Its a dream which will never succeed...... you'll allways import players and never have a competive homegrown squad, youll never get a big fan base becuase no1 in Wales supports rugby league, you'll allways make super league a level lower becuase you will be in it, being the whippin boys for most teams.....

I think you should do the honest thing and hang your boots up, and let a PROPER TRADITIONAL team take your place in super league...

Do you guys think your an artificial, fake, manufactured, rugby union fanned team? Do you agree you make super league a lower competive league?

Yeah, I would say that's a fair post and I think everyone will probably agree and give up following the game. I'll ring Richard Lewis in the morning and tell him to give the Crusaders' Super League place to Widnes, and we'll stop bothering traditional fans and clubs. See you.

If that means we don't have to listen to whining prats like you then it might be worth it. Rugby League: a local game for local people.

One way to make yourself look a right T!T i suppose

"Tit" "Prat" lol....... I'm only saying what everyone thinks....... Your the worst idea imaginable, itll never work..... I hope people start to realise that Crusaders are a cancer in our Rugby League game and hopefully will demote them and let a proper team enter the super league....... Lets face it, you've got nothing to offer

Hope you prove me wrong though this year

A cancer? Jeez you're a classy bloke. Why demotion if we are so terrible for the game? Surely the Welsh should be banned altogether. Back to your local shop Tubbs, there is nothing here for you.

YOU HORRIBLE, SICK, NASTY PERSON. To use Cancer as analogy is disgusting.

You are the lowest of the low. PI** OFF.

Lol no I'm not..... I think you lot should be playing in NL2 or something, not in Super League.......

Lowest of the low hahahaha...... Or rite then...... Do you lot not agree you offer nothing to Rugby League only imports and bad crowds.... worst decision in Rugby League to let lot in, hope you don't get a license next time....

Think the Rugby League board need sacking for allowing you in, theres better teams, your just a fantisied manufactured team

What is done is done, good luck.......

You're not saying what I think.

I think that RL needs to look to new territories, and where better then Wales, where they love their rugby? Crowd levels for internationals in the 1990s proves that either code is acceptable to most, so long as it's good to watch and competitive, which I'm sure, given chance, Crusaders can be.

I for one hope that Crusaders have a good season - irrespective of where their games are, so they can prove all the flatcappers totally wrong, and probably p155 on a few chips in the process.

If wales has nothing to offer RL why did some many welsh players end up going north
And to use a word like cancer is a disgrace if only you know what its like to have it!!!

what like your team should be ? and crowds, dont make me laugh

Mookachaka ia a Leigh fan btw

Nah he's a mutant

Leigh is full of leythers....... Mort, Higson, Maden, Ridyard, Hartley, Bibey, Hill, Taylor ect...

We would pull better crowds than you in Super League, a Wigan and Leigh darby would be a full house for a start

Both Pies I'm afraid M

Apart from in 2005 when it wasn't, you got absolutely hammered every week, almost went bust and ended up getting relegated twice.

Hill has come through our scholoship and academy and is a Leigh Bread player........ We only got battered every week becyase we had 6 weeks to make a squad..... If we had three years like you we'd be in the top 6 without a question of a doubt! Just like Hull KR or Huddersfeild

Here is a comment posted by @Birchy' on our Totalrl.com forum.

[i:1l4oyr1y[size=150:1l4oyr1y"[/size:1l4oyr1yAt the start, I really did want crusaders to survive you know I really did, but i got thinking...imagine this (self indulgent) scenario...a parallel universe, where we have people in charge of the RFl who listen to the people, and who have patience and vision, rather than short term quick fix solutions.... and this was the scenario...

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A new team arrive in C2 - Celtic crusaders. A small fan base to start with, but with a bit of strategic publicity and a discount on entry fees provided by the RFL in a 3 year club startup deal (which did not involve the inclusion of ANY overseas players, but a grant to provide RL facilities for the club to start a U21's/academy side to encourage and develop local talent) the club develops a decent size fanbase over a period of 5 years. Some rugby union supporters and player converts to the code, and they develop about 500 season ticket holders.

In another 4 years, after a few attempts, they win promotion to C1, and now have a fanbase of about 800 Season ticket holders. fans from other clubs are now used to this club, and look forward to the banter provided by enthusiastic welsh fans. They are relegated the same year after a heroic relegation scrap with Batley.

In two years they return to C1 and finish mid table. Fanbase grows to an average of 1000 fans, and they slowly progress and do well. They become an established an well respected side, and when they finally earn inclusion into superleague 3 years later, every fan from other clubs wishes them well, because they have existed for 14 years, and EARNED the respect of other fans and clubs through blood, grit, and welsh determination. They now have a solid academy side and structure, and the long established financial structure and experience to be self sufficient and develop Welsh talent. 10 years later, Wales shock England with a surprise win in a world cup play off welsh coach Harris described as 'elated'

All this because the RFL were patient and had the vision to realise that the club had to establish itself for other fans to take it seriously. I honestly believe every other fan want new clubs to do well and expand, as long as it is a fair system, but now this mickey mouse gypsy team has lost its credibility. I feel for their fans i do, as they have to travel all over the country to support their team, and they deserve better.

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Most think I'm againsy any kind of expansion. The above is what I believe to be the best way. However, the above also doesn't count for the "I want it, I want it now or I'm not playing" from LS or from the RFL accept his hurriedness in the search of short term unsustainable growth!!!
However, once the RFL decided to go for S.Wales, they should stay there. That's where the fan base is, however few of you. To go to Wrexham makes little sense whatsoever.
I can't see a future for the SL club under these circumstances and as the proposed S Wales club is not independent from the parent club, you have to fear for RL in Wales.
The RL got it spectacularly wrong. LS was/is impatient. The games management is in disaray!

Congratulations with less than three weeks left in the year and despite some strong competition you've won the spouting complete and utter crap post of the year.

Well done and the trophy on it's way to you in the post, if you didn't live in a cave you could have put it on the mantlepiece. Now toddle off back to your cave and keep exercising your right arm.

No you're not.

obviously one of leigh's failed medical experiments

Its always funny when you see somebody posting something and you know who that person is

The RFL are very supportive of Rugby League in Wales. And however 'comical/pathetic' it may seem to others, we are stuck with it, for now. Personally i don't know why they bother with Wales/London/Gateshead, but they do. So 'winding' the actual fans up on a message board, does no good whatsoever (i know i've tried).
Or maybe my posts just weren't "bitch/funny" enough !!!

You're in dreamland. In your sole season in Super League, did we ever see a Wigan/Leigh game that was sold out?

Crusaders achieved one thing you never did. They beat us.

Yeah let Leigh in Super League and be the whipping boys as usual...Go back to your Wigan shadow and carry on being bitter that your probably never end up in Super League....