I didn't think it was MG I was just interested to see what your thoughts were and I totally agree with you. In fact everyone I spoke to holds the same view.
I heard that Folly Lane asked not to be promoted so in that case why couldn't West Bank take their place in the premier division. Not sure why a team would play all season to win their league then not want to step up

I think WB are returning at the level they left at so I think that's probably right. Each division is 10 teams so maybe the league wanted it that way rather than have 2 divisions with odd numbers & one teams from each not playing each week. The email says the structure is proposed so isn't yet fixed, if you haven't already done so maybe Hindpool can appeal?

Good to see the likes of Cadishead, Newton, Leyland & Eccleston return. It'll be interesting to see how Garswood Stags get on as well, they've set up about a mile from us. Didn't know anything about them until the leagues were sent out.

I have already appealed it just gotta wait till the new year to see what comes of it.

It should really be defined and stuck to the relegation/promotion 2 up 2 down then everyone knows where they stand. I think the league is still trying to find it's natural order since moving to summer hence allowing team in some circumstances move up or down.

I think there will be to many free weeks with only 10 teams but my understanding is that this could change to 12 following the management meeting last night.

The final structures along with fixtures should be out by next Friday so we shall soon know!!

Seems an easy way to get West Bank in premier and Hindpool in division 1 whilst not having to punish anyone else to do it? Plus wonder if the all but collapse of the winter league has seen some late applications?

New proposal is 4 leagues of 12 and an entry league which currently has 15 teams listed

West bank are in the prem this season we received a email this morning

The new structure looks a lot better, at least from ours and West Banks perspective

Are you sure it's 4 and not 5 leagues of 12? As means 12 clubs have dropped out of draft lineups (possible I guess)

Yes he meant 5 (Prem, 1-4) of 12 teams in each and an entry division as well made up of 15. 75 teams in total

Well spotted. I don't usually wake up till Wednesday

Premier
Ashton Bears
Bank Quay Bulls
Clock Face Miners
Folly Lane
Halton Farnworth Hornets
Halton Simms Cross
Haresfinch
Haydock
Shevington Sharks
Ulverston
West Bank Bears
Widnes st maries vikings

Division 1
Bamber Bridge
Bold Miners
Chorley Panthers
Culcheth Eagles
Heysham Atoms
Hindpool Tigers
Irlam Hornets
Leigh East A
Thatto Heath Crusaders A
Portico Vine
Wigan Spring View
Wigan St Judes A

Division 2
Blackbrook A
Latchford Albion
Leigh Miners Rangers A
Oldham St Annes A
Orrell St James
Pilkington Recs A
Rochdale Mayfield A
Rylands Sharks
St Helens Wild Boars
Widnes West Bank A
Wigan St Patricks A
Woolston Rovers A

Division 3
Accrington Panthers
Ashton Bears A
Bolton Mets
Burtonwood Bridge
Bury Broncos
Chester Gladiators
Fitton Hill
Langworthy Reds
Little Hulton Reds
Westhoughton Lions
Widnes Tigers
Wigan Bulldogs

Division 4
Blackpool Scorpions
Cadishead Rhinos
Crosfields A
East Manchester Rangers
Ecceston Lions
Leyland Warriors
Mancunians
New Springs Lions
Rochdale Cobras
Rylands Sharks A
Saddleworth Rangers A
Widnes St Maries Vikings A

Not sure about Entry

Entry is
Blackpool Sea Eagles
Blackpool Stanley
Burnley & Pendle
Eccles A
Folly Lane A
Garswood Stags
Hindley A
Ince Rose Bridge A
Liverpool Lions
Waterhead A
West Craven Warriors
Wigan St Cuthberts A
Whitworth Spartans
Bury Broncos A
Bamber Bridge A

Final league structure just released to clubs. Few small changes

Portico drop to division 2, swapping with Wild Boars being the one which affect my club. Couple of others further down the leagues and 18 in the merit league

In NWML 3, Accrington have disappeared, Chester down to 4, with Pilks A and Saddleworth A in.

Saddleworth A gave 7 of their last 10 games in div 3 away last season.
Pilks A also gave 7 of their last 10 games away in div 2.

Poor decision by NWML IMO.

Accrington are in 2 now apparently.

Premier
Ashton Bears
Bank Quay Bulls
Clock Face Miners
Folly Lane
Halton Farnworth Hornets
Halton Simms Cross
Haresfinch
Haydock
Shevington Sharks
Ulverston
West Bank Bears
Widnes st maries vikings

Division 1
Bamber Bridge
Bold Miners
Chorley Panthers
Culcheth Eagles
Heysham Atoms
Hindpool Tigers
Irlam Hornets
Leigh East A
St Helens Wild Boars
Thatto Heath Crusaders A
Wigan Spring View
Wigan St Judes A

Division 2
Accrington Panthers
Blackbrook A
Latchford Albion
Leigh Miners Rangers A
Oldham St Annes A
Orrell St James
Portico Vine
Rochdale Mayfield A
Rylands Sharks
Widnes West Bank A
Wigan St Patricks A
Woolston Rovers A

Division 3
Ashton Bears A
Bolton Mets
Burtonwood Bridge
Bury Broncos
Fitton Hill
Langworthy Reds
Little Hulton Reds
Pilkington Recs A
Saddleworth Rangers A
Westhoughton Lions
Widnes Tigers
Wigan Bulldogs

Division 4
Blackpool Scorpions
Cadishead Rhinos
Chester Gladiators
Crosfields A
East Manchester Rangers
Ecceston Lions
Leyland Warriors
Mancunians
New Springs Lions
Rochdale Cobras
Rylands Sharks A
Widnes St Maries Vikings A

Again not sure about Entry

Entry league now Haresfinch A, Burtonwood A and Higginshaw added to what's listed above

Having seen the leagues im wondering what is the point in finishing in the top 2 teams can pick and choose what league they want to go in, 4 have gone up from our league last year and irlam have come straight into div 1, teams work hard to get to where they are and you can just go where you want . div 1 looks a very strong league this year

How come Saddleworth Rangers A are in division 1?

Looks like Culcheth Eagles are bumped down to division 2 and Orrell St James to division 3 as well

OSJ were originally in division 2 when the leagues 1st got published so can only assume they asked to be dropped back into division 3.

Believe the Irlam vs Wild Boars game was abandoned on about 50 mins with Boars leading 12-4? Both teams saying a very aggressive game but no need to abandon it, but seems the ref saw it differently.

Thats correct mate, game was abandoned on 54 mins with us leading 12-4. The reason as to why it was abandoned, well pass. It was obvious that the ref didnt want to be there, he made that clear too. There was 3 sin binngs in the game, 1 was was being offside, another 2 holding down (After both teams recieved "Team Warnings" for similiar offences)

A few high tackles and hadbags/crossed words was as bad as it got. After a penatly was given around the 50min he called both teams together and the ref said the next time there is another incident he will call the game off after telling us this is the worst standard of rugby he has ever reffed. Both sets of lads was baffled by it, laughing between ourselves saying its only banter its ametuer rugby league it happens.

Few mins later after a push after the play the ball he blew up and walked off! few players went to approach him to try get him to carry on but it was clear he was off and was in the changing rooms by the time players shaked hands.

Anyway he made his mind up, and even though it was a very aggresive game none of that spilled to punches thrown and was pleased that even when he ended the game the ref was showed respect, and that was the same throughout the game obviously you get the generic "how's that a knock-on" etc. but that was as far as it went. If we go off that game on Sat 60% of games would be called off.

The ref came into both sets of changing rooms after game, there was banter thrown about him walking off and we all laughed it off and he was happy to inform us he should of been reffing York instead of being stuck with us anyway.

I take it the game will be replayed now, or will they make the return fixture a 4 pointer? anyone have any ideas what will happen.

Surprised by that. We have had that ref in the past and he has been 1st class. There has to be a female to blame

Did something happen at Haydock this weekend, as I believe there was an ambulance and air ambulance called in for an injury?