all on equal terms.
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When did we go into administration?
We have, in effect, been bought out by another owner. What penalty from the RFL does that mean we should get?
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"When did we go into administration?
We have, in effect, been bought out by another owner. What penalty from the RFL does that mean we should get?'" So if not in dire straits, then they should keep superleague in bridgend and that is unfair on celtic.My opinion it another area wrexham, and is close to widnes.It stinks.
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| where next after this Crusaders ?
mid wales, anglesey, chester, ??????????????
WHAT A JOKE OUR SPORT IS
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| Think this club needs help, blame the rfl
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Think this club needs help, blame the rfl'"
For ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"
For ?'"
For going ahead with this idiotic scheme in the first place, everyone knew this was doomed before the last season started except it would seem the rfl.
For making our game look like an amateurish shambles yet again.
For continuing with their double standards.
For ignoring the wishes of the majority.
Could go on and on and on..............
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| Quote ="bongs tony"For going ahead with this idiotic scheme in the first place, everyone knew this was doomed before the last season started except it would seem the rfl.
For making our game look like an amateurish shambles yet again.
For continuing with their double standards.
For ignoring the wishes of the majority.
Could go on and on and on..............'"
, I just wanted to hear it
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| Quote ="Soldierboy"I agree my team widnes will never get into superleague with the
rfl in charge.I feel we are wasting our money when our youth will get picked up by a superleague club.This is so unfair on all championship clubs.I like the game to spread but not to the detremental of the heartland clubs.Widnes,doncaster etc never get help if go into adminstration, we got a 9 point penalty deduction.No offence to celtic but i believe sport should be all on equal terms.
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Boo freaking hoo
Widnes will be in come 2012, in the mean time go and rob some dustcaps or something
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| dear oh dear.
You diatribe says more about yourself than anyone else on here.
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| The move to Wrexham is typical of big business arrogance. "We can make it work because we are businessmen and can make things happen." That was the Leighton Samuels mindset, until he got bored. Most people who know rugby league, ie, those who actually follow the game, don't reckon it has got a cat in hells chance of working in Wrexham. Ultimately, those who know rugby league will be proved right.
But let's stop waffling about teams like Doncaster not getting into Super League. The Doncaster public has never shown an appetite for rugby league at the levels required to maintain a Super League team, through franchising or otherwise. Widnes have, and Halifax have. Featherstone have (although I don't think a small mining town fits the RFL's mould these days).
Good luck Wrexham. I would rather it succeeded than failed, but I won't learn the route, because I don't think I'll need to go there more than once.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"
But let's stop waffling about teams like Doncaster not getting into Super League. The Doncaster public has never shown an appetite for rugby league at the levels required to maintain a Super League team, through franchising or otherwise. Widnes have, and Halifax have. Featherstone have (although I don't think a small mining town fits the RFL's mould these days).
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Fev ceased being a mining town in 1983 when Acton Hall Colliery closed! Fev, whilst being called "Featherstone Rovers and associated with being a mining town has always pulled in Fans from Pontefract, Knottingley - even as far as Goole and that mighty republic that is Rawmash, Rotherham! So it's catchment area is quite big.
Tho, it I have to agree, we probably still won't sit well with the RL's portfolio!
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The move to Wrexham is typical of big business arrogance. =#FF0000"We can make it work because we are businessmen and can make things happen." That was the Leighton Samuels mindset, until he got bored. Most people who know rugby league, ie, those who actually follow the game, don't reckon it has got a cat in hells chance of working in Wrexham. Ultimately, those who know rugby league will be proved right.
But let's stop waffling about teams like Doncaster not getting into Super League. The Doncaster public has never shown an appetite for rugby league at the levels required to maintain a Super League team, through franchising or otherwise. Widnes have, and Halifax have. Featherstone have (although I don't think a small mining town fits the RFL's mould these days).
Good luck Wrexham. I would rather it succeeded than failed, but I won't learn the route, because I don't think I'll need to go there more than once.'"
Heard all too often on these boards as well slugger , just because somebody has made a few million in one particular field of business does not mean they will have a clue how to manage a business designed to lose money to be a success
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| Quote ="Starbug"Heard all too often on these boards as well slugger , just because somebody has made a few million in one particular field of business does not mean they will have a clue how to manage a business designed to lose money to be a success'"
It's even worse than that, because the buy-out is meant to save the football club, and so the end will come even sooner than if it had been a long-term plan to get rugby league going in Wrexham. As soon as they see it isn't benefiting the football club, that's the end of the Crusaders.
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