Now that things have finally been confirmed - news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 413910.stm - I think it's time to forget the negativity and look to the future. I work and study in Wrexham and I'm delighted that the town now has a Super League club to support. I've maintained for some time that there is a huge passion for RL in North Wales and I'm looking forward to getting behind Brian and the team.

Now that things have finally been confirmed - news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 413910.stm - I think it's time to forget the negativity and look to the future. I work and study in Wrexham and I'm delighted that the town now has a Super League club to support. I've maintained for some time that there is a huge passion for RL in North Wales and I'm looking forward to getting behind Brian and the team.

Quote ="Gladiators"Now that things have finally been confirmed - news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 413910.stm - I think it's time to forget the negativity and look to the future. I work and study in Wrexham and I'm delighted that the town now has a Super League club to support. I've maintained for some time that there is a huge passion for RL in North Wales and I'm looking forward to getting behind Brian and the team.'" well said, hope it works out up there...

Quote ="Gladiators"Now that things have finally been confirmed - news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 413910.stm - I think it's time to forget the negativity and look to the future. I work and study in Wrexham and I'm delighted that the town now has a Super League club to support. I've maintained for some time that there is a huge passion for RL in North Wales and I'm looking forward to getting behind Brian and the team.'" well said, hope it works out up there...

forget the negativity? Are you real?
Not only have you still got embittered old flatcappers like myself who've been sceptical about the "welsh project" from the off. The rfl have hacked off the very people the welsh club was introduced for e.g. New fans from south wales brought to the game!
Instead we now have a hybrid club, that in all likelihood won't have the home following of the club in bridgend but hey ho, "let's cash in on a projected increased away support! Wrexham has littl to offer rugby league developmentally and it's location is an affront to those who have supported it since it's inception!
Renounce Negativity? You'll be believing in father christmas next!

My word you ex Colliers are very stubborn and bitter men.

Give Wrexham a chance before spouting like that.

Its new money into the game, a wealthy Chairman and an excellent Stadium.


S Wales may yet succeed in their quest with an all Welsh Outfit but if you feel that furthering this great game of ours is to replace Crusaders with Fev then God help us.

Yes I am bitter. Exclusion from SL has left me that way. As I suspect the majority of Salford/Wakey fans will be when/if they don't get a licence next time. It leaves you that way!!

Give Wreham a chance???? Like Bridgend had the chance you mean??? And that left the majority of their fans feeling embittered too. I perhaps now have something in common with S Welsh RL fans!!



Where have i said that??? Don't misrepresent my words. All have have ever wanted is an equal and fair chance for my club to succeed at the highest level! If it never happens on a level playing field, c'est la vie. But as said on another thread, we did actually win the thing once!!

Well lost for words to be honest.All i can say this is all a farce and a big joke.Wrexham is a football area and poor celtic fans wont travel 3 and half hours away.I would not travel that far for a home game.Noble makes me laugh they same as usual as he got a job.

Goodluck just feel sorry for celtic fans in south wales.

I really feel for the fans left behind in Bridgend.

Yes the facilities are there in Wrexham, but it wont take off the locals only care about football.

If the football club ever became successful again & got the crowds in they'd push the crusaders out.

I cant believe S.L have agreed to it....shame on them

Well, I know at least two people who will be going along to watch the Crusaders in Wrexham and that's my cousin and his wife who live in Llangollen. They're well pleased that Superleague is coming to North Wales as they have had to rely upon their local pub to watch matches (there's quite a following in the local pub apparently, and many have said to my cousin that they are going to be watching the Crusaders next season).

North Wales may well be interested in soccer but there are also a lot of ex-pat Northern English living there as well as many Welsh people who, according to my cousin anyway, have enjoyed watching Sky matches. So I don't think it is necessarily a dead end. It could take off.

I hope both clubs take off. That would be excellent. It suits Nobby that he's getting a great big batch of Aussies to play for him since he likes to import no matter which team he is coaching. Hopefully what he says about developing local talent isn't all media orientated hot air and he will put his back into that side of things like John Dixon clearly did in south Wales.

Remembering the way the Welsh played for their home country in the European Cup, I'd say that if those same guys played for the South Wales team then they should have little problem competing at Championship 1 level. I'm keeping fingers crossed that all the work done in South Wales will really start to bear fruit now that young players have potentially two options open to them so far as playing Rugby League is concerned. Assuming the Crusaders survive (obviously), then a good pathway has opened up to aspiring RL players in Wales. That's great IMO and well worthy of support from the rest of the RL community.

Great stuff. The 1995 Rugby League World Cup and successful cross-code transfers around the same time made quite an impression on people living in North Wales. While there may not be 1000s of active Super League fans, there are lots of people with a passing interest who may now be tempted to follow their new, local club.

Just give them a chance. Who knows what will happen. I do feel sorry for those supporters in south wales who have supported them from the 1st game, its like thanks for your support, but goodbye.

Imagin if a football club just moved to another town, hang on there was. Wimbledon, now MK Dons.

errr, the RFL have just given a Welsh club the opportunity to waste resources and 3 years on "a chance"! How many chances do we offer. What next??




and there's the rub I believe. There doesn't appear to be any meaningful market research for selling the RL product in Wrexham. AN untried RL area that has an established footy club. Apart from the odd one or two fans who will attend and some out of 'curiosity', this hurridly organised venture, spurred as much by LS desire to get shut of the Crusaders ASAP than any developmental reason, appears to be pinning it's hope on an increased away support to function!! There does not appear to be any other firm business planning at the mo other than someone with a few bob prepared to underwrite the coming season, and the welsh/rfl have been there before. Madness. Shear bloody madness.
Woods and Lewis would struggle to manage a fish and chip shop.
Leighton Samuels does not come out of this sordid affair with any shred of credibility.
The current arrangement for the club has 'sold out' the south welsh fans and made another mockery of the game - tho to be fair, making a mockery out of twit and tw@ is not difficult!

Will there be a Wrexham ARL development team in the Merit league 2010 & maybe even one from Deeside?

Too early to say as obviously they will need a team of people prepared to put the hours in. I think Wrexham and Deeside may be a bit over ambitous.

in which case you have to say "what's the point"???

A situation made even worse by the strides made in S Wales with their junior set-up! I can see that falling off big time now!

The newly formed South Wales club are set to continue their excellent work with juniors in the region.

I'm trying to be realistic - hey, we could always go down the preferred route of forming Wrexham Raiders and Deeside Dragons straight away, enter them in the RLC and then moan when they don't fulfill any fixtures. That'll keep the flatcappers busy.

I know the level of work and processes needed to start a successful, long-lasting amateur club and it's not easy. I hope somebody wants to step up and form an open-age club in Wrexham and I'll help them out but it might not happen overnight.

Junior development in the area is something, I am sure, the "new" Crusaders are well aware of and will pursue.

Hopefully Crusaders will be able to give Gerald at Bangor University RL a lift in his efforts to develop RL in North Wales. Its thanks to Gerald etc at Bangor that Tallaght RL survived to see 2010. A strong RL presence in North Wales can really help RL in the Republic.

Looking forward to them coming. I'll obviously be watching he Warrington game but I wil be attending other games also i.e Saints, Leeds and Wigan,

Im with Rotherham Fev Fan. The idea of Celtic was to spread the game in the south of Wales. Doing so alienated most of the rugby league heartlands when it was clear to most that the club would go the way every other team in the south of wales would go!

The move to north wales does 2 things keeps alive the team in wales claim and ensures attendances will be boosted due to away followings! Its a typical RFL farce and if they get another franchise then teams like Fax, Leigh, Widnes, Fev, Barrow etc might as well pack up!!

I never went to Bridgend in principle! I may not bother with Wrexham either!!

I agree my team widnes will never get into superleague with the

rfl in charge.I feel we are wasting our money when our youth will get picked up by a superleague club.This is so unfair on all championship clubs.I like the game to spread but not to the detremental of the heartland clubs.Widnes,doncaster etc never get help if go into adminstration, we got a 9 point penalty deduction.No offence to celtic but i believe sport should be all on equal terms.

RFL

Agreed the whole thing is a farce the idea of a welsh club in SL was expansion, how far is Wrexham from Widnes or St Helens 20 - 30 miles? How much more of this lunacy do we have to put up with? I whole heartedly support expanding the game but clubs need to start at the bottom develop a fan base and and introduce rl into the community to extract the best of the local talent, if this takes 10/15 years thats what it takes.
I do not wish it but I fully expect this to fail within 2 years, it doesnt matter how much money is thrown at it, I see Noble has already started with his excuses today. The rfl was looking for expansion what it has got is division and ridicule.

When did we go into administration?

We have, in effect, been bought out by another owner. What penalty from the RFL does that mean we should get?

So if not in dire straits, then they should keep superleague in bridgend and that is unfair on celtic.My opinion it another area wrexham, and is close to widnes.It stinks.

where next after this Crusaders ?
mid wales, anglesey, chester, ??????????????

WHAT A JOKE OUR SPORT IS

Think this club needs help, blame the rfl